Cymbal & Head Finder Thread

***billdrum*** · 03-18-2009, 08:30 PM

Looking for just the right cymbal or head? Ask here! Got a cymbal or drum sound in mind, but not sure what cymbal or head will give it to you? Ask here! Any other general questions about heads or cymbals? Ask here!

matt_h · 03-19-2009, 10:56 AM

*wanders into forum for the first time in months*

Where's the old one? :P

My kit has a Sabian Xs20 pack (14" Hats, 16" Crash and 20" Ride), I'm looking to expand with a second crash and a splash.

Crash - between the 2 crashes, I want to be able to play one (i.e. not just for accents); I play in a Church band and play a lot of Hillsong United stuff. Options are either get a 18" Crash-Ride, or get a 14" for accents and use the existing 16" for playing.

Splash - 8" or 10", don't mind, though having briefly visited my local drum shop earlier (before I came home from uni so I can't go back easily), 10" don't sound splashy enough for my liking.

So, the questions I have are...

What cymbals go well with the ones I have? I don't want the cymbals to sound out of place, I don't want a flat-sounding splash and I don't want the new crash to be a carbon-copy of my current one sound-wise. What to stay clear of?

I'm a cheap-skate and using eBay, and atm there are Paiste PST5 8" and 10" Splashes ending soon (£20-25 each). I have no idea if it will work well if my existing kit, and don't know if it's splashy enough. There's also a AAX 10" and a K 10".

My local drum shop also has some cheap new Stagg cymbals. Can't remember the line, again which ones are good, which are bad, or should I avoid them all-together?

Budget = under £100 on eBay for the two.

-TGP- · 03-19-2009, 12:38 PM

Whats the difference between HHX Power, Studio, X-plosion and Rock crashes?

Im assuming Studio is the thinest.. but where does it go from there?

Im going to be playing big band jazz to new age pop/rock with this new band im joining and i need some hella sick crash cymbals.

Tim · 03-19-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -TGP-

Whats the difference between HHX Power, Studio, X-plosion and Rock crashes?

Im assuming Studio is the thinest.. but where does it go from there?

Im going to be playing big band jazz to new age pop/rock with this new band im joining and i need some hella sick crash cymbals.

power=heavy
studio=thin
xplosion=med. thin
rock=med heavy

stage crashes from hhx are medium but from aax are medium thin.

im pretty sure thats the way it goes.

bobby__johnny · 04-03-2009, 08:49 AM

oi. never thought i'd see the thread die /mourn

Seafroggys · 04-03-2009, 03:28 PM

well due to the activity of these forums, its probably fairly easy to keep your thread on the front page

Randy_Orton1 · 04-14-2009, 06:18 PM

Hey,
I'm looking for a pair of hi-hats that would go good with my A Custom 18" Medium Crash (I love that cymbal, it's great). I need something that sounds good for rock/punk music. I'm a Zildjian whore, so only recommend Zildjian cymbals. Price is not really an issue

Aaron · 04-14-2009, 06:30 PM

14" New Beats.

Randy_Orton1 · 04-14-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron

14" New Beats.

Thanks. I was playing those at the music store and i liked them, and now coming as a suggestion, i'll take them! thanks

ant_182 · 04-15-2009, 10:34 AM

Zildian A/A Custom Mastersounds or just regular A Customs

Bitterandthensome · 05-23-2009, 11:18 AM

I'm thinking of getting some new hi-hiats and I would like something thats crisp but not too loud. I've been thinking of getting some Sabian 13'' APX. Any other ideas?

DrumIntoTheNight · 05-23-2009, 11:36 AM

APX would be too loud, surely?

Try 13" AAX-celerators.

Bitterandthensome · 05-23-2009, 12:31 PM

Ya, that was the only thing I had against the APX. What's the the price difference like though?

DrumIntoTheNight · 05-23-2009, 01:20 PM

Wouldn't know, I assume they're around a similar price.

We_Love_Lime · 05-30-2009, 06:15 PM

What do you guys know about using like a coated ambassador as a reso head?

fishbulb · 07-08-2009, 05:48 PM

I don't know why i'm so retarded when it comes to drumheads but i can't decide on what heads would be best for me. I've read through the drum bible countless times and still can't come to a consensus.

I have a 14" x 5.5" Pork Pie Piglite acryllic snare that i'm going to be using for recording. I like a tight crack out of my snare drums but i also like some body with it. This leads me to an Remo Emperor over a Diplomat or Ambassador (a.k.a. single ply muffled over thin or medium resos).

I always have problems with sympathetic vibrations with the snare drum and i can never seem to tune them out. Would choice of heads aid in the removal of unwanted snare buzz?

Thankyou guys and once again sorry for my retardation.

ant_182 · 07-09-2009, 11:04 AM

For that snare I'd get the CS Dot Reverse over and ambassador snare side.

Chrysostom · 07-09-2009, 01:02 PM

Would a Sabian AAX Stage Ride be a suitable cymbal for heavy rock/prog, because it's a medium weight cymbal rather than a heavy one, so I'm not sure? Could it stand the somewhat harder hitting that being heard at rock music volumes requires?

fishbulb · 07-09-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant_182

For that snare I'd get the CS Dot Reverse over and ambassador snare side.

