Industrial/Electronic/Ambient/Neofolk/Power Electronics (& Related Genres) - Page 2

~~Meatplow~~ · 03-30-2009, 09:20 AM

That should have gone through.

Godflesh is difficult for me to listen to often because it's so repetitive, I find it best as walking music or paying full attention on it through headphones cause immersing yourself in the nuances is really the best part of it. Which album did try? Streetcleaner, Pure and Messiah are all good in their own ways.

publicastration · 03-30-2009, 09:31 AM

wtf all noise/industrial/dark ambient is repetitive.

~~Meatplow~~ · 03-30-2009, 09:45 AM

It is but from what i've heard at least Godflesh seems to drag out sections more then most industrial metal groups i've heard, which is not necessarily a bad thing but each album seems to have a uniform sound which doesn't change a hell of a lot throughout. Granted, a lot of noise and dark-ambient artists are guilty of this but regarding some of the more well known industrial metal acts like Ministry, KMFDM and Skinny Puppy etc. there is a fair bit of variation and dynamics in their sound in comparison.

Txus · 03-30-2009, 11:48 AM

Love power electronics/noise, there's a bunch of both on my blog

Anyways, been listening to the lesser known Swans albums and they are so good, Body to Body, Job to Job is one of the most underrated albums ever.

~~Meatplow~~ · 03-30-2009, 11:57 AM

I've only got Filth at the moment, gave it a proper listen the other day it's excellent. Get Body to Body next?

Jaundice · 03-30-2009, 01:19 PM

I was listening to self-titled EP earlier, I've never liked that one all that much though. Filth is a solid listen.

The Godflesh album I tried might have been called Love and Hate In Dub? Not sure about the Love and Hate part, but it was something in dub. I figured I'd start out with remixes.

I find that a large part of the concept of an industrial song is repetitive in nature, which is one of the things which makes creating good industrial challenging. I've been having to listen to more and more lately just to get an idea as to how different artists handle the variations and dynamics to not be redundant.

Metalstyles · 03-30-2009, 02:36 PM

hey guys, good to see a industrial thread in here.
Question, has any of you listened something from the repertoire of Crossbreed or Turmion Kätilöt? If so, I would love to hear your opinon on them. Anyway what are your favourite industrial bands and/or albums?

Jaundice · 03-30-2009, 02:46 PM

Don't care if it's not considered tr00, I gots mad respect for Nine Inch Nails. It's some of the most diverse industrial-related output I've ever heard, in terms of successfully crossing over with pop and rock styles.

Even though they are usually considered kraut/kosmiche, I've got to say Faust's self-titled and So Far, along with Cluster's '71 and II are two of the most important albums in the development of industrial genre

RouteOne · 03-30-2009, 02:50 PM

consumer electronics and nihilist assault group tbh

Metalstyles · 03-30-2009, 02:50 PM

well, haven't heard these Faust albums, are they more like the heavy industrial metal or more like Skinny Puppy style mellow, but fun to listen to industrial?

RouteOne · 03-30-2009, 02:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlSnjs-rl0

Jaundice · 03-30-2009, 02:55 PM

Neither one really, they're from the seventies so it was more so laying the ground work for the genre than easily fitting into a category of it.

I'd describe it as psychedelic rock, with a lot of industrial tape experiments and grooves made from samples and found sounds. There's occasionally free jazz jamming and even the somewhat spaced out pop song here and there.

Metalstyles · 03-30-2009, 02:58 PM

hmm.. interesting

***Tyler*** · 03-30-2009, 03:00 PM

Txus · 03-30-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatplow

I've only got Filth at the moment, gave it a proper listen the other day it's excellent. Get Body to Body next?

Hell yes, but is Filth the only Swans album you have? If so, get PlayThe Great Annihilator and White Light From the Mouth of Infinity first.

Jaundice · 03-30-2009, 03:20 PM

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That should have gone through.

Indeed, much thanks

Angmar · 03-30-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocaine

That looks like a piece of shit.

Jaundice · 03-30-2009, 03:58 PM

K so I got bored and took the liberty of uploading Faust's first album, if anyone's interested in it.

Why Don't You Eat Carrots?
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT204R3NubVd4dnc9PQ
Meadow Meal
http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT204NnlrYUR2Wmc9PQ
Miss Fortune
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT20rUzdsMHl4dnc9PQ

Already brought this up once but I figure since it's the industrial/noise thread I might as well mention it, I've been making electronic songs and just starting to come up with things that are credible. Only a couple people I know have given feedback so it's hard to tell if they have appeal or if it's just a personal thing
http://www.myspace.com/mellowthatyellow
I'd strongly hesitate to call it industrial, they're short instrumentals that take influence from the genre though, mostly poppy melodies and mechanical noises.

