Industrial/Electronic/Ambient/Neofolk/Power Electronics (& Related Genres)

[rasputin]

what's everyone's favourite aidan baker album?

i've only heard scalpel and his stuff in nadja or with tim hecker, so ive started downloading 7 of his albums that looked cool/had decent ratings on RYM

[Ventriloquist]

Scalpel and Green & Cold are my favourites.

[bloc]

Speaking of genres, I still get confused. What is real industrial then? Because I know many of the people who think a band is industrial is actually industrial rock/metal.

[Lucian]

Lol, are you kidding me Jaundice? Celldweller's just about the most industrial band here!

[Jaundice]

Originally Posted by Meatplow

Yeah, idk if I would call myself that much of a first wave purist.

I mean, Industrial Records was pretty much nothing but releases by Throbbing Gristle and a few select artists barely anybody remembers. Even Monte Cazazza and Cabaret Voltaire didn't release the majority of their stuff through there.

There was a huge scene happening within the continuing development of post-punk, ambient, noise and electronic music and these all somewhat overlapped. Throbbing Gristle and many of the first wave bands could be accused of not being industrial at all, by this measure.

It's not exactly a law but that's kind of how it goes technically when you consider that Cazazza and Orridge invented the term specifically for records being put out by their label , and have denied association with the modern standard for what's industrial.

I'd be picky about calling something industrial when it's actually industrial rock, but I'll readily apply the term industrial to releases that weren't on the IR label if they came out during the right time period and had the right sound. I'm not about to call Einsturzende Neubauten and Severed Heads post-industrial.

[Ventriloquist]

Originally Posted by Lucian

Lol, are you kidding me Jaundice? Celldweller's just about the most industrial band here!

Haven't heard the band but Foetus was mentioned in the thread so the statement is false.

[Lucian]

Originally Posted by Ventriloquist

Haven't heard the band but Foetus was mentioned in the thread so the statement is false.

I was of course exaggerating. I haven't went through this entire thread.

[Jaundice]

Having a synth presence literally doesn't relate you to industrial in any way.

But I suppose i could listen to this celldweller and come back with some sort of diagnosis.

[Txus]

Originally Posted by rasputin

what's everyone's favourite aidan baker album?

i've only heard scalpel and his stuff in nadja or with tim hecker, so ive started downloading 7 of his albums that looked cool/had decent ratings on RYM

Scalpel, The Sea Swells a Bit... and Candescence are up there for me. Also his album with Tim Hecker.

I have 12 albums by the guy and I think I'm still missing more than half of his discog, haha.

[Meatplow]

Originally Posted by bloc

Speaking of genres, I still get confused. What is real industrial then? Because I know many of the people who think a band is industrial is actually industrial rock/metal.

Well, idk about "real" industrial as such (I think Alex is being a little over the top) but a lot of the first wave bands grew out of performance art collectives and were musically about dissonant tape loops, custom percussion, samples, analogue drum machines etc. Sort of a fusion of electronic, noise, post-punk and ambient influences.

Check out Throbbing Gristle's The Second Annual Report, Cabaret Voltaire's Mix-Up, SPK's Information Overload Unit, Thomas Leer & Robert Rental's The Bridge, Boyd Rice's The Black Album, The Worst Of Monte Cazazza and Maurizio Bianchi's Mectpyo Blut. Should get you grounded in the early stuff, idk quite how much you'll like it but should be a worthwhile history lesson in any case

[Jaundice]

Originally Posted by Meatplow

I think Alex is being a little over the top

[RouteOne]

Can someone recommend me some poppy/upbeat stuff?

[Meatplow]

Psychic TV - Trip Reset
My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult - Sexplosion!
Nitzer Ebb - That Total Age
The Young Gods - The Young Gods
A Split Second - From The Inside
Die Warzau - Disco Rigido
Chris & Cosey - Heartbeat
Endless Shame - Unspoken Words
Die Krupps - Volle Kraft Voraus!
The Fair Sex - Demented Forms

Originally Posted by Jaundice

I've never seen that photo of him before.

[Ventriloquist]

Haz check out the album I posted on the Links to demos.. thread. Wanna hear ur feedback. I'm looking forward to yours too Alex.

[Meatplow]

k man, I had a look at it before and was planning to download it later

will do soon

[Jaundice]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ron

Can someone recommend me some poppy/upbeat stuff?

Take it to the black metal thread. But in all seriousness industrial doesn't get any poppier and more upbeat than the Thrill Kill Kult album Haz rec'd. And Nine Inch Nail's first demo, Purest Feeling.

I'll definitely download that album tomorrow, Murat.

And Haz, you'd do well to get Cazazza's Power Versus Wisdom. It's him playing some of the more post-punk oriented material from the Worst Of album live, and Chris & Cosey make an appearance or two.

[Meatplow]

Yeah, that stuff was good.

I'll check it out, thanks.

[RouteOne]

I don't think Sonne Hagal gets enough attention. Anyone enjoy them?

[Meatplow]

Alright, thread title is getting kind of ridiculous but unless there are any other suggestions it'll do.

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