13" Meinl Byzance Darks Hats

Drum Phil · 01-15-2008, 01:22 PM

13" Dark Hats

Idea

Designed to recreate the old turkish sound from a different perspective

Durability

No obvious flaws in the hammering. Thin, even weight with no "soft spots".

Price

£170 aprox. Given zildjian charges nearly £400 for its "Constantinople" series, this is a VERY fair price for something thats actually closer to the sound of the old K's.

Features

As the name suggests, these hats are insanely dark due to the lack of lathing. They have a quick response, a tight chick and a lot of wash when allowed to open up. My experience with hats has taught me that you cant really take your foot off the pedal and leave them to their own devices while you play them. These however can be played open and uncontrolled without them misbehaving. The closed sound is tight, sharp and oh so dark, while the open sound roars and all of this is accompanied by a gorgeous, quick foot chick.

Contrary to zildjians attempt at the old K sound, byzances are both hand hammered and made in turkey.

Overall

If you're looking for something that'll fit well into jazz, then you better get your wallet out. If you want a dark, vintage K sound then these are for you. Despite the jazz crowd obviously being in mind when these were made, they fit well into everything i play, including metal/punk.

5/5

Top hat

Bottom hat

-TGP- · 01-15-2008, 09:47 PM

Those are beautiful hats, and a great review.

Drum Phil · 01-16-2008, 01:15 PM

They're visually and aurally pleasing

Who could say no to them?

Panopticon · 01-16-2008, 02:37 PM

the blind and the deaf.

double stroke roller · 01-16-2008, 07:11 PM

Those are great looking hats Phil. What cymbal set up do you play with those?

Drum Phil · 01-17-2008, 12:04 PM

Right now?

13" Byzance Dark Hats
18" Byzance Dark Crash
6" Zilbel
20" Zildjian Platinum Rock Ride
19" Sabian AAXplosion

Normally, my full rig.

-TGP- · 01-17-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enemytopublic2

the blind and the deaf.

Loved it

Daven · 01-18-2008, 02:49 PM

Dark Byzance = hot and sexy

thenamesaysitall · 03-09-2008, 09:03 AM

i have a pair of 13" medium byzance hats and i do love them, i need to have play on a pair of darks though, the look is so damn cool

oliv_da_skinmasher · 03-09-2008, 09:08 AM

Looks aint everything.

Datsuzoku · 03-10-2008, 09:06 AM

Quite. But those are some attractive cymbals.

oliv_da_skinmasher · 03-10-2008, 09:18 AM

Personally I find them repulsive lol

Gimmie either of these two any day

Panopticon · 03-10-2008, 10:25 AM

rudes are the ugliest cymbals EVER.

oliv_da_skinmasher · 03-10-2008, 10:32 AM

I rather like em

Datsuzoku · 03-10-2008, 10:58 AM

The rudes i've seen look fairly similar to Byzance darks. The only difference, to my eyes, is that rudes have a more uniform hammering pattern and an uglier logo.

Vannaroth · 03-10-2008, 08:34 PM

I object to Turkish cymbals being named after Byzantium, what with them being enemies n all. Whatever, I want those hats.

thenamesaysitall · 03-11-2008, 02:19 PM

im not a fan of that rude logo...

Harrow · 03-11-2008, 03:59 PM

I own these hats and I absolutely love them. I don't even play that much jazz but I like these regardless of what kind of music I am playing, they sound amazing at all times.

