Palestinian hostilities

[Reaganista]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/12/mideast/index.html

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Palestinian security forces were on high alert Monday after Palestinian Authority and Hamas security forces clashed in Rafah, resulting in two deaths.

Hamas forces also fired shots at a government building in Rafah.

In response, Fatah supporters set fire to a building used by the Hamas-led government in Ramallah. That fire was later brought under control.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas put the forces on high alert and deployed security forces around ministries in Ramallah to protect them.

Abbas is in Gaza for meetings with Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and other officials on Abbas' proposal to hold a referendum that would implicitly recognize Israel's right to exist.

Hamas refused to support the plan, drawn up by Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. The Hamas charter calls for Israel's destruction.

Abbas has called for the nonbinding referendum to be held on July 26. The proposal calls for a two-state solution, with the Palestinian state made up of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem within the borders that existed before the 1967 war with Israel.

Among the prisoners who drafted the plan backed by Abbas are Fatah secretary-general Marwan Barghouti and Abdel Halek Natshe of Hamas.

The Hamas-dominated Palestinian parliament met to consider a proposal to void the referendum, but put off action to allow more negotiations between Abbas and Hamas.

The tensions turned violent earlier in the day in Rafah during a funeral for a Hamas member. When Hamas special forces clashed with Palestinian Authority security forces, a civilian and a Hamas gunman were killed.

Abbas and Haniyeh also met on Sunday. Afterward, Palestinian Interior Minister Said Sayam, a member of Hamas, said Monday's session with Abbas would also include representatives from Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the Palestinian Popular Front in an effort to end factional strife between the two main Palestinian parties.

Abbas, a member of the late President Yasser Arafat's Fatah Party, has been largely hamstrung in his efforts to wield power since Hamas took control of the Parliament in elections in January.

The focus of the meetings was to find ways for Hamas and Fatah to cooperate, Sayam said.

During their Sunday discussion, no agreement was reached on Abbas' referendum proposal.

Taysser Khaled, a representative of the Palestinian Democratic Front, told reporters Abbas and Haniyeh discussed Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's plan to include parts of the West Bank within Israel's permanent borders.

Hamas, which the United States and European Union list as a terrorist organization, has refused to meet Western demands to renounce violence and recognize the Jewish state's right to exist.

The United States, European Union and Israel have cut direct funding to the Hamas-led government that assumed power March 30, although humanitarian aid is to be donated through nongovernmental organizations.

More rockets land in Israel
Five Qassam rockets landed on the Israeli side of the Gaza border Monday morning, causing no injuries or significant damage, the Israel Defense Forces said.

The Monday launches followed a series of at least 70 rockets fired into Israel from Gaza since Friday, wounding four Israeli civilians, the Israeli forces said.

Two rockets landed near the security fence separating Gaza from Israel and three others landed near an Israeli community, the IDF said.

On Saturday, Hamas' military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, said it had resumed rocket strikes against Israel after a hiatus of more than a year.

That announcement came in the wake of an artillery shell blast that killed eight Palestinians as they picnicked on a beach in northern Gaza on Friday.

The incident sparked international outrage after news programs broadcast footage of a hysterical 7-year-old girl who survived the attack, which killed her family members.

zero and the end: GO GO GO

[coheneran]

Typical Mufazist tactics; uncalled for provocation of terrorist groups during a cease fire, albeit an unofficial one. What did they expect would happen if they bombed a commercial beach?

[Reaganista]

huh

israel had nothing to do with this

and the beach bombing happened afterwards

[coheneran]

Originally Posted by The Tway

huh

israel had nothing to do with this

and the beach bombing happened afterwards

Oh.

Typical Hamas provocation, didn't they think Israel would retaliate to a bunch of missiles that landed in a field!?

[free_thinkers_are_dangerous]

I'm always amazed when I see headlines like "100 rockets fired at Israel" or "hundreds of security forces clash" and then the sub-headline is "2 injuries; no deaths". These people must aim like stormtroopers in Star Wars.

[coheneran]

Originally Posted by free_thinkers_are_dangerous

I'm always amazed when I see headlines like "100 rockets fired at Israel" or "hundreds of security forces clash" and then the sub-headline is "2 injuries; no deaths". These people must aim like stormtroopers in Star Wars.

Which contrasts strongly with the headline "Israeli Kindergarten Turfwar: 83 Dead, 13 Injured." Those Israeli kids are trained killers.

[free_thinkers_are_dangerous]

That's not what I was saying, but if you want to extrapolate for no particular reason other than to take a swipe at Israel, go ahead.

