Is Eminem the Most Overrated Rapper Ever?

HolidayKirk · 01-01-2010, 07:56 PM

Wait. Stop for a second, let me clarify. Eminem's first 3 albums were brilliant, featuring incredible songs and narritvies driven along by a passion and motivation hardly seen before in hip-hop. His singles career peaked in 2002 with Lose Yourself, a massive worldwide hit that features Em's best opening verse ever, and one of the greatest rhyme schemes ever featured in rap.

But then, he hits a huge decline, Just Lose It is unbelivably annoying and even though it was a sizable hit during its time, I never hear it anymore, and I'm glad. Encore was an awful album and his follow-up, Relapse, was worse. Seriously, Relapse is a horrible album, filled with accents, murder themes, half baked ideas and some of his worst singles to date (Crack a Bottle, We Made You, 3 A.M.). And for some reason, he still is fawned over like a god, constantly being referred to as "real rap" and the "best rapper alive". I cant figure out why, he hasn't made anything worst listening to in years, he is long past his prime, and his last great album came out in 2002.

So, I guess my question is, does anyone else think Eminem is as washed up as I do?

Skyler · 01-01-2010, 08:01 PM

I never really understood why people liked him in the first place.

hydeyomoney · 01-01-2010, 08:24 PM

Eminem has technicality on his side nowadays, but that's it, it's completely soulless music. Only his first two albums really work, but only Encore and The Re-Up really suck.

HolidayKirk · 01-01-2010, 08:45 PM

I digress, his ability to enunciate worlds rapidly, and his flow is very well honed, but when people go insane over his damn verse on Forever (lame song anyway) it feels undeserved.

hydeyomoney · 01-01-2010, 08:52 PM

Kanye's verse was the best of that, his flow on that song is good, but not worth the insanity of people lol.

somberlain · 01-01-2010, 09:11 PM

"cant figure out why, he hasn't made anything worst listening to in years, he is long past his prime, and his last great album came out in 2002"

When was the last time Rakim put out something good? Yet he is still recognized by most other rappers as the best ever.

Bulldog · 01-01-2010, 09:11 PM

I never liked Eminem. His voice is just too damn terrible for me to like.

hydeyomoney · 01-01-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by somberlain

"cant figure out why, he hasn't made anything worst listening to in years, he is long past his prime, and his last great album came out in 2002"

When was the last time Rakim put out something good? Yet he is still recognized by most other rappers as the best ever.

I agree with this on some levels, but Eric B. & Rakim is so legendary and his debut is pretty good, so it sort of solidifies his history.

HolidayKirk · 01-01-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by somberlain

"cant figure out why, he hasn't made anything worst listening to in years, he is long past his prime, and his last great album came out in 2002"

When was the last time Rakim put out something good? Yet he is still recognized by most other rappers as the best ever.

Right but at least hes not scraping his proverbial barrel, not to mention his new stuff isnt as exalted as Em's awful new music.

somberlain · 01-01-2010, 09:30 PM

yeah Ben but then again Rakim was never the pop icon that Em continues to be

HolidayKirk · 01-01-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by somberlain

yeah Ben but then again Rakim was never the pop icon that Em continues to be

And thank god for that, fame heaps on expectations and pressures. Em's lost the motivation that propelled his first 3 albums. Now hes like a zomby, driven only by expectations.

somberlain · 01-01-2010, 09:52 PM

Em's been going through the motions for a while now. What's his motivation? He's one of the most accomplished artists, he's got plenty of money and he knows that whatever he releases is gonna sell regardless

Bulldog · 01-01-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by somberlain

Em's been going through the motions for a while now. What's his motivation? He's one of the most accomplished artists, he's got plenty of money and he knows that whatever he releases is gonna sell regardless

~~Gattsu347~~ · 01-01-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog

I never liked Eminem. His voice is just too damn terrible for me to like.

says the guy that likes lil wayne!

i kidd i kidd

its basically already been addressed, but EM sucks now because his greatest albums were steeped in Sadness, Hopelessness, depression, White trash-dom, and poverty.

he is now rich beyond his wildest dreams has no real reason to feel sad or depressed, since he has accomplished so much. He isnt white trash anyumore living in a trailer, and he certainly isnt hopeless cause a bag of **** with his name on it will sell millions.

classic mega successful, uninspired artist.