01-15-2008, 01:22 PM	#1
Drum Phil Electrohead Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shíthole-on-tees, UK Posts: 22,830	13" Meinl Byzance Darks Hats 13" Dark Hats Idea Designed to recreate the old turkish sound from a different perspective Durability No obvious flaws in the hammering. Thin, even weight with no "soft spots". Price £170 aprox. Given zildjian charges nearly £400 for its "Constantinople" series, this is a VERY fair price for something thats actually closer to the sound of the old K's. Features As the name suggests, these hats are insanely dark due to the lack of lathing. They have a quick response, a tight chick and a lot of wash when allowed to open up. My experience with hats has taught me that you cant really take your foot off the pedal and leave them to their own devices while you play them. These however can be played open and uncontrolled without them misbehaving. The closed sound is tight, sharp and oh so dark, while the open sound roars and all of this is accompanied by a gorgeous, quick foot chick. Contrary to zildjians attempt at the old K sound, byzances are both hand hammered and made in turkey. Overall If you're looking for something that'll fit well into jazz, then you better get your wallet out. If you want a dark, vintage K sound then these are for you. Despite the jazz crowd obviously being in mind when these were made, they fit well into everything i play, including metal/punk. 5/5 Top hat Bottom hat

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01-15-2008, 09:47 PM	#2
-TGP- Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,065	Those are beautiful hats, and a great review.

01-16-2008, 01:15 PM	#3
Drum Phil Electrohead Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shíthole-on-tees, UK Posts: 22,830	They're visually and aurally pleasing Who could say no to them?

01-16-2008, 02:37 PM	#4
Panopticon MXDP Stoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Posts: 16,717	the blind and the deaf.

01-16-2008, 07:11 PM	#5
double stroke roller Master Duallist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: obssesive compulsive drumming disorder land Posts: 634	Those are great looking hats Phil. What cymbal set up do you play with those?

01-17-2008, 12:04 PM	#6
Drum Phil Electrohead Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shíthole-on-tees, UK Posts: 22,830	Right now? 13" Byzance Dark Hats 18" Byzance Dark Crash 6" Zilbel 20" Zildjian Platinum Rock Ride 19" Sabian AAXplosion Normally, my full rig.

01-18-2008, 02:49 PM	#8
Daven Europa en LLAMAAAS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Spark From God Posts: 11,109	Dark Byzance = hot and sexy

03-09-2008, 09:03 AM	#9
thenamesaysitall crescentshoreline Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: frome , somerset, ENGLAND Posts: 58	i have a pair of 13" medium byzance hats and i do love them, i need to have play on a pair of darks though, the look is so damn cool

03-09-2008, 09:08 AM	#10
oliv_da_skinmasher MX Lover of Paistes Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The UK baby Posts: 10,385	Looks aint everything.

03-10-2008, 09:06 AM	#11
Datsuzoku Собратья по оружию Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Catterick Village, UK Posts: 270	Quite. But those are some attractive cymbals.

03-10-2008, 09:18 AM	#12
oliv_da_skinmasher MX Lover of Paistes Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The UK baby Posts: 10,385	Personally I find them repulsive lol Gimmie either of these two any day

03-10-2008, 10:25 AM	#13
Panopticon MXDP Stoner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Posts: 16,717	rudes are the ugliest cymbals EVER.

03-10-2008, 10:32 AM	#14
oliv_da_skinmasher MX Lover of Paistes Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The UK baby Posts: 10,385	I rather like em

03-10-2008, 10:58 AM	#15
Datsuzoku Собратья по оружию Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Catterick Village, UK Posts: 270	The rudes i've seen look fairly similar to Byzance darks. The only difference, to my eyes, is that rudes have a more uniform hammering pattern and an uglier logo.

03-10-2008, 08:34 PM	#16
Vannaroth So prog I clap in 9/8. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/Aberystwyth Posts: 2,449	I object to Turkish cymbals being named after Byzantium, what with them being enemies n all. Whatever, I want those hats.

03-11-2008, 02:19 PM	#17
thenamesaysitall crescentshoreline Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: frome , somerset, ENGLAND Posts: 58	im not a fan of that rude logo...

03-11-2008, 03:59 PM	#18
Harrow Sgnl_05 Emissions Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,605	I own these hats and I absolutely love them. I don't even play that much jazz but I like these regardless of what kind of music I am playing, they sound amazing at all times.