Sears Tower

apple pie · 06-22-2006, 10:06 PM

I just heard this on CNN, apperently a bunch of men were planning on doing aterriost attack on the Sears Tower, which is now the tallest building in North America.

MAthiAS · 06-22-2006, 10:08 PM

Better raise the terror alert level.

LittlePound · 06-22-2006, 10:13 PM

so, i guess they were caught if CNN knew about it...right? More info on the topic....

Against Miik! · 06-22-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MAthiAS

Better raise the terror alert level.

I never understood the terror alert. So the terror alert is raised to orange. What does that mean? Wear a sweater?

/rep to who can tell me where thats from

I'm sure its possible, but they CIA and the likes pick up hundreds of threats a day i'm sure. Basically none of them turn out to be true.

apple pie · 06-22-2006, 10:27 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/22/miami.raids/index.html

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Seven people are in custody after a sweep by law enforcement authorities in connection with an alleged plot against targets that may have included the Sears Tower, officials told CNN on Thursday.

Officials said no weapons or bomb-making materials had been found in the searches in the Miami area by FBI and state and local law enforcement officials. The city is under no imminent threat, according to the FBI.

Law enforcement sources told CNN that the arrests disrupted what may have been the early stages of a domestic terrorist plot to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, Illinois, the FBI building in Miami, and possibly other targets. (Watch details of the raids -- 2:53)

The 110-story Sears Tower is the world's third-tallest building and the tallest in North America.

Barbara Carley, managing director of the Sears Tower, said in a statement that "it would be inappropriate for us to confirm or deny details of news reports about federal law enforcement action before an official statement from the Justice Department.

"However, Sears Tower security officials regularly speak with the FBI and local law enforcement authorities who track and investigate terrorism threats. Today was no exception," she said. "Despite new information, law enforcement continues to tell us that they have never found evidence of a credible terrorism threat against Sears Tower that has gone beyond criminal discussions."

Law enforcement sources told CNN that some of the suspects are members of a radical African-American Muslim group and that at least one had taken "an al Qaeda oath." They had carried out surveillance on the Sears Tower and FBI building in Miami, the sources said.

Sources told CNN that the arrests culminated a monthslong undercover operation. The suspects believed they were dealing with an al Qaeda operative, but the person was actually a government informant, the sources said.

d0cuments related to the investigation have been sealed.

One of the arrests was made before Thursday, officials said, and one of Thursday's arrests took place in Atlanta, Georgia.

A spokeswoman for Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Alvarez said the mayor was notified of the raid earlier in the day, and a spokesman for Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said the governor had been notified Thursday morning.

Both Alvarez and Bush said they had no plans to tighten security.

"If anything, this is a plot foiled," Alvarez spokeswoman Vicki Mallette said.

Plans for a massive rally Friday in the city for the Miami Heat, the new National Basketball Association champions, are unchanged, she said, adding that 200,000 people were expected to attend.

The FBI said one search warrant was executed in a warehouse near a housing project in Liberty City, a predominantly black and low-income area of Miami.

Cedric Thomas, a co-owner of Thomas Produce Market, told the Miami Herald that the area around his store was teeming with federal agents.

''There is a ton of guys in uniforms moving around, blocking the streets. I'm not sure what they are doing,'' Thomas told the newspaper.

Residents living near the warehouse told The Associated Press that the men taken into custody called themselves Muslims and had tried to recruit young people.

The men slept in the warehouse, Tashawn Rose, 29, told the AP.

"They would come out late at night and exercise," she said. "It seemed like a military boot camp that they were working on there. They would come out and stand guard."

The residents told the AP that FBI agents spent several hours seeking information from people in the neighborhood. They said the suspects, who appeared to be in their teens or 20s, had lived in the area for about a year, the AP reported.

"We are conducting a number of arrests and searches, and we'll have more about that when the operation is completed, probably tomorrow morning," FBI Director Robert Mueller told CNN's Larry King in an interview broadcast Thursday night.

"Because it's an ongoing operation, we really can't get into details," Mueller said. "But whenever we undertake an operation like this, we would not do it without the approval of a judge. We've got search warrants and arrest warrants and the like. ...."

In a statement, the U.S. attorney's office in Miami said federal, state and local agencies made the arrests in connection with a domestic "terrorist-related matter."

