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Old 09-28-2010, 10:02 AM   #31
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It doesn't need to make sense to you. It's effective in keeping the list section primarily focused on music and that's all I'm really concerned with.
Only you just said that you're fine with music being in the list and going undiscussed in the comments, which can be 100+ posts of something else entirely. I wouldn't call that 'primarily focused on music'.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:19 AM   #32
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jesus are you a fucking idiot? the review site is not a forum for general discussion. sputnikmusic is a music review web site akin to p4k but has integrated user based reviews and discussion along with other user features, e.g. lists. which is why people grow to love it. just because a lot of discussion breaks down into lame pokemon and wrestling stuff doesn't mean this is what the site is for and that you have some ingrained right to do so. the forums side is for general discussion. i dont understand why this wont sink in through your thick skull.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:17 PM   #34
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:22 PM   #35
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You have no answer for what I said, so just throw up 'SPUTNIKMUSIC'. Very typical moderation.

That 'quip' is irrelevant, since the whole idea of the list getting deleted because it doesn't feature music as it's central premise is pure BS, for reasons I've already said. I'm guessing that you know that though, otherwise you'd actually bother refuting what I said, instead of just going 'BECUZ I SED SO' like your average smug mod with no life and a happy trigger finger.
Not really, I think we've had a pretty decent discussion and three mods have explain our position to you and why it is so.

1) This is a music website. We would like to keep reviews/review comments, and list/list comments, related to music.
2) We understand that a small group of sputnikmusic users have a deep-seeded of using forums designed specifically for the purpose of community interaction which extends beyond music.
3) For the above reason, we range from tolerant to invisible in regards to list moderation. All we ask in return is that [general you] adopt the pretense of keeping it about music.
4) If these policies are not to your liking open, constructive debate on the topic is appreciated and taken into account. Such is the case, your evident distaste for our current system has been duly noted. Cheers and go Celtics.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:02 PM   #36
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jesus are you a fucking idiot? the review site is not a forum for general discussion. sputnikmusic is a music review web site akin to p4k but has integrated user based reviews and discussion along with other user features, e.g. lists. which is why people grow to love it. just because a lot of discussion breaks down into lame pokemon and wrestling stuff doesn't mean this is what the site is for and that you have some ingrained right to do so. the forums side is for general discussion. i dont understand why this wont sink in through your thick skull.
Who are you again?

I love how this has turned into 'Jesuslaves is selfish and wants people to cater to his individual interests'. I'm just calling out what is either pure bullshit or just hypocrisy, depending on what's actually going on here. I still think that pigeonholing off topic discussion amongst a fairly close knit community is crap, but maybe that's why I'm not a moderator. I'm definitely not the only one with this opinion either.

I have no fear of the forums. I'd gladly jump in if things were better integrated. Best of luck with that, eager to see what you have in mind. I just don't like integrating myself into a brand new community on the snap of a finger to talk about something that was denied in the review site, when the opinions of the people I'd be porting the discussion over to I could give a shit about.

But we don't agree and my POV isn't going to change anything. Moving on.

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Old 09-28-2010, 05:16 PM   #37
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:18 PM   #38
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Who are you again?

I love how this has turned into 'Jesuslaves is selfish and wants people to cater to his individual interests'. I'm just calling out what is either pure bullshit or just hypocrisy, depending on what's actually going on here. I still think that pigeonholing off topic discussion amongst a fairly close knit community is crap, but maybe that's why I'm not a moderator. I'm definitely not the only one with this opinion either.

I have no fear of the forums. I'd gladly jump in if things were better integrated. Best of luck with that, eager to see what you have in mind. I just don't like integrating myself into a brand new community on the snap of a finger to talk about something that was denied in the review site, when the opinions of the people I'd be porting the discussion over to I could give a shit about.

But we don't agree and my POV isn't going to change anything. Moving on.
do you miss the point[s] on purpose?
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:28 PM   #39
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:33 PM   #40
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Jesuslaves, the forums have been functioning far longer than the review site. Furthermore, as someone who is active on both sides of the site, the integration is fine. Your choice to blatantly ignore the rules and engage in off-topic chatter where it is not permitted is your doing, not ours. If you just want to discuss these things, why does it matter if it's a 'new' community? If it's the people you want to talk to, why does it have to be on the review site? Your own laziness isn't going to dictate rule changes.

Furthermore, bleepbloopbeep has a point, regardless of whether or not you recognize his name.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:35 PM   #41
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Jesuslaves, the forums have been functioning far longer than the review site. Furthermore, as someone who is active on both sides of the site, the integration is fine. Your choice to blatantly ignore the rules and engage in off-topic chatter where it is not permitted is your doing, not ours. If you just want to discuss these things, why does it matter if it's a 'new' community? If it's the people you want to talk to, why does it have to be on the review site? Your own laziness isn't going to dictate rule changes.
Have you read a damn thing in this thread?
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:36 PM   #42
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who are you?
this is irrelevant,,

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Have you read a damn thing in this thread?
IRONY.

are you purposely missing the point or are you unintentionally really fucking stupid?
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:37 PM   #43
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this is irrelevant,,
No, but I am slightly amused by someone I've never seen on either site before giving me shit about my opinions of the place.

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IRONY.

are you purposely missing the point or are you unintentionally really fucking stupid?
Seriously, look at this cunt. I resolve things and admit that we just disagree in the post you originally quoted, and you still come with guns blazing like a total dickweed.

Squeeze the log out of your ass.

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Old 09-28-2010, 06:18 PM   #44
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edit: hey! Look! Our friendly neighbourhood staff member Cocaine posts in there! You've made a friend already!
i think they will actually become friends they're both such nice guys
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:11 PM   #45
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Jesuslaves, dude.

You post a list that's not about music, and is about NBA instead. I post a list that's not about music, and is about the world pool championships instead. Someone else posts a list that's not about music, and is about the new series of House instead. People coming onto the site for the first time think that's standard; post lists about museums they like, matches they watched that evening, relationship advice. In a few months' time, the lists section is almost 50% not about music. On a music website. I have to dig through the lists to get to one about music.

In short, this is why a basic level of moderation is needed, because there are things that you care about, and things that I care about, and things that other people care about, but the one thing that everybody cares about is music, and so preserving that as at least the main topic of conversation is sort of a big deal.
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:31 PM   #46
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It's an imaginative use of the list feature, so it's valid, but thanks for reporting.

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Old 09-28-2010, 08:00 PM   #47
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got it all I think - thanks

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Old 09-28-2010, 08:22 PM   #49
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:38 PM   #50
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:36 PM   #52
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:18 AM   #55
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May I inquire as to why my ratings were deleted? I didn't troll rate anything and I didn't rate anything that wasn't released yet, so I'm relatively upset that my 911 ratings are down the toilet.
Same problem.

I inquired about a month ago as to why my ratings seemed to have disappeared and got no where. Any chance you guys figured out what happened?

We run a script every couple of months that automatically wipes the ratings of people who troll rate band's catalogues - it must have found something in yours.

* I didn't think I was troll rating. However, I'm assuming what's done is done and there is no way to get them back. Thanks for letting me know what could have happened!

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weird request but if you get the chance could you feature this list: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?listid=56494

i was actually going to post the thing as news but i couldn't really justify it i didn't think

no, sorry

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just a question. a while back the release date rule got changed to as long as an album was legitimately out somewhere in the world that it could be reviewed by the general user base, right?
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