That does look like exactly what i want but i'm getting them in evans since the rest of my heads are evans and i have OCD.

ant_182 · 07-09-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishbulb

That does look like exactly what i want but i'm getting them in evans since the rest of my heads are evans and i have OCD.

Heh, that's cool man. I have that two. I have to switch all my hardware to DW, cymbals to Zildjian.(unless I have a set of paiste/zildjian etc seperate) and same with heads etc. And drums FVF Customs! But smooth mate

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03-19-2009, 10:56 AM	#2
matt_h come on forest! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Warks, England Posts: 354	wanders into forum for the first time in months Where's the old one? :P My kit has a Sabian Xs20 pack (14" Hats, 16" Crash and 20" Ride), I'm looking to expand with a second crash and a splash. Crash - between the 2 crashes, I want to be able to play one (i.e. not just for accents); I play in a Church band and play a lot of Hillsong United stuff. Options are either get a 18" Crash-Ride, or get a 14" for accents and use the existing 16" for playing. Splash - 8" or 10", don't mind, though having briefly visited my local drum shop earlier (before I came home from uni so I can't go back easily), 10" don't sound splashy enough for my liking. So, the questions I have are... What cymbals go well with the ones I have? I don't want the cymbals to sound out of place, I don't want a flat-sounding splash and I don't want the new crash to be a carbon-copy of my current one sound-wise. What to stay clear of? I'm a cheap-skate and using eBay, and atm there are Paiste PST5 8" and 10" Splashes ending soon (£20-25 each). I have no idea if it will work well if my existing kit, and don't know if it's splashy enough. There's also a AAX 10" and a K 10". My local drum shop also has some cheap new Stagg cymbals. Can't remember the line, again which ones are good, which are bad, or should I avoid them all-together? Budget = under £100 on eBay for the two.

03-19-2009, 12:38 PM	#3
-TGP- Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 2,093	Whats the difference between HHX Power, Studio, X-plosion and Rock crashes? Im assuming Studio is the thinest.. but where does it go from there? Im going to be playing big band jazz to new age pop/rock with this new band im joining and i need some hella sick crash cymbals.

04-03-2009, 08:49 AM	#5
bobby__johnny Deep-Dish Snare Action Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The John, New Brunswick - Canada Posts: 11,811	oi. never thought i'd see the thread die /mourn

04-03-2009, 03:28 PM	#6
Seafroggys Truffula Hugger Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edge of Nowhere Posts: 16,603	well due to the activity of these forums, its probably fairly easy to keep your thread on the front page

04-14-2009, 06:18 PM	#7
Randy_Orton1 Drummer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 305	Hey, I'm looking for a pair of hi-hats that would go good with my A Custom 18" Medium Crash (I love that cymbal, it's great). I need something that sounds good for rock/punk music. I'm a Zildjian whore, so only recommend Zildjian cymbals. Price is not really an issue

04-14-2009, 06:30 PM	#8
Aaron Max Headroom Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ride The Wave Posts: 32,877	14" New Beats.

04-15-2009, 10:34 AM	#10
ant_182 R.I.P Leo Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 4,897	Zildian A/A Custom Mastersounds or just regular A Customs

05-23-2009, 11:18 AM	#11
Bitterandthensome Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	I'm thinking of getting some new hi-hiats and I would like something thats crisp but not too loud. I've been thinking of getting some Sabian 13'' APX. Any other ideas?

05-23-2009, 11:36 AM	#12
DrumIntoTheNight Sound Engineering Nerd Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind an SSL Southwark, London Posts: 2,390	APX would be too loud, surely? Try 13" AAX-celerators.

05-23-2009, 12:31 PM	#13
Bitterandthensome Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	Ya, that was the only thing I had against the APX. What's the the price difference like though?

05-23-2009, 01:20 PM	#14
DrumIntoTheNight Sound Engineering Nerd Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind an SSL Southwark, London Posts: 2,390	Wouldn't know, I assume they're around a similar price.

05-30-2009, 06:15 PM	#15
We_Love_Lime Most Not Sleep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Must Warn Others Posts: 9,584	What do you guys know about using like a coated ambassador as a reso head?

07-08-2009, 05:48 PM	#16
fishbulb Beck - Sea Change Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,077	I don't know why i'm so retarded when it comes to drumheads but i can't decide on what heads would be best for me. I've read through the drum bible countless times and still can't come to a consensus. I have a 14" x 5.5" Pork Pie Piglite acryllic snare that i'm going to be using for recording. I like a tight crack out of my snare drums but i also like some body with it. This leads me to an Remo Emperor over a Diplomat or Ambassador (a.k.a. single ply muffled over thin or medium resos). I always have problems with sympathetic vibrations with the snare drum and i can never seem to tune them out. Would choice of heads aid in the removal of unwanted snare buzz? Thankyou guys and once again sorry for my retardation.

07-09-2009, 11:04 AM	#17
ant_182 R.I.P Leo Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 4,897	For that snare I'd get the CS Dot Reverse over and ambassador snare side.

07-09-2009, 01:02 PM	#18
Chrysostom Palace player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 7,036	Would a Sabian AAX Stage Ride be a suitable cymbal for heavy rock/prog, because it's a medium weight cymbal rather than a heavy one, so I'm not sure? Could it stand the somewhat harder hitting that being heard at rock music volumes requires?