Anarchism

ramoniac138 · 06-21-2006, 09:05 PM

The subject interests me, but I would really like to know abou the details concering MODERN anarchy in today's society...

like what exactly are anarchists against (EXAMPLES)?
what do they intend to do?
whats the alternative to the present system?!

help...discusss...THANKS!

Der Übermensch · 06-21-2006, 09:09 PM

Theres already a thread for this... do a search for it...

Der Übermensch · 06-21-2006, 09:10 PM

Or maybe i'll be nice and give you the link

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288507

ramoniac138 · 06-21-2006, 09:11 PM

thanks!

dislocated214 · 06-22-2006, 05:11 PM

If you enjoy reading.

http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/a/n.htm#anarchism

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/poverty-philosophy/

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/iwma/index.htm

nowhesingsnowhesobs · 06-22-2006, 05:34 PM

in short, they want everyone to be poorer

Der Übermensch · 06-22-2006, 05:43 PM

Don't trust anything that comes from a site with marxist in its name to have a good synopsis on Anarchism.

Pint of stella · 06-22-2006, 05:55 PM

Surprisingly there are many forms of anarchism. Such as:
Anarcho-Syndacism
Anarcho-Capitalism
Anarcho-Communism etc.
They come in many forms but the general idea is that a state does not exist. It was originally associated with the ideas of people living in communes. Generally there is no state and people have pure freedom of action. There is also a passive stance, where they don't harm others and treat each other like they would treat themselves. Anarchism was not originally associated with chaos, as people perceive it today. Misguided fools.

Der Übermensch · 06-22-2006, 06:29 PM

As I already pointed out, there is an offical thread for this, the point of which was to contain all debate on Anarchism, as well as to educate people to keep them from making dumb comments. I posted the link... Keep it there, as most questions posed here can probably be already answered there.

Ghostfire3 · 06-22-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pint of stella

Surprisingly there are many forms of anarchism. Such as:
Anarcho-Syndacism
Anarcho-Capitalism
Anarcho-Communism etc.
They come in many forms but the general idea is that a state does not exist. It was originally associated with the ideas of people living in communes. Generally there is no state and people have pure freedom of action. There is also a passive stance, where they don't harm others and treat each other like they would treat themselves. Anarchism was not originally associated with chaos, as people perceive it today. Misguided fools.

Anarcho-Capitalism? Wtf? I've heard of the others, but not that one. Explain what it is.

Pint of stella · 06-22-2006, 06:32 PM

We did it breifly, in politics class. Basically the market is unregulated as hell. I don't have a huge knowledge on it. Only really that it exists. I'm sure some website will have some info on it. I promise you that it exists, or existed.

Der Übermensch · 06-22-2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Anarcho-Capitalism? Wtf? I've heard of the others, but not that one. Explain what it is.

Ask it here and I'll answer

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288507

Ghostfire3 · 06-22-2006, 06:49 PM

Fine. Will do.

dislocated214 · 06-23-2006, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Das Übermensch

Don't trust anything that comes from a site with marxist in its name to have a good synopsis on Anarchism.

The Marxist links state what Anarchism is, what Anarchism and Marxism share, and why Anarchism fails without an intermediate stage. He/she seemed pro-anarchy, so I decided to shove some anti-Anarchy stuff with the old-school Marx vs Bakunin battles.

griftadan · 06-23-2006, 11:41 PM

anarchism is impossible, power hierarchies will always exist.

Zoroaster · 06-24-2006, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Surprisingly there are many forms of anarchism. Such as:
Anarcho-Syndacism
Anarcho-Capitalism
Anarcho-Communism etc.

Surprisingly, none of them have ever been implemented and, by the looks of things, never will be either. Having said that, I welcome you to explain why anarchism is justified given the welfare creation of capitalism and its unprecedented move to alleviate people out of poverty and the idleness that's inherent in any anarchist system.

monkeysonmars. · 06-24-2006, 05:44 AM

are you claiming it's thanks to capitalism that there's so little poverty?

Zoroaster · 06-24-2006, 06:02 AM

Quote:

are you claiming it's thanks to capitalism that there's so little poverty?

Of course I am.

monkeysonmars. · 06-24-2006, 06:09 AM

but surely if there were no political influences on capitalism we would have a greater poverty?

nowhesingsnowhesobs · 06-24-2006, 06:09 AM

no, why would you think that?

06-21-2006, 09:05 PM	#1
ramoniac138 9 Minutes of Non Fiction Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 142	Anarchism The subject interests me, but I would really like to know abou the details concering MODERN anarchy in today's society... like what exactly are anarchists against (EXAMPLES)? what do they intend to do? whats the alternative to the present system?! help...discusss...THANKS!

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Der Übermensch Best taken in moderation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: DC, via Maine Posts: 11,069	Theres already a thread for this... do a search for it...

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Der Übermensch Best taken in moderation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: DC, via Maine Posts: 11,069	Or maybe i'll be nice and give you the link http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288507

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ramoniac138 9 Minutes of Non Fiction Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 142	thanks!

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dislocated214 The Boogeyman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,666	If you enjoy reading. http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/a/n.htm#anarchism http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/poverty-philosophy/ http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/iwma/index.htm

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nowhesingsnowhesobs __ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,857	in short, they want everyone to be poorer

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Der Übermensch Best taken in moderation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: DC, via Maine Posts: 11,069	Don't trust anything that comes from a site with marxist in its name to have a good synopsis on Anarchism.

06-22-2006, 05:55 PM	#8
Pint of stella Drink? Oh YESSS!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South West of England Posts: 68	Surprisingly there are many forms of anarchism. Such as: Anarcho-Syndacism Anarcho-Capitalism Anarcho-Communism etc. They come in many forms but the general idea is that a state does not exist. It was originally associated with the ideas of people living in communes. Generally there is no state and people have pure freedom of action. There is also a passive stance, where they don't harm others and treat each other like they would treat themselves. Anarchism was not originally associated with chaos, as people perceive it today. Misguided fools.

06-22-2006, 06:29 PM	#9
Der Übermensch Best taken in moderation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: DC, via Maine Posts: 11,069	As I already pointed out, there is an offical thread for this, the point of which was to contain all debate on Anarchism, as well as to educate people to keep them from making dumb comments. I posted the link... Keep it there, as most questions posed here can probably be already answered there.

06-22-2006, 06:32 PM	#11
Pint of stella Drink? Oh YESSS!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South West of England Posts: 68	We did it breifly, in politics class. Basically the market is unregulated as hell. I don't have a huge knowledge on it. Only really that it exists. I'm sure some website will have some info on it. I promise you that it exists, or existed.

06-22-2006, 06:49 PM	#13
Ghostfire3 The Other One Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,485	Fine. Will do.

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griftadan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: lawrence, ks Posts: 5,630	anarchism is impossible, power hierarchies will always exist.

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monkeysonmars. RIP ~miss u always~ xx Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 727	are you claiming it's thanks to capitalism that there's so little poverty?

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monkeysonmars. RIP ~miss u always~ xx Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 727	but surely if there were no political influences on capitalism we would have a greater poverty?