The God Who Wasn't There.

Berner · 06-22-2006, 12:06 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455507/

Has anyone else seen this d0cumentary? For those who have, what did you think of it? I'll wait for a few responses before I discuss the topic.

nowhesingsnowhesobs · 06-22-2006, 12:11 PM

I saw the trailer, and despite having Richard Carrier and Earl Doherty on board, it seemed like propagandistic rubbish.

Jude · 06-22-2006, 12:16 PM

From what I've heard it's just another bunch of atheists crying about how people follow religions. Heard it before.

nowhesingsnowhesobs · 06-22-2006, 12:30 PM

Err, no, its about Jesus. And more specifically, the possibility that he didn't exist.

But then again, Richard Dawkins appears, which probably makes it unwatchable.

halfdeadhippo · 06-22-2006, 12:41 PM

I've never seen this movie, and I'd never even heard about it until I saw this thread. However, after reading that IMDB page, I'm not really interested in seeing it. There's probably a bit of irony in a movie that tries to show that historical evidence can be twisted and spun to favor a certain opinion. But then again, I haven't seen the movie, so take that as you will.

Atomic Rain · 06-22-2006, 12:48 PM

Richard Dawkins is awesome!

No, I haven't seen it, although i'd like to.

Jude · 06-22-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nowhesingsnowhesobs

Err, no, its about Jesus. And more specifically, the possibility that he didn't exist.

Like I said, huh?

/doesn't have much respect for atheists when they get in preach mode

Atomic Rain · 06-22-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude

Like I said, huh?

/doesn't have much respect for atheists when they get in preach mode

me neither, to be honest. I like discussion so that people have heard all the facts, not attempts to convert. To me that's not what atheism is about at all.

However, atheists will enjoy learning some facts about jesus. so i'd say the filmisn't a bad idea.

Berner · 06-22-2006, 01:48 PM

Honestly if you just ignore some of the anti-christian bits and look at some of the historical facts, such as the time when the first gospel was written compared to the timeline from the bible and the fact that other saviour messiah myths were around at the time, it makes for an interesting watch none the less.

Spoonful of Shame · 06-22-2006, 01:49 PM

I have not seen this yet but I would like too. I have watched some clips from there website and it is definitely interesting.

StrangelyBrewed13 · 06-22-2006, 01:53 PM

i think it would be interesting but nothing above just that. People's opinions on religion wont be changed on a 2 hour long movie.

nowhesingsnowhesobs · 06-22-2006, 01:56 PM

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Richard Dawkins is awesome!

He's quite possibly the most irritating person I've ever seen presenting on TV.

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Like I said, huh?

no

Chrizzle fo' Shizzle · 06-22-2006, 03:11 PM

Everybody keeps saying "Richard Dawkins", and I keep thinking "[URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/RicharddawsonMG77c.jpg"]Richard Dawson[/url]"

As for the movie, meh. It sounds like every other d0cumentary I never watched

dislocated214 · 06-22-2006, 05:09 PM

I saw it. I thought it was somewhat good. More good then bad anyway. It should've been longer though. The part where he goes to his school is amazing. Also, the part where he asks Christians how Christianity spread ("through the holy spirit" lolz).

He's making a couple other religion-based movies. One of them has to do with a girl finding Jesus doesn't exist, while her father is a minister or something.

peeted · 06-22-2006, 05:15 PM

not seen it, sounds intresting though. from what i have heard though its just a load of atheists stumbeling upon evidence and debates that have been going on within the theological world for years and they have just presented them as proof of a lack of god.
still it looks intresting and worth waching.

Jude · 06-22-2006, 06:03 PM

Nevermind that even in the absence of hard evidence that Jesus existed, it makes way more sense to believe that he DID exist (even if you don't think he was God) than that some group of Jews spontaneously got together and created a whole intentional mythology about him and managed to convert lots of people with their story about a man nobody had ever actually seen.

Berner · 06-23-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jude

Nevermind that even in the absence of hard evidence that Jesus existed, it makes way more sense to believe that he DID exist (even if you don't think he was God) than that some group of Jews spontaneously got together and created a whole intentional mythology about him and managed to convert lots of people with their story about a man nobody had ever actually seen.

Just watch it before you criticize man.

