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Old 09-27-2012, 09:42 PM   #1
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Methane a rising danger in global warming

http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120913/OPINION/120919685/1074
The GWP of methane gas combined with the rapid warming of the Arctic give rise to a potentially disastrous positive feedback loop. As the Arctic's permafrost regions warm, methane gas is released. Methane's high GWP assures that the Earth will warm even more rapidly as the gas enters our atmosphere. This increased warming will result in methane being released even more rapidly, thereby establishing a snowballing feedback cycle leading to increasingly rapid climate change. Research documents that 48 million tons of methane are entering our atmosphere from eastern Siberian permafrost alone each year. That amount is sure to grow.
there are a few feedback loops in climate change that I deem critical to the future of this phenomenon and will be watching closely

Arctic ice melt is one of these

another is this methane stuff (which is also in many ways an Arctic phenomenon)
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:14 AM   #2
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Kill all cows. The domestication of cows is the worst ecological thing to happen to the earth.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:03 AM   #3
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but

they taste good

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they cause planetary lulz
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:31 AM   #4
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Kill all cows
Or house them and capture the methane.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:24 AM   #5
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or kill the methanogenic flora in their guts
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #6
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or put balloons on their butts
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:22 PM   #7
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didnt' they invent some bacteria free pigs somewhere (for xenotransplants)

they could do that with cows maybe.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:57 PM   #8
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how the fuck would bacteria free pigs work
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:38 PM   #9
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might have been virus free.

the point was to ensure they were disease free to so their pancreas or something could be used in type 1 diabetics.

so i'm suggesting maybe we can do the same thing with cows re methane making bacteria.

It's probably not feasible to feed the planet with those special cows, though.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:42 PM   #10
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oh so probably one surgically removed from the mother then raised in a sterile environment for a few months

i doubt that would be feasible for meat at all, i don't think you could develop an animal very much with an absolute minimisation of pathogenic risk
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:44 PM   #11
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it's funny i remember someone talking about thermokarsts on here like 3-4 years ago, maybe it was guitarded chuck or someone
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:47 PM   #12
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oh so probably one surgically removed from the mother then raised in a sterile environment for a few months
I think they were kept wholly separate (on a different island and everything). I dunno how they actually managed to produce them.

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i doubt that would be feasible for meat at all, i don't think you could develop an animal very much with an absolute minimisation of pathogenic risk
Well, you presumably you can create those animals.

but it's doubtful you could raise them in a way that's economically viable for widespread consumption.
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it would be more sensible to just raise normal cows in an environment where you don't waste the methane
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like, in a barn?

i doubt that'd be viable in countries like NZ, Aus or Argentina.
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it wouldn't be as simple as a barn, but yeah
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New Zealand has herds of 300 head plus, and feeds them on grass.

Converting them into high intensity (presumably grain-fed) indoor herds would be very difficult and probably environmentally destructive in its own right.
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when compared to what you're saying though
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more feasible than that.

still not very feasible.
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I get it smokey d i'm not getting around the caps filter for you
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didnt' they invent some bacteria free pigs somewhere (for xenotransplants)

they could do that with cows maybe.
Nah that was Alien 3
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also, new zealand
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unlikely to have huge impact in the scheme of things
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esp. because permafrost and clathrate release doesn't fall under this scope
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