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Old 01-24-2008, 11:46 AM   #1
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Practicing Near The Breakdown Point

Here is a graphic representation of a practice technique that ensures drummers achieve both dimensions of drumming excellence: speed and accuracy.

http://jasonhorsler.tripod.com/id94.html

this is a lesson i give all my pupils so i decided to put it up neatly on my website rather than just scrawl it on paper for them during lessons. have a gander

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Old 01-24-2008, 12:50 PM   #2
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Speed is a side-effect of control.


Oh whoops! I'm sorry... I didn't mean to summarise your 550 word article in 7 words.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:52 PM   #3
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don't worry ... you didn't

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Old 01-24-2008, 03:46 PM   #4
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Thats not a bad lesson but it's a little long winded. You could easily cut it down and make it much more simple. I don't think the graph is all that necessary, it makes what you're trying to say seem more complicated than it actually is.
I do agree with you though: work up to your maximum speed, drop the tempo down to a place you feel comfortable and hold it there.


Speed and accuracy the only dimensions of drumming excellence...? The excellence of rudimental practice, maybe but otherwise I'd have to disagree. I mean, does musicality count for nothing?
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:57 PM   #5
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accurately capturing expression
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:25 AM   #6
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Speed is a side-effect of control.


Oh whoops! I'm sorry... I didn't mean to summarise your 550 word article in 7 words.
Lol, man, you're a dick. All you do is rip on this guy.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:43 AM   #7
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Oh whoops! I'm sorry... I didn't mean to summarise your 550 word article in 7 words.

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Kit Setup

I love big drum kit setups. There’s nothing quite like seeing a beefy drum-monster overloaded with testosterone. However, one thing I personally can not stand is long set up times. The trade-off just isn’t worth it.
The same thing goes for your choice of hardware, and this is rather a big issue, especially nowadays where you really are spoiled for choice when it comes to hardware. Some of the later products from DW and Gibraltar are the epitome of this.

Let me break this down:

Toms: You could have a couple; you could have a ridiculous Mike Portnoy amount. It doesn’t really matter. What matters is how many you personally feel comfortable playing on. I don’t feel comfortable playing with two floor toms. Other people are, and that doesn’t matter. What matters is that you will be carrying both those floor toms to and from your car before and after the gig/session.

With regards to placement, your tom-toms should descend in pitch from left to right. There are a good many great drummers who switch some of their toms around to make playing them more difficult or for aesthetics or whatever. In all seriousness, the drum kit is a hard enough instrument already and if you need to find ways of making it more difficult then you need to stop and reflect as to why you are playing in the first place. Secondly, you should never set up your drums or cymbals in a particular way that is fashionable, with that being the singular reason. Aesthetics is never a reason. The previous sentence should be our mantra. Remember it, tell your friends, spray-paint it on your school, tattoo it on your upper thigh. Just don’t forget it! You shouldn’t have to reach for your toms either; they should be at arms length so you aren’t thrown off balance when you play them. I strongly suggest watching Billy Ward’s DVD entitled Big Time for a fantastic source of drumming minus bullpoop.
"I'm better than you"

Oh sorry i didn't mean to summarize your however-many-word article into 4 words.

Anyway...awesome lesson. I should really start doing this...and by "this" i mean just practicing rudiments and stuff like that in general. All I've been doing lately is just groovin around the kit and playing with my band...not actually WORKING on anything.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:41 AM   #8
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I do not understand how you percieve your "diagram" as accurate when there are no units of measurement.

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The article I wrote had no hint of self-superiority whatsoever.

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Old 01-25-2008, 12:08 PM   #9
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you crack me up enemy. lol

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I do not understand how you percieve your "diagram" as accurate when there are no units of measurement.
you would need units of measurement mites.
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...What?
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:18 PM   #11
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you would need units of measurement mites.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:01 PM   #12
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Wow. I obviously said "...What?" because I didn't hear what you said despite the text-based medium.

Maybe you could try explaining what your sentence means?
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Wow. I obviously said "...What?" because I didn't hear what you said despite the text-based medium.

Maybe you could try explaining what your sentence means?
or maybe he's just ****ing with you because you're a dick?
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:34 PM   #14
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:01 AM   #16
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What makes me a dick? Because I challenge the thread-starter's proclamations?

I guess all members of parliament are dicks too then...
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:16 AM   #17
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Hey guys, MX members are now official members of the parliament, so it's ok to be dicks to each other!!

There's ways to "challenge" someones thoughts and ideas without being a sarcastic spatula, unless that's just who you are. If that's the case, then my apologies.

Anyways...at least he is trying to positively contribute to the Lessons thread and appears to be about one of two or so people that have so far.
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:16 AM   #18
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Uhhhh....

So what you're saying is...

Practice and you get better...

My dear lord, the revelations that are now unfolding.
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Old 01-26-2008, 11:28 AM   #19
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Hey guys, MX members are now official members of the parliament, so it's ok to be dicks to each other!!

Here's where you are being hypocritical. You use sarcasm to counter my previous statement, and then in your next paragraph you associate sarcasm with being an "spatula". Furthermore, no we are not members of parliament but we are human beings all the same and should challenge the information we are given unless it coincides with our own logic and reasoning.

There's ways to "challenge" someones thoughts and ideas without being a sarcastic spatula, unless that's just who you are. If that's the case, then my apologies.

I hereby decline your apology.

Anyways...at least he is trying to positively contribute to the Lessons thread and appears to be about one of two or so people that have so far.

There is a diference between trying, and achieving.
Anything else mate?
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:26 PM   #20
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Uhhhh....

So what you're saying is...

Practice and you get better...

My dear lord, the revelations that are now unfolding.
What he is saying is make sure you practice at a speed you can handle while using correct technique. It's good advice that every drummer can benefit from.
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