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redparrot5446 · 06-13-2006, 11:13 PM

Today i was watching the news and they did a story on the let them rest in peace act which requires protesters to stamd at least 200 feet away from military furerals. i believe the law only exists in Illinois. i am not supporting the war but protesting at a funeral for someone that died for our country is just wrong. if youre going to protest the war you should do it in a place where someone responsible for war involvement can see you, not at a funeral of someone that has no voice in gov decisions. i also heard that the protesters are saying that the war casualties are punishments all of the gay couples in america.

Mr. Ron · 06-13-2006, 11:15 PM

Anyone who protests a funeral deserves to be stomped into a gut pile.

slash_bmxer09 · 06-13-2006, 11:55 PM

Yeah. The Westboro Baptist Church. I hate this whole thing. I remember seeing a thing where they said, "Gods wrath is spilling out over our heads through the death of our own from war." Something to that effect. Here is a link to theyre site.

[URL="http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html"]http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html[/url]

People need to ****ing stay out of other peoples buisness. I'm not gay, but If two men want to get married and have sex or whatever, LET THEM. If in your religion it says they will go to hell, then they are going to hell to you. Let them pay for what they're doing. I don't believe this because I'm atheist so I believe let them do what they want. Damn, people need to keep their thoughts to themselves.

Against Miik! · 06-14-2006, 12:32 AM

Well for people who feel that strongly about it you can't really blame them. I mean, it certainly is a way to be heard. We're talking about it, right? However, it does send the wrong message. I personally wouldn't protest at a funeral, however, I see no problem with it. This should be a very simple 1st ammendment case. They have the right to peaceful protest. The law sucks.

Mr. Ron · 06-14-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by i am miik

Well for people who feel that strongly about it you can't really blame them. I mean, it certainly is a way to be heard. We're talking about it, right? However, it does send the wrong message. I personally wouldn't protest at a funeral, however, I see no problem with it. This should be a very simple 1st ammendment case. They have the right to peaceful protest. The law sucks.

So if you had a relative that died in Iraq and some scumbags with signs that say he died because god hated him, you'd have no problem with that?

slash_bmxer09 · 06-14-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by i am miik

Well for people who feel that strongly about it you can't really blame them. I mean, it certainly is a way to be heard. We're talking about it, right? However, it does send the wrong message. I personally wouldn't protest at a funeral, however, I see no problem with it. This should be a very simple 1st ammendment case. They have the right to peaceful protest. The law sucks.

I don't see why they have to PROTEST at funerals in front of the families who have suffered enough with the death of a loved one. Why can't protest at a different time? What are they trying to change anyways? No matter what they do, there will probably always be gay couples. Even if it was made illegal, there will STILL be some somewhere else. Even if they hate the war, many people have hated the war, protested and nothing has changed. I just believe its wrong and disrespectful to be standing outside of a military funeral with a sign that says "God hates fags."

Against Miik! · 06-14-2006, 12:39 AM

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So if you had a relative that died in Iraq and some scumbags with signs that say he died because god hated him, you'd have no problem with that?

Well yeah, i'd be a little pissed. But now i'm gonna lay down one of those "thats what Americas all about" speeches. The troops are fighting for democracy. And if you support a democracy like ours, you gotta support our freedoms, one of which is freedom of assembly. So yes, initial reaction would be me=pissed off. But still, point being, they should be allowed to. You can't make a law that says you aren't allowed to piss people off.

Mr. Ron · 06-14-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by i am miik

Well yeah, i'd be a little pissed. But now i'm gonna lay down one of those "thats what Americas all about" speeches. The troops are fighting for democracy. And if you support a democracy like ours, you gotta support our freedoms, one of which is freedom of assembly. So yes, initial reaction would be me=pissed off. But still, point being, they should be allowed to. You can't make a law that says you aren't allowed to piss people off.

Meh, I guess you're right. I just think that anyone who would do this is not worthy of our freedoms.

Against Miik! · 06-14-2006, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slash_bmxer09

I don't see why they have to PROTEST at funerals in front of the families who have suffered enough with the death of a loved one. Why can't protest at a different time? What are they trying to change anyways? No matter what they do, there will probably always be gay couples. Even if it was made illegal, there will STILL be some somewhere else. Even if they hate the war, many people have hated the war, protested and nothing has changed. I just believe its wrong and disrespectful to be standing outside of a military funeral with a sign that says "God hates fags."

Yeah, I know. They are all pretty crazy. I don't support them. However, in this country, they have the right to peacefully assemble. Now you could go so far as to say that having signs saying "God hates Fags" isn't peaceful, but thats just crap. They aren't physically infringing on anybodys rights.

Against Miik! · 06-14-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ron

Meh, I guess you're right. I just think that anyone who would do this is not worthy of our freedoms.

They are exercising our freedoms to the fullest extent.

That being said, if somebody set them all on fire, I really wouldn't care.

slash_bmxer09 · 06-14-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by i am miik

Yeah, I know. They are all pretty crazy. I don't support them. However, in this country, they have the right to peacefully assemble. Now you could go so far as to say that having signs saying "God hates Fags" isn't peaceful, but thats just crap. They aren't physically infringing on anybodys rights.