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will hold a news conference Friday regarding the raids.

Scuba_Steve · 06-22-2006, 10:29 PM

isn't the CN tower taller than it?

EDIT: NVM, the cn tower is technically a "tower" not a "building".

Against Miik! · 06-22-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

isn't the CN tower taller than it?

Actually its the tallest in the world.

I think.

edit: oo good call. But the CN is the tallest TOWER in the world.

AA-12 · 06-22-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Al

I never understood the terror alert. So the terror alert is raised to orange. What does that mean? Wear a sweater?

/rep to who can tell me where thats from

I'm sure its possible, but they CIA and the likes pick up hundreds of threats a day i'm sure. Basically none of them turn out to be true.

Ron White \m/

Letto · 06-23-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MAthiAS

Better raise the terror alert level.

LOL. I'm convinced the level will never go below elevated until somebody abolishes the whole system. It's useless and just tries to keep people in fear.

Brewer14 · 06-23-2006, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Letto

LOL. I'm convinced the level will never go below elevated until somebody abolishes the whole system. It's useless and just tries to keep people in fear.

I never understood the whole system either.

Are we supposed to stay out home when the terror level raises? Wouldn't that be changing our lives because of a fear of terrorist attacks? Isn't that what they want?

Against Miik! · 06-23-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wotan

Ron White \m/

Lewis Black. sry

Jharaski · 06-23-2006, 12:50 AM

Lewis Black

edit - aw I was gonna try to see if I can sneak that in and just say aww, I didnt get it in in time but 5 minutes is too big of a gap

Against Miik! · 06-23-2006, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jharaski

Lewis Black

edit - aw I was gonna try to see if I can sneak that in and just say aww, I didnt get it in in time but 5 minutes is too big of a gap

meh i trust you. rep anyways

Seafroggys · 06-23-2006, 12:58 AM

the Sears Tower....*now* the tallest building in USA?

Its always been the tallest office building in the USA. The WTC towers in NYC were #2, and Empire State #3.

This is office buildings in the US ONLY, mind you.

Ghostfire3 · 06-23-2006, 02:38 AM

Yeah, I heard about this. Bad news about how they were planning to do that considering I live near Chicago.

pixiesfanyo · 06-24-2006, 12:45 AM

I've got an idea. Let's stop building giant buildings.

Then they won't have anything to target.

MAthiAS · 06-24-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pixiesfanyo

I've got an idea. Let's stop building giant buildings.

Then they won't have anything to target.

Nope, nothing.

Uberman · 06-25-2006, 12:53 PM

yeah just water supplies and stuff

griftadan · 06-25-2006, 12:54 PM

seriously, why don't they? thats a much better target than tall buildings.

LittlePound · 06-25-2006, 12:59 PM

yeah, but wouldn't it be much easier to recover from that, i mean, we have so many water supplies and etc. i mean, we could just get it from another city/state/lake/etc. Where, when you attack something like the world trade center, it sends a meaning, and there is only one (or in this case 2) of them.

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06-22-2006, 10:08 PM	#2
MAthiAS A Firestorm to Purify Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DC Posts: 10,717	Better raise the terror alert level.

06-22-2006, 10:13 PM	#3
LittlePound i want to tap your tenors Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: under HIS grace Posts: 2,869	so, i guess they were caught if CNN knew about it...right? More info on the topic....