Bulldog · 01-01-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gattsu347

says the guy that likes lil wayne!

i hate lil wayne.

HolidayKirk · 01-01-2010, 10:25 PM

Lil Wayne is the best thing in hip hop right now, sorta, well he was in 08.

"classic mega successful, uninspired artist.", pretty much.

Bulldog · 01-01-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BenThorn

"classic mega successful, uninspired artist.", pretty much.

See, Lil Wayne

~~Gattsu347~~ · 01-01-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog

i hate lil wayne.

o maybe i confused u with someone else my bad.

Bulldog · 01-01-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gattsu347

o maybe i confused u with someone else my bad.

No problem dawgie. But yea, Eminem is terrible

~~Gattsu347~~ · 01-01-2010, 10:40 PM

Correction: his last three albums are terrible.
The slim shady lp basically appealed to the widest audience that exists in america, poor white people. I listen to it probably once a week driving. its hilarious, depressing, and skillful. MM LP was his master work, no need to talk about why. the rest suck. D12 had some zingers too

01-01-2010, 07:56 PM	#1
HolidayKirk HolidayKay Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Naperville, Illinois Posts: 59	Is Eminem the Most Overrated Rapper Ever? Wait. Stop for a second, let me clarify. Eminem's first 3 albums were brilliant, featuring incredible songs and narritvies driven along by a passion and motivation hardly seen before in hip-hop. His singles career peaked in 2002 with Lose Yourself, a massive worldwide hit that features Em's best opening verse ever, and one of the greatest rhyme schemes ever featured in rap. But then, he hits a huge decline, Just Lose It is unbelivably annoying and even though it was a sizable hit during its time, I never hear it anymore, and I'm glad. Encore was an awful album and his follow-up, Relapse, was worse. Seriously, Relapse is a horrible album, filled with accents, murder themes, half baked ideas and some of his worst singles to date (Crack a Bottle, We Made You, 3 A.M.). And for some reason, he still is fawned over like a god, constantly being referred to as "real rap" and the "best rapper alive". I cant figure out why, he hasn't made anything worst listening to in years, he is long past his prime, and his last great album came out in 2002. So, I guess my question is, does anyone else think Eminem is as washed up as I do?

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01-01-2010, 08:01 PM	#2
Skyler Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,362	I never really understood why people liked him in the first place.

01-01-2010, 08:24 PM	#3
hydeyomoney yall my niggas Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 271	Eminem has technicality on his side nowadays, but that's it, it's completely soulless music. Only his first two albums really work, but only Encore and The Re-Up really suck.

01-01-2010, 08:45 PM	#4
HolidayKirk HolidayKay Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Naperville, Illinois Posts: 59	I digress, his ability to enunciate worlds rapidly, and his flow is very well honed, but when people go insane over his damn verse on Forever (lame song anyway) it feels undeserved.

01-01-2010, 08:52 PM	#5
hydeyomoney yall my niggas Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 271	Kanye's verse was the best of that, his flow on that song is good, but not worth the insanity of people lol.

01-01-2010, 09:11 PM	#6
somberlain Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 74	"cant figure out why, he hasn't made anything worst listening to in years, he is long past his prime, and his last great album came out in 2002" When was the last time Rakim put out something good? Yet he is still recognized by most other rappers as the best ever.

01-01-2010, 09:11 PM	#7
Bulldog come steppin on my toes Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: i wish a muthafucka would Posts: 4,110	I never liked Eminem. His voice is just too damn terrible for me to like.

01-01-2010, 09:30 PM	#10
somberlain Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 74	yeah Ben but then again Rakim was never the pop icon that Em continues to be

01-01-2010, 09:52 PM	#12
somberlain Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 74	Em's been going through the motions for a while now. What's his motivation? He's one of the most accomplished artists, he's got plenty of money and he knows that whatever he releases is gonna sell regardless

01-01-2010, 10:25 PM	#16
HolidayKirk HolidayKay Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Naperville, Illinois Posts: 59	Lil Wayne is the best thing in hip hop right now, sorta, well he was in 08. "classic mega successful, uninspired artist.", pretty much.

01-01-2010, 10:40 PM	#20
~~Gattsu347~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,276	Correction: his last three albums are terrible. The slim shady lp basically appealed to the widest audience that exists in america, poor white people. I listen to it probably once a week driving. its hilarious, depressing, and skillful. MM LP was his master work, no need to talk about why. the rest suck. D12 had some zingers too