[coheneran]

Geez, take a joke. You really think Israeli toddlers have gang warfare?

[Hababi]

Hey, remember that BS story about lying Palestinians claiming Israel killed innocent civilians? Turns out it was total bunk. The deaths were a result of Palestinian action.

And this shows that the Palestinians aren't ready to have an independent government. Send the Jordanians back to Jordan

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

Send the Jordanians back to Jordan

hahaha

[coheneran]

Originally Posted by Broadway Danny Rose

Hey, remember that BS story about lying Palestinians claiming Israel killed innocent civilians? Turns out it was total bunk. The deaths were a result of Palestinian action.

Are you talking about the Gaza beach attack? Umm, that was Israel, contrary to how much the IDF deny it. There was an Israeli navy boat off the coast for days after th bombing, and an ex-CIA military expert who looked at the beach and the shell fragments confirmed that it was an Israeli shell shot from a howitzer, I forget the exact caliber gauge.

[The End]

Originally Posted by Broadway Danny Rose

Hey, remember that BS story about lying Palestinians claiming Israel killed innocent civilians? Turns out it was total bunk. The deaths were a result of Palestinian action.

And this shows that the Palestinians aren't ready to have an independent government. Send the Jordanians back to Jordan

umm yes they are actually who are you to say they aren't?

[Hababi]

Are you talking about the Gaza beach attack? Umm, that was Israel, contrary to how much the IDF deny it. There was an Israeli navy boat off the coast for days after th bombing, and an ex-CIA military expert who looked at the beach and the shell fragments confirmed that it was an Israeli shell shot from a howitzer, I forget the exact caliber gauge.

Here's the problem: The IDF conducted a thorough investigation and found that the claims were complete BS. You do realize that this is typical Palestinian propaganda--kill, intentionally or accidentally, their own people and then blame Israel for it? No legit (non HATEEVILJEWISHZIONISTS.COM) is casting any doubt on the investigation, and there's no reason to.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

It's not like the IDF has anything to gain in finding that they are free of any responsibility...

[coheneran]

Originally Posted by Broadway Danny Rose

Here's the problem: The IDF conducted a thorough investigation and found that the claims were complete BS. You do realize that this is typical Palestinian propaganda--kill, intentionally or accidentally, their own people and then blame Israel for it? No legit (non HATEEVILJEWISHZIONISTS.COM) is casting any doubt on the investigation, and there's no reason to.

Apart from Human Rights Watch, who are a neutral human rights organisation, NOT a part of Islamic Jihad, contrary to what you tell yourself a night. Their ex-CIA military expert was actually at the scene and could survey the evidence. On the other hand, we have the extensive report from the IDF, and the Israeli government has a lot at stake, especially a reputation they've been building on since the Gaza Withdrawl Plan was announced. Plus, the IDF didn't get to inspect the scene, so all we have is their word that it wasn't them. On the other hand, even I saw a battleship off the Gaza coast when I was watching the BBC news report on it.

As for your accusation that Palestinians kill other Palestinians to make the world feel sorry for them, that's just ridiculous, think about what that means and entails.

[Hababi]

Apart from Human Rights Watch, who are a neutral human rights organisation,

They're not neutral. They're rabidly anti Jewish propaganda merchants and liars who should be sued. They're hacks for radical Islam.

As for your accusation that Palestinians kill other Palestinians to make the world feel sorry for them, that's just ridiculous, think about what that means and entails.

It entails that they don't care about their own.

[Reaganista]

They're not neutral. They're rabidly anti Jewish propaganda merchants and liars who should be sued. They're hacks for radical Islam.

this is funny.

[coheneran]

Originally Posted by Broadway Danny Rose

They're not neutral. They're rabidly anti Jewish propaganda merchants and liars who should be sued. They're hacks for radical Islam.

Of course. Wanna back that up with some sort of proof?

It entails that they don't care about their own.

For the Palestinians to be like that, not only does my experience with them have to be completely false, it also means that they are inherently different to other humans, which is just bullcrap. I have Palestinian friends who have stood between me and a soldier's club so I don't get hit, and I would gladly do the same for them. I know, they are monsters aren't they?

[Hababi]

http://www.ngo-monitor.org/archives/infofile.htm#hrw

Organizations like this deserve to be outed for the neo Nazi shells they are.

[Reaganista]

this is hilarious seeing as how often HRW is lambasted as neo-conservative amerika-apologists

I suppose freedumb house hates jews too now