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That looks like a piece of ****.

I have one in the garage though, I get confused how to use it.

Angmar · 03-30-2009, 04:06 PM

Looks like it would break easily.

RouteOne · 03-30-2009, 07:04 PM

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4804477/Der_Blutharsch_In_the_Hands_of_the_Master

03-30-2009, 02:36 PM	#27
Metalstyles stylin' hard Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 253	hey guys, good to see a industrial thread in here. Question, has any of you listened something from the repertoire of Crossbreed or Turmion Kätilöt? If so, I would love to hear your opinon on them. Anyway what are your favourite industrial bands and/or albums?
	Digging: Hacride - Back To Where You've Never Been

03-30-2009, 02:50 PM	#30
Metalstyles stylin' hard Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 253	well, haven't heard these Faust albums, are they more like the heavy industrial metal or more like Skinny Puppy style mellow, but fun to listen to industrial?
	Digging: Hacride - Back To Where You've Never Been

03-30-2009, 02:58 PM	#33
Metalstyles stylin' hard Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 253	hmm.. interesting
	Digging: Hacride - Back To Where You've Never Been

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03-30-2009, 09:20 AM	#21
~~Meatplow~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 35,656	That should have gone through. Godflesh is difficult for me to listen to often because it's so repetitive, I find it best as walking music or paying full attention on it through headphones cause immersing yourself in the nuances is really the best part of it. Which album did try? Streetcleaner, Pure and Messiah are all good in their own ways.

03-30-2009, 09:31 AM	#22
publicastration I'm like a mirror Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: I'm nothing till you look at me Posts: 20,231	wtf all noise/industrial/dark ambient is repetitive.

03-30-2009, 09:45 AM	#23
~~Meatplow~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 35,656	It is but from what i've heard at least Godflesh seems to drag out sections more then most industrial metal groups i've heard, which is not necessarily a bad thing but each album seems to have a uniform sound which doesn't change a hell of a lot throughout. Granted, a lot of noise and dark-ambient artists are guilty of this but regarding some of the more well known industrial metal acts like Ministry, KMFDM and Skinny Puppy etc. there is a fair bit of variation and dynamics in their sound in comparison.

03-30-2009, 11:48 AM	#24
Txus Out for Blood Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 42,389	Love power electronics/noise, there's a bunch of both on my blog Anyways, been listening to the lesser known Swans albums and they are so good, Body to Body, Job to Job is one of the most underrated albums ever.

03-30-2009, 11:57 AM	#25
~~Meatplow~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 35,656	I've only got Filth at the moment, gave it a proper listen the other day it's excellent. Get Body to Body next?

03-30-2009, 01:19 PM	#26
Jaundice watch that speed freak Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26,140	I was listening to self-titled EP earlier, I've never liked that one all that much though. Filth is a solid listen. The Godflesh album I tried might have been called Love and Hate In Dub? Not sure about the Love and Hate part, but it was something in dub. I figured I'd start out with remixes. I find that a large part of the concept of an industrial song is repetitive in nature, which is one of the things which makes creating good industrial challenging. I've been having to listen to more and more lately just to get an idea as to how different artists handle the variations and dynamics to not be redundant.

03-30-2009, 02:46 PM	#28
Jaundice watch that speed freak Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26,140	Don't care if it's not considered tr00, I gots mad respect for Nine Inch Nails. It's some of the most diverse industrial-related output I've ever heard, in terms of successfully crossing over with pop and rock styles. Even though they are usually considered kraut/kosmiche, I've got to say Faust's self-titled and So Far, along with Cluster's '71 and II are two of the most important albums in the development of industrial genre

03-30-2009, 02:50 PM	#29
RouteOne Gnarly till the end Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 78,517	consumer electronics and nihilist assault group tbh

03-30-2009, 02:52 PM	#31
RouteOne Gnarly till the end Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 78,517	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlSnjs-rl0

03-30-2009, 02:55 PM	#32
Jaundice watch that speed freak Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26,140	Neither one really, they're from the seventies so it was more so laying the ground work for the genre than easily fitting into a category of it. I'd describe it as psychedelic rock, with a lot of industrial tape experiments and grooves made from samples and found sounds. There's occasionally free jazz jamming and even the somewhat spaced out pop song here and there.

03-30-2009, 03:00 PM	#34
*Tyler* twitter.com/#!/tylrmunro Supermod Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 47,051

03-30-2009, 04:06 PM	#39
Angmar The Red Menace Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Washington Posts: 28,468	Looks like it would break easily.

03-30-2009, 07:04 PM	#40
RouteOne Gnarly till the end Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 78,517	http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4804477/Der_Blutharsch_In_the_Hands_of_the_Master