Tips And Questions

D!nandtott! · 01-06-2003, 01:32 PM

If you have any tips...post them here...if you have any questions...post them here

I ask all members to visit this thread once in a while and see if you can help someone out.

BeefiestCloud · 01-06-2003, 05:16 PM

some tips... Go wild with your writing. Be creative with it. Dont be afraid of writing somethin cause you may think it sucks... So what if it does? You may look back at it a few months later and it might provoke another idea, or concept for something better to build on. I would suggest that you read other peoples writings. It will help you get your own style of writing.

sadisticmonkey · 01-06-2003, 06:15 PM

dont get caught up in writing dark twisted imagery (unless thats truly who you are) write what comes from the heart and soul....

also, dont use words you dont know the meaning to...

HaVIC5 · 01-06-2003, 06:50 PM

Metaphors are your friend. Even if they are rather bland, they can add a lot to you writing.

01-06-2003, 07:22 PM

Don't worry about whether to write music first or lyrics first. Do whichever one you're inspired in first.

01-06-2003, 08:20 PM

How would I start out making a song? I can sit and think for a long time and end up with nothing. I might be able to come up with a few words or sentances sometimes but thats all, Any help on starting out? Thanks

Great tips by the way keep them coming!

jurialmunkey · 01-06-2003, 09:45 PM

its a pitty we lost the original songwriting guide to spam...

So Far we have

01. Be Wild and don't care about what others might think.
02. Try out your ideas if they don't work it doesn't matter.
03. Read otherpeoples stuff
04. Write from the heart, no from a facade
05. Watch out for big words.
06. Metaphors are your friend!!!!!! (THIS IS A BIG POINT)
07. Doesn't matter whether you write music or lyrics first.

sadisticmonkey · 01-06-2003, 10:10 PM

be aware of the meaning of your song...in otherwords, always be ready to explain your song...whether it has meaning or not

(John lennon insisted Lucy in th sky with diamonds, was not about LSD, but a picture his son Julian drew that showed his school pal, lucy, flying in the sky with diamonds....Was this the real meaning? or a clever way to avoid bad publicity?)

01-07-2003, 11:51 AM

*extreme embarrasment*...remind me...what's a metaphor exactly?..

jurialmunkey · 01-07-2003, 12:45 PM

A Metaphor is something used to describe something by comparing it to another thing to show that it shares similar qualities while not being the actual thing. A Metaphor is a compressed simile

Example of a Metaphor
The Man IS a bear - The man isn't physically a bear but this instead inplies that the man shares the qualities of a bear such as being big, fearsome and strong.... or maybe furry.

Example of a Simile
The Man IS LIKE a bear - Similar to the metaphor but doesn't show the extreme likness, with the metaphor we get a much bolder picture but this may not always be the effect we want. eg The Moon is Cheese compared to The Moon is like Cheese - the metaphor in this case just sounds ridiculus

D!nandtott! · 01-07-2003, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MINE13
*extreme embarrasment*...remind me...what's a metaphor exactly?..

and

Quote:

Originally posted by jurialmunkey
A Metaphor is something used to describe something by comparing it to another thing to show that it shares similar qualities while not being the actual thing. A Metaphor is a compressed simile

Example of a Metaphor
The Man IS a bear - The man isn't physically a bear but this instead inplies that the man shares the qualities of a bear such as being big, fearsome and strong.... or maybe furry.

Example of a Simile
The Man IS LIKE a bear - Similar to the metaphor but doesn't show the extreme likness, with the metaphor we get a much bolder picture but this may not always be the effect we want. eg The Moon is Cheese compared to The Moon is like Cheese - the metaphor in this case just sounds ridiculus

This makes me happy

Lowridenn · 01-07-2003, 01:55 PM

01. I am a firm believer that you do not have to have a personal experience to write about something. (IE: I've never had a close friend of mine die, but I can write about it).

02. Word choice. Try not to use the same adjective twice in one piece (unless it's rather large). (IE: "The crimson smell lost it's potency" and "Crimson seeps from my wound like a re-hired scab") It makes the piece seem boring and repetetive.

03. I personally think that reading other people's works, is one of the most important thing you can do. If you don't understand a word in someone's piece, look it up. http://dictionary.com is a wonderful site (it also has a thesaurus). This is how you learn new words.

flywithdiamonds · 01-07-2003, 03:03 PM

I personally think that there are 3 things that all writers should try and stick too these are structure, flow and colour.

