Cymbal & Head Finder Thread - Page 3

FL3P · 09-10-2009, 03:24 PM

I guess it depends on how "splashy" you want the splash to be. The bigger they are the louder and slightly more crash like they will be. If you liked the trashy sound of the Wuhan Zildjian makes trash splashes as well.

Permanent Solution · 09-13-2009, 11:11 AM

Excellent I'll try to poke around a little bit. Thanks for the response.

Aaron · 09-17-2009, 12:43 AM

Best non-kevlar head for a 10"x14" kit snare? I want sensitivity, but something to control the ring. I've tried all the CS style heads, and am now considering a thin head + moongel combo. Any other ideas?

Seafroggys · 09-17-2009, 01:41 AM

a thin head may not stand up to thicker sticks, if that's what you'll be using.

FL3P · 09-17-2009, 05:28 AM

Did you try an Emperor?

Aaron · 09-17-2009, 06:01 AM

I use 8AWs when I can find them, if not 7AN Manhattans.

I've been avoiding Emperors, but I think it may be a possibility down the track. I'd love a Fyberskin II with a CS Dot under it, but that'd be too much to ask, lol. I hate the feel of two-plies.

Slayter507 · 09-24-2009, 06:50 PM

Hey I'm a jazz drummer, looking for a new ride cymbal. I want a 22-24 incher, with really good stick articulation and a mellow ping (not too high pitched and cutting, but not too low pitched and dull either). Anybody have any suggestions?

Seafroggys · 09-24-2009, 07:10 PM

Can't go wrong with Ziljdian K's. Might want to look into the K Heavy Ride. Dark with lots of ping.

Aaron · 09-24-2009, 07:20 PM

I use the 22" K Heavy for jazz but for low-volume you need something smaller to pair with it. I've got it paired with a 20" K Crash-Ride. If you're into livelier jazz, or fusion, it's perfect.

I'd suggest looking into the 24" K Light Ride, it's a bit more expensive, but the extra size drops the pitch and allows you to control wash a lot more.

Alternately there's the Meinl Byzance Extra Dry Rides. They're lovely. I highly suggest them, but make sure you try them in person as I've come across a few with a bit of harshness in the wash.

donteatpieontuesday · 10-08-2009, 05:27 AM

after some advice

I have a pair of XS20 medium hats and the top hat has about a 7mm crack in it, I have cut out cracks from cymbals before I am just wondering from anyone with experience how much it will effect the sound/play.

Seafroggys · 10-10-2009, 02:01 PM

Have any of you tried the Remo Vintage A head? I bought it because the shop was out of regular coated Ambassadors. Apparently its 2 ply, one 7.5 mil, the other 3 mil (this was how the original ambassadors were made apparently). I just put mine on today for a gig. It sounds great. Just wondering if anybody else has any experience.

Permanent Solution · 10-10-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donteatpieontuesday

after some advice

I have a pair of XS20 medium hats and the top hat has about a 7mm crack in it, I have cut out cracks from cymbals before I am just wondering from anyone with experience how much it will effect the sound/play.

My hats broke on me about a year ago (under warranty, thankfully!) and they sounded alright most of the time even so. Trashier and quicker decay. I didn't play with them much once it was cracked though because I wanted it replaced.

Aaron · 11-15-2009, 12:17 AM

Alright. I can't decide on the final cymbal for my setup. The choices are:
18" K Custom MT Dark Crash
18" K Medium Dark Crash
18" K Crash-Ride

To pair with:
13" K Hats
16" K Custom Special Dry Crash
20" K Crash-Ride
22" K Heavy Ride
17 & 19" K Chinas

I've got splashes, and other cymbals I use in stacks, but yeah. What you think?

fishbulb · 11-15-2009, 01:04 AM

You already have a crash ride so why get another unless you really think you'd use it differently than the one you've already got. Just outta curiosity: You're not willing to venture out of the Zildjian K line?

Aaron · 11-15-2009, 05:23 AM

I like Ks, they all sit well together. I've got some non-K splashes I use, but any non-Ks I've owned I generally sell after a while as they don't fit with my set. I thought having the smaller version of the K Crash-Ride would be good for pairing, but I know what you mean. I've tried a heap and it's come down to those three.

ant_182 · 11-15-2009, 08:52 AM

id go for the k medium dark crash I think that it'd add something different to your sound, but still match the other cymbals if you get me?

fishbulb · 11-15-2009, 12:22 PM

What type of music do you play again, Aaron?

Aaron · 11-15-2009, 02:38 PM

Well my recorded output is ambient/IDM stuff, but I play in a hardcore band and a 9-piece fusion group. Also setting up a trio for weddings/50ths gigs.

Cymbal wise I need something that responds at different volumes, and isn't too bright when you lay into it. I play a lot of rute/brushes.

SgtBaker · 11-15-2009, 04:33 PM

so im in the market for a new ride. i have a K custom hybrid which is great, it is just really bright. im looking for something better for jazz as thats where my playing has been heading lately. im open to anything really, but ive been looking at bosphours turks which are real nice.

Aaron · 11-15-2009, 04:35 PM

Ping or wash? Dry or wet? etc?