06-22-2006, 10:27 PM	#5
apple pie B4-4 Fan Club #1 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,266	http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/22/miami.raids/index.html MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Seven people are in custody after a sweep by law enforcement authorities in connection with an alleged plot against targets that may have included the Sears Tower, officials told CNN on Thursday. Officials said no weapons or bomb-making materials had been found in the searches in the Miami area by FBI and state and local law enforcement officials. The city is under no imminent threat, according to the FBI. Law enforcement sources told CNN that the arrests disrupted what may have been the early stages of a domestic terrorist plot to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, Illinois, the FBI building in Miami, and possibly other targets. (Watch details of the raids -- 2:53) The 110-story Sears Tower is the world's third-tallest building and the tallest in North America. Barbara Carley, managing director of the Sears Tower, said in a statement that "it would be inappropriate for us to confirm or deny details of news reports about federal law enforcement action before an official statement from the Justice Department. "However, Sears Tower security officials regularly speak with the FBI and local law enforcement authorities who track and investigate terrorism threats. Today was no exception," she said. "Despite new information, law enforcement continues to tell us that they have never found evidence of a credible terrorism threat against Sears Tower that has gone beyond criminal discussions." Law enforcement sources told CNN that some of the suspects are members of a radical African-American Muslim group and that at least one had taken "an al Qaeda oath." They had carried out surveillance on the Sears Tower and FBI building in Miami, the sources said. Sources told CNN that the arrests culminated a monthslong undercover operation. The suspects believed they were dealing with an al Qaeda operative, but the person was actually a government informant, the sources said. d0cuments related to the investigation have been sealed. One of the arrests was made before Thursday, officials said, and one of Thursday's arrests took place in Atlanta, Georgia. A spokeswoman for Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Alvarez said the mayor was notified of the raid earlier in the day, and a spokesman for Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said the governor had been notified Thursday morning. Both Alvarez and Bush said they had no plans to tighten security. "If anything, this is a plot foiled," Alvarez spokeswoman Vicki Mallette said. Plans for a massive rally Friday in the city for the Miami Heat, the new National Basketball Association champions, are unchanged, she said, adding that 200,000 people were expected to attend. The FBI said one search warrant was executed in a warehouse near a housing project in Liberty City, a predominantly black and low-income area of Miami. Cedric Thomas, a co-owner of Thomas Produce Market, told the Miami Herald that the area around his store was teeming with federal agents. ''There is a ton of guys in uniforms moving around, blocking the streets. I'm not sure what they are doing,'' Thomas told the newspaper. Residents living near the warehouse told The Associated Press that the men taken into custody called themselves Muslims and had tried to recruit young people. The men slept in the warehouse, Tashawn Rose, 29, told the AP. "They would come out late at night and exercise," she said. "It seemed like a military boot camp that they were working on there. They would come out and stand guard." The residents told the AP that FBI agents spent several hours seeking information from people in the neighborhood. They said the suspects, who appeared to be in their teens or 20s, had lived in the area for about a year, the AP reported. "We are conducting a number of arrests and searches, and we'll have more about that when the operation is completed, probably tomorrow morning," FBI Director Robert Mueller told CNN's Larry King in an interview broadcast Thursday night. "Because it's an ongoing operation, we really can't get into details," Mueller said. "But whenever we undertake an operation like this, we would not do it without the approval of a judge. We've got search warrants and arrest warrants and the like. ...." In a statement, the U.S. attorney's office in Miami said federal, state and local agencies made the arrests in connection with a domestic "terrorist-related matter." Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will hold a news conference Friday regarding the raids.

06-22-2006, 10:29 PM	#6
Scuba_Steve Banned! At The Internets Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: K-Dubs Posts: 5,799	isn't the CN tower taller than it? EDIT: NVM, the cn tower is technically a "tower" not a "building".

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Jharaski No more lobster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hillsborough NJ Posts: 3,447	Lewis Black edit - aw I was gonna try to see if I can sneak that in and just say aww, I didnt get it in in time but 5 minutes is too big of a gap

06-23-2006, 12:58 AM	#14
Seafroggys Truffula Hugger Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edge of Nowhere Posts: 15,038	the Sears Tower....now the tallest building in USA? Its always been the tallest office building in the USA. The WTC towers in NYC were #2, and Empire State #3. This is office buildings in the US ONLY, mind you.

06-23-2006, 02:38 AM	#15
Ghostfire3 The Other One Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,485	Yeah, I heard about this. Bad news about how they were planning to do that considering I live near Chicago.

06-25-2006, 12:53 PM	#18
Uberman I'm unpopular! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 282	yeah just water supplies and stuff

06-25-2006, 12:54 PM	#19
griftadan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: lawrence, ks Posts: 5,629	seriously, why don't they? thats a much better target than tall buildings.

06-25-2006, 12:59 PM	#20
LittlePound i want to tap your tenors Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: under HIS grace Posts: 2,869	yeah, but wouldn't it be much easier to recover from that, i mean, we have so many water supplies and etc. i mean, we could just get it from another city/state/lake/etc. Where, when you attack something like the world trade center, it sends a meaning, and there is only one (or in this case 2) of them.