Structurless songs are pretty much useless as it will be a hell of a job putting music to it and it just won't work so make sure you structure your songs.

Flow is not as important as structure but its important to be able to link parts of songs together so they don't seem like random lone sentences.

Colour this is not as important as the previous two as colour comes from the music not the words but it's nicer to read more colourful songs on here.

well there you have it my bitchy guide too song writing
Steve

01-07-2003, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OobieJ00bie
How would I start out making a song? I can sit and think for a long time and end up with nothing. I might be able to come up with a few words or sentances sometimes but thats all, Any help on starting out? Thanks

Great tips by the way keep them coming!

Just be patient. In time, you'll get a good idea for a couple of guitar riffs or a drum beat or some lyrics and the whole thing will fall into place just building on that one element.

machubaby705 · 01-07-2003, 03:35 PM

Hey, ne one withne ideas out there, would they like to hepl me out. Im a punk guitar player and i need some tips on writing music

jurialmunkey · 01-07-2003, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D!nandtott!

This makes me happy

Why thank-you!

To Machubaby705: if u enjoy playing punk try to stick to basic chords and powerchords and get used to alot of fast right hand picking for long times... learn somebasic chord sequences such as I IV V etc. and play with rhythms

personally I feel by limiting ur self to a style u limit ur musical talent, experiment and find ur own sound and style.

If lyrics r the problem then the only 2 things that can really help u develop is reading other peoples stuff that u like and also stuff u don't like, but also try to identify their strengths and weeknesses and practice writing. It will develop if u keep 2 it, keep trying because it won't happen overnight, and then one day u'll look at ur stuff and say "hey this stuff is actually pretty good" (hopefully)

The Unforgiven One · 01-07-2003, 08:03 PM

If you have a problem with getting ideas. I'll reveal my secret, just write every thought that enters your head, then when your through just weed out the crap and rewite it. I don't expect this to work for anyone else but me but you all can try and if it does work thats great.

Blinded From Truth · 01-08-2003, 12:12 AM

Masturbate at least 6 times a day, it can do wonders for you, also make sure that you use lubricant, or it may be a little irritating

01-08-2003, 04:01 PM

i need some advice on lyrics for a nice song i have wrote. I have no problem commin up with riffs, and i have made this really nice song, but dont know where to start lyrics wise. Its really soft song, like nothing else matters by metallica(if uve heard that). Once i get a topic for the lyrics im away, but i cant seem to get anything down, can u please help, thanks, andy

phetheant · 01-08-2003, 06:38 PM

I have the opposite problem, dont seem to have a problem with writing the lyrics for my songs...up to a point...but as yet ive not been able to match a single song with any music ive tried to do for it.

01-06-2003, 01:32 PM	#1
D!nandtott! Eunuch Provocateur Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 3,061	Tips And Questions If you have any tips...post them here...if you have any questions...post them here I ask all members to visit this thread once in a while and see if you can help someone out.

01-07-2003, 03:35 PM	#15
machubaby705 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: in michigan Posts: 2	writing lyrics Hey, ne one withne ideas out there, would they like to hepl me out. Im a punk guitar player and i need some tips on writing music

01-08-2003, 04:01 PM	#19
peacesellsuk Guest Posts: n/a	Help Me i need some advice on lyrics for a nice song i have wrote. I have no problem commin up with riffs, and i have made this really nice song, but dont know where to start lyrics wise. Its really soft song, like nothing else matters by metallica(if uve heard that). Once i get a topic for the lyrics im away, but i cant seem to get anything down, can u please help, thanks, andy

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01-06-2003, 05:16 PM	#2
BeefiestCloud I'm a huge Dinosaur! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 517	some tips... Go wild with your writing. Be creative with it. Dont be afraid of writing somethin cause you may think it sucks... So what if it does? You may look back at it a few months later and it might provoke another idea, or concept for something better to build on. I would suggest that you read other peoples writings. It will help you get your own style of writing.

01-06-2003, 06:15 PM	#3
sadisticmonkey Rrrronkey Conkey CONK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In your soup! Posts: 6,785	dont get caught up in writing dark twisted imagery (unless thats truly who you are) write what comes from the heart and soul.... also, dont use words you dont know the meaning to...

01-06-2003, 06:50 PM	#4
HaVIC5 The Armed Pawn Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 10,171	Metaphors are your friend. Even if they are rather bland, they can add a lot to you writing.