Amit · 06-23-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jude

Nevermind that even in the absence of hard evidence that Jesus existed, it makes way more sense to believe that he DID exist (even if you don't think he was God) than that some group of Jews spontaneously got together and created a whole intentional mythology about him and managed to convert lots of people with their story about a man nobody had ever actually seen.

One word: scientology.

RNR · 06-23-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Atman

One word: scientology.

That's right. And Mormonism. Religion is a handy tool. I wish I had thought of it

Atomic Rain · 06-23-2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhesingsnowhesobs

He's quite possibly the most irritating person I've ever seen presenting on TV.

Nah.

Channel 4 were about lame about that rpogram

He was strongly against the name, for a start

06-22-2006, 12:06 PM	#1
Berner Aw, that soothes the fire Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Regina Saskatchewan. Posts: 10,637	The God Who Wasn't There. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455507/ Has anyone else seen this d0cumentary? For those who have, what did you think of it? I'll wait for a few responses before I discuss the topic.

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nowhesingsnowhesobs __ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,857	I saw the trailer, and despite having Richard Carrier and Earl Doherty on board, it seemed like propagandistic rubbish. Last edited by nowhesingsnowhesobs; 06-22-2006 at 12:13 PM.

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06-22-2006, 12:16 PM	#3
Jude 60 years Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Why is this grey piece of **** still here? Posts: 12,000	From what I've heard it's just another bunch of atheists crying about how people follow religions. Heard it before.

06-22-2006, 12:30 PM	#4
nowhesingsnowhesobs __ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,857	Err, no, its about Jesus. And more specifically, the possibility that he didn't exist. But then again, Richard Dawkins appears, which probably makes it unwatchable.

06-22-2006, 12:41 PM	#5
halfdeadhippo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,741	I've never seen this movie, and I'd never even heard about it until I saw this thread. However, after reading that IMDB page, I'm not really interested in seeing it. There's probably a bit of irony in a movie that tries to show that historical evidence can be twisted and spun to favor a certain opinion. But then again, I haven't seen the movie, so take that as you will.

06-22-2006, 12:48 PM	#6
Atomic Rain Do you know science? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,140	Richard Dawkins is awesome! No, I haven't seen it, although i'd like to.

06-22-2006, 01:48 PM	#9
Berner Aw, that soothes the fire Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Regina Saskatchewan. Posts: 10,637	Honestly if you just ignore some of the anti-christian bits and look at some of the historical facts, such as the time when the first gospel was written compared to the timeline from the bible and the fact that other saviour messiah myths were around at the time, it makes for an interesting watch none the less.

06-22-2006, 01:49 PM	#10
Spoonful of Shame Land of the Dead Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 447	I have not seen this yet but I would like too. I have watched some clips from there website and it is definitely interesting.

06-22-2006, 01:53 PM	#11
StrangelyBrewed13 This is bat country Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,534	i think it would be interesting but nothing above just that. People's opinions on religion wont be changed on a 2 hour long movie.

06-22-2006, 03:11 PM	#13
Chrizzle fo' Shizzle Its the groovicide bomber Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: she a stunna Posts: 4,796	Everybody keeps saying "Richard Dawkins", and I keep thinking "[URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/RicharddawsonMG77c.jpg"]Richard Dawson[/url]" As for the movie, meh. It sounds like every other d0cumentary I never watched

06-22-2006, 05:09 PM	#14
dislocated214 The Boogeyman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,666	I saw it. I thought it was somewhat good. More good then bad anyway. It should've been longer though. The part where he goes to his school is amazing. Also, the part where he asks Christians how Christianity spread ("through the holy spirit" lolz). He's making a couple other religion-based movies. One of them has to do with a girl finding Jesus doesn't exist, while her father is a minister or something.

06-22-2006, 05:15 PM	#15
peeted O.o Join Date: May 2004 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 5,389	not seen it, sounds intresting though. from what i have heard though its just a load of atheists stumbeling upon evidence and debates that have been going on within the theological world for years and they have just presented them as proof of a lack of god. still it looks intresting and worth waching.

06-22-2006, 06:03 PM	#16
Jude 60 years Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Why is this grey piece of **** still here? Posts: 12,000	Nevermind that even in the absence of hard evidence that Jesus existed, it makes way more sense to believe that he DID exist (even if you don't think he was God) than that some group of Jews spontaneously got together and created a whole intentional mythology about him and managed to convert lots of people with their story about a man nobody had ever actually seen.