Yeah, your right. I just believe that they should protest some where else other than a military funeral. Thats just disrespectful. Yes its a right give to us, but come on, its just disrespectful.

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That being said, if somebody set them all on fire, I really wouldn't care.

Haha. I think we should keep pissing them off, and drive them to commit some kind of illegal act (ala hit someone or something) and get them arrested. DUE PROCESS, will take that right away.

EDIT: Ok, come on I don't really MEAN that. I'm just joking.

Against Miik! · 06-14-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by slash_bmxer09

Yeah, your right. I just believe that they should protest some where else other than a military funeral. Thats just disrespectful. Yes its a right give to us, but come on, its just disrespectful.

But not against the law. Fuck Illinois, not the protestors, for being Unamerican.

***Smokey D*** · 06-14-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ron

Meh, I guess you're right. I just think that anyone who would do this is not worthy of our freedoms.

I love how you think the only people deserving of human and civil liberties to those who do not use them and not think yourself a hypocrite.

Against Miik! · 06-14-2006, 12:48 AM

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I love how you think the only people deserving of human and civil liberties to those who do not use them and not think yourself a hypocrite.

rephrase possibly?

Mr. Ron · 06-14-2006, 12:49 AM

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I love how you think the only people deserving of human and civil liberties to those who do not use them and not think yourself a hypocrite.

Oh, they can use them and they'll have my boot up their butts if they exercise them around me.

slash_bmxer09 · 06-14-2006, 12:52 AM

Ehh, I'm with you on the whole "military funeral protesting" thing, but your hurting them for using theyre rights to the fullest potential. That means the government can take away yours. At least temporarily.

***Smokey D*** · 06-14-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ron

Oh, they can use them and they'll have my boot up their butts if they exercise them around me.

Protecting the rights of those you agree with defeats the purpose of having rights at all.

Though in this case I'd be inclined to agree with you.

griftadan · 06-14-2006, 02:14 AM

violation of the first ammendmant.

PerpetualBurn · 06-14-2006, 04:43 AM

I'd quite like someone from God Hates Fags to lose a family member and for someone to arrange for a huge gay orgy at the funeral.

~~coheneran~~ · 06-14-2006, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ron

Anyone who protests a funeral deserves to be stomped into a gut pile.

I would demonstrate at Nick Griffin, Margaret Thatcher and Hitler's funerals.

06-13-2006, 11:13 PM	#1
redparrot5446 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6	rip act Today i was watching the news and they did a story on the let them rest in peace act which requires protesters to stamd at least 200 feet away from military furerals. i believe the law only exists in Illinois. i am not supporting the war but protesting at a funeral for someone that died for our country is just wrong. if youre going to protest the war you should do it in a place where someone responsible for war involvement can see you, not at a funeral of someone that has no voice in gov decisions. i also heard that the protesters are saying that the war casualties are punishments all of the gay couples in america.

06-13-2006, 11:55 PM	#3
slash_bmxer09 Yeah, I hate you. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 358	Yeah. The Westboro Baptist Church. I hate this whole thing. I remember seeing a thing where they said, "Gods wrath is spilling out over our heads through the death of our own from war." Something to that effect. Here is a link to theyre site. [URL="http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html"]http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html[/url] People need to ***ing stay out of other peoples buisness. I'm not gay, but If two men want to get married and have sex or whatever, LET THEM. If in your religion it says they will go to hell, then they are going to hell to you. Let them pay for what they're doing. I don't believe this because I'm atheist so I believe let them do what they want. Damn, people need to keep their thoughts to themselves. Last edited by slash_bmxer09; 06-13-2006 at 11:58 PM.*

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06-13-2006, 11:15 PM	#2
Mr. Ron Es lebe die Freiheit! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mr. Ron & Sons Inc.™ Posts: 49,269	Anyone who protests a funeral deserves to be stomped into a gut pile.

06-14-2006, 12:32 AM	#4
Against Miik! Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Athens Posts: 18,242	Well for people who feel that strongly about it you can't really blame them. I mean, it certainly is a way to be heard. We're talking about it, right? However, it does send the wrong message. I personally wouldn't protest at a funeral, however, I see no problem with it. This should be a very simple 1st ammendment case. They have the right to peaceful protest. The law sucks.

06-14-2006, 12:52 AM	#16
slash_bmxer09 Yeah, I hate you. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 358	Ehh, I'm with you on the whole "military funeral protesting" thing, but your hurting them for using theyre rights to the fullest potential. That means the government can take away yours. At least temporarily.

06-14-2006, 02:14 AM	#18
griftadan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: lawrence, ks Posts: 5,629	violation of the first ammendmant.

06-14-2006, 04:43 AM	#19
PerpetualBurn Like a greasy chip butty Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Highway 61 (again) Posts: 9,447	I'd quite like someone from God Hates Fags to lose a family member and for someone to arrange for a huge gay orgy at the funeral.