01-06-2003, 07:22 PM	#5
sk8r crus8r Guest Posts: n/a	Don't worry about whether to write music first or lyrics first. Do whichever one you're inspired in first.

01-06-2003, 08:20 PM	#6
OobieJ00bie Guest Posts: n/a	How would I start out making a song? I can sit and think for a long time and end up with nothing. I might be able to come up with a few words or sentances sometimes but thats all, Any help on starting out? Thanks Great tips by the way keep them coming!

01-06-2003, 09:45 PM	#7
jurialmunkey You Need Sunshine, Vitamin... S&amp;L Mx Sarcasm Princess. Look-out, I bite... Or does that turn you on? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside a Bi-Polar Bear Posts: 2,131	its a pitty we lost the original songwriting guide to spam... So Far we have 01. Be Wild and don't care about what others might think. 02. Try out your ideas if they don't work it doesn't matter. 03. Read otherpeoples stuff 04. Write from the heart, no from a facade 05. Watch out for big words. 06. Metaphors are your friend!!!!!! (THIS IS A BIG POINT) 07. Doesn't matter whether you write music or lyrics first.

01-06-2003, 10:10 PM	#8
sadisticmonkey Rrrronkey Conkey CONK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In your soup! Posts: 6,785	be aware of the meaning of your song...in otherwords, always be ready to explain your song...whether it has meaning or not (John lennon insisted Lucy in th sky with diamonds, was not about LSD, but a picture his son Julian drew that showed his school pal, lucy, flying in the sky with diamonds....Was this the real meaning? or a clever way to avoid bad publicity?)

01-07-2003, 11:51 AM	#9
MINE13 Guest Posts: n/a	extreme embarrasment...remind me...what's a metaphor exactly?..

01-07-2003, 12:45 PM	#10
jurialmunkey You Need Sunshine, Vitamin... S&amp;L Mx Sarcasm Princess. Look-out, I bite... Or does that turn you on? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside a Bi-Polar Bear Posts: 2,131	A Metaphor is something used to describe something by comparing it to another thing to show that it shares similar qualities while not being the actual thing. A Metaphor is a compressed simile Example of a Metaphor The Man IS a bear - The man isn't physically a bear but this instead inplies that the man shares the qualities of a bear such as being big, fearsome and strong.... or maybe furry. Example of a Simile The Man IS LIKE a bear - Similar to the metaphor but doesn't show the extreme likness, with the metaphor we get a much bolder picture but this may not always be the effect we want. eg The Moon is Cheese compared to The Moon is like Cheese - the metaphor in this case just sounds ridiculus

01-07-2003, 01:55 PM	#12
Lowridenn With your powers combined Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,165	01. I am a firm believer that you do not have to have a personal experience to write about something. (IE: I've never had a close friend of mine die, but I can write about it). 02. Word choice. Try not to use the same adjective twice in one piece (unless it's rather large). (IE: "The crimson smell lost it's potency" and "Crimson seeps from my wound like a re-hired scab") It makes the piece seem boring and repetetive. 03. I personally think that reading other people's works, is one of the most important thing you can do. If you don't understand a word in someone's piece, look it up. http://dictionary.com is a wonderful site (it also has a thesaurus). This is how you learn new words.

01-07-2003, 03:03 PM	#13
flywithdiamonds A Wannabe Writer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Devon, England Posts: 590	I personally think that there are 3 things that all writers should try and stick too these are structure, flow and colour. Structurless songs are pretty much useless as it will be a hell of a job putting music to it and it just won't work so make sure you structure your songs. Flow is not as important as structure but its important to be able to link parts of songs together so they don't seem like random lone sentences. Colour this is not as important as the previous two as colour comes from the music not the words but it's nicer to read more colourful songs on here. well there you have it my bitchy guide too song writing Steve

01-07-2003, 08:03 PM	#17
The Unforgiven One mx resident psychopath Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 1,163	If you have a problem with getting ideas. I'll reveal my secret, just write every thought that enters your head, then when your through just weed out the crap and rewite it. I don't expect this to work for anyone else but me but you all can try and if it does work thats great.

01-08-2003, 12:12 AM	#18
Blinded From Truth Touch my weiner Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: I like Nachos Posts: 122	Masturbate at least 6 times a day, it can do wonders for you, also make sure that you use lubricant, or it may be a little irritating

01-08-2003, 06:38 PM	#20
phetheant Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 103	I have the opposite problem, dont seem to have a problem with writing the lyrics for my songs...up to a point...but as yet ive not been able to match a single song with any music ive tried to do for it.