Lesson: Double paradiddles or para-para-diddles in grooves

_Austin_ · 01-31-2008, 10:01 AM

Helloo again MX.

Heres the second of two lessons im reviving due to the forum change...

As you can see below the note values used to make a para-para-diddle consist of 6 sextuplet notes.

To grasp the feel of these notes you must first get used to playing sextuplet single stroke rolls, Here is a good way to practice them with a click

Once, you have cottoned onto this idea, you can progress...

If everyone can't remember the double paradiddle sticking (or Para-para-diddle), it goes like this:

Excuse the dodgy handwriting...

RLRLRR LRLRLL

A good idea would be to Practice this sticking on a practice pad.

Next i will show a basic para-para-diddle fill for a simple groove. To help you keep tempo, accent the first note of the double paradiddle each time it cycles round, So for instance:

Now you can start messing with this sticking and play on different drums/cymbals/percussive instruments... Dont forget the variation of opening the hi-hats on some hi-hat notes, Maybe even placing a bass drum underneath these hi-hat openings.

Here is a variation on the fill posted above:

NOTE: the change from hi-hats to ride cymbal on the second cycle of the sticking!

Again, i stress that displacaing accents and adding flams/ruff/drags/double strokes and all different kinds of rudiments can add flavour and texture to the fill!

Another thing you might consider adding is; rests!

Mess around with it and you should come up with some super funky stuff! If you want to transcribe any cool licks you come up with, that are to do with this topic, feel free to post them!

Have fun!
-Austin

***billdrum*** · 01-31-2008, 10:04 AM

Thanks again Austin. I love the manuscript!

_Austin_ · 01-31-2008, 10:06 AM

Haha cheers bill! Can you say napkin?

These are all old lessons im just re-posting, i think i might start writing some other ones

The Mites · 01-31-2008, 03:24 PM

Are they meant to be in 6/4?

_Austin_ · 01-31-2008, 05:46 PM

Does it matter?

The Mites · 01-31-2008, 06:05 PM

Don't take offense :-/

_Austin_ · 01-31-2008, 06:20 PM

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that i might have

I honestly didn't realise that they were written in 6/8, but considering the purpose of the lesson, the fact that the examples are written in 6/8 isn't a biggie.

We_Love_Lime · 01-31-2008, 08:45 PM

Don't you mean 6/4?

_Austin_ · 02-01-2008, 02:26 AM

^caught again... im erm... testing you guys...

~~OzzyTheDoggy~~ · 02-01-2008, 06:21 PM

Excellent stuff Austin! Those are great licks to incorporate into anyones playing.

This is a really cool set of licks/ideas to spread over 2 beats instead of going for that 6:4 thing. Creates some very interesting note tension that begs for resolve.

Don't mind the children man, "Does it matter?" No, it has no bearing on the actual lesson or the lessons subject. Keep up the good work! Look forward to seeing more 'napkin ideas', they are the best..!

01-31-2008, 10:01 AM	#1
_Austin_ asmobilerecording.co.uk Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West midlands, UK Posts: 1,700	Lesson: Double paradiddles or para-para-diddles in grooves Helloo again MX. Heres the second of two lessons im reviving due to the forum change... As you can see below the note values used to make a para-para-diddle consist of 6 sextuplet notes. To grasp the feel of these notes you must first get used to playing sextuplet single stroke rolls, Here is a good way to practice them with a click Once, you have cottoned onto this idea, you can progress... If everyone can't remember the double paradiddle sticking (or Para-para-diddle), it goes like this: Excuse the dodgy handwriting... RLRLRR LRLRLL A good idea would be to Practice this sticking on a practice pad. Next i will show a basic para-para-diddle fill for a simple groove. To help you keep tempo, accent the first note of the double paradiddle each time it cycles round, So for instance: Now you can start messing with this sticking and play on different drums/cymbals/percussive instruments... Dont forget the variation of opening the hi-hats on some hi-hat notes, Maybe even placing a bass drum underneath these hi-hat openings. Here is a variation on the fill posted above: NOTE: the change from hi-hats to ride cymbal on the second cycle of the sticking! Again, i stress that displacaing accents and adding flams/ruff/drags/double strokes and all different kinds of rudiments can add flavour and texture to the fill! Another thing you might consider adding is; rests! Mess around with it and you should come up with some super funky stuff! If you want to transcribe any cool licks you come up with, that are to do with this topic, feel free to post them! Have fun! -Austin Last edited by _Austin_; 02-01-2008 at 02:27 AM.

01-31-2008, 10:04 AM	#2
*billdrum* Time Is Of The Essence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western IL Posts: 4,696	Thanks again Austin. I love the manuscript! __________________ MXDP Peace & Time Keeper

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01-31-2008, 10:06 AM	#3
_Austin_ asmobilerecording.co.uk Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West midlands, UK Posts: 1,700	Haha cheers bill! Can you say napkin? These are all old lessons im just re-posting, i think i might start writing some other ones

01-31-2008, 03:24 PM	#4
The Mites ska flytta snart Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Göteborg, Sverige Posts: 809	Are they meant to be in 6/4?

01-31-2008, 05:46 PM	#5
_Austin_ asmobilerecording.co.uk Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West midlands, UK Posts: 1,700	Does it matter?

01-31-2008, 06:05 PM	#6
The Mites ska flytta snart Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Göteborg, Sverige Posts: 809	Don't take offense :-/

01-31-2008, 06:20 PM	#7
_Austin_ asmobilerecording.co.uk Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West midlands, UK Posts: 1,700	Sorry, didn't mean to imply that i might have I honestly didn't realise that they were written in 6/8, but considering the purpose of the lesson, the fact that the examples are written in 6/8 isn't a biggie.

01-31-2008, 08:45 PM	#8
We_Love_Lime Most Not Sleep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Must Warn Others Posts: 9,594	Don't you mean 6/4?

02-01-2008, 02:26 AM	#9
_Austin_ asmobilerecording.co.uk Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West midlands, UK Posts: 1,700	^caught again... im erm... testing you guys...

02-01-2008, 06:21 PM	#10
~~OzzyTheDoggy~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 97	Excellent stuff Austin! Those are great licks to incorporate into anyones playing. This is a really cool set of licks/ideas to spread over 2 beats instead of going for that 6:4 thing. Creates some very interesting note tension that begs for resolve. Don't mind the children man, "Does it matter?" No, it has no bearing on the actual lesson or the lessons subject. Keep up the good work! Look forward to seeing more 'napkin ideas', they are the best..!