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09-10-2009, 03:24 PM	#41
FL3P MXDP Over 30 Club Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chatham, ON, Canada Posts: 2,991	I guess it depends on how "splashy" you want the splash to be. The bigger they are the louder and slightly more crash like they will be. If you liked the trashy sound of the Wuhan Zildjian makes trash splashes as well.

09-13-2009, 11:11 AM	#42
Permanent Solution Feb. PPOTM \m/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a theater near you Posts: 42,469	Excellent I'll try to poke around a little bit. Thanks for the response.

09-17-2009, 12:43 AM	#43
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	Best non-kevlar head for a 10"x14" kit snare? I want sensitivity, but something to control the ring. I've tried all the CS style heads, and am now considering a thin head + moongel combo. Any other ideas?

09-17-2009, 01:41 AM	#44
Seafroggys Truffula Hugger Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edge of Nowhere Posts: 16,592	a thin head may not stand up to thicker sticks, if that's what you'll be using.

09-17-2009, 05:28 AM	#45
FL3P MXDP Over 30 Club Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chatham, ON, Canada Posts: 2,991	Did you try an Emperor?

09-17-2009, 06:01 AM	#46
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	I use 8AWs when I can find them, if not 7AN Manhattans. I've been avoiding Emperors, but I think it may be a possibility down the track. I'd love a Fyberskin II with a CS Dot under it, but that'd be too much to ask, lol. I hate the feel of two-plies.

09-24-2009, 06:50 PM	#47
Slayter507 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1	Hey I'm a jazz drummer, looking for a new ride cymbal. I want a 22-24 incher, with really good stick articulation and a mellow ping (not too high pitched and cutting, but not too low pitched and dull either). Anybody have any suggestions?

09-24-2009, 07:10 PM	#48
Seafroggys Truffula Hugger Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edge of Nowhere Posts: 16,592	Can't go wrong with Ziljdian K's. Might want to look into the K Heavy Ride. Dark with lots of ping.

09-24-2009, 07:20 PM	#49
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	I use the 22" K Heavy for jazz but for low-volume you need something smaller to pair with it. I've got it paired with a 20" K Crash-Ride. If you're into livelier jazz, or fusion, it's perfect. I'd suggest looking into the 24" K Light Ride, it's a bit more expensive, but the extra size drops the pitch and allows you to control wash a lot more. Alternately there's the Meinl Byzance Extra Dry Rides. They're lovely. I highly suggest them, but make sure you try them in person as I've come across a few with a bit of harshness in the wash.

10-08-2009, 05:27 AM	#50
donteatpieontuesday Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Geelong,Victoria Posts: 467	after some advice I have a pair of XS20 medium hats and the top hat has about a 7mm crack in it, I have cut out cracks from cymbals before I am just wondering from anyone with experience how much it will effect the sound/play.

10-10-2009, 02:01 PM	#51
Seafroggys Truffula Hugger Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edge of Nowhere Posts: 16,592	Have any of you tried the Remo Vintage A head? I bought it because the shop was out of regular coated Ambassadors. Apparently its 2 ply, one 7.5 mil, the other 3 mil (this was how the original ambassadors were made apparently). I just put mine on today for a gig. It sounds great. Just wondering if anybody else has any experience.

11-15-2009, 12:17 AM	#53
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	Alright. I can't decide on the final cymbal for my setup. The choices are: 18" K Custom MT Dark Crash 18" K Medium Dark Crash 18" K Crash-Ride To pair with: 13" K Hats 16" K Custom Special Dry Crash 20" K Crash-Ride 22" K Heavy Ride 17 & 19" K Chinas I've got splashes, and other cymbals I use in stacks, but yeah. What you think?

11-15-2009, 01:04 AM	#54
fishbulb Beck - Sea Change Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,077	You already have a crash ride so why get another unless you really think you'd use it differently than the one you've already got. Just outta curiosity: You're not willing to venture out of the Zildjian K line?

11-15-2009, 05:23 AM	#55
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	I like Ks, they all sit well together. I've got some non-K splashes I use, but any non-Ks I've owned I generally sell after a while as they don't fit with my set. I thought having the smaller version of the K Crash-Ride would be good for pairing, but I know what you mean. I've tried a heap and it's come down to those three.

11-15-2009, 08:52 AM	#56
ant_182 R.I.P Leo Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 4,897	id go for the k medium dark crash I think that it'd add something different to your sound, but still match the other cymbals if you get me?

11-15-2009, 12:22 PM	#57
fishbulb Beck - Sea Change Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,077	What type of music do you play again, Aaron?

11-15-2009, 02:38 PM	#58
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	Well my recorded output is ambient/IDM stuff, but I play in a hardcore band and a 9-piece fusion group. Also setting up a trio for weddings/50ths gigs. Cymbal wise I need something that responds at different volumes, and isn't too bright when you lay into it. I play a lot of rute/brushes.

11-15-2009, 04:33 PM	#59
SgtBaker i do declare Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: i can float thru the air Posts: 2,273	so im in the market for a new ride. i have a K custom hybrid which is great, it is just really bright. im looking for something better for jazz as thats where my playing has been heading lately. im open to anything really, but ive been looking at bosphours turks which are real nice.

11-15-2009, 04:35 PM	#60
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,855	Ping or wash? Dry or wet? etc?