Drug addiction

KurtCobain2902 · 06-08-2006, 06:01 PM

I know drug threads aren't aloud, but this one is different, and I'm putting it in here to try and get some serious responses. I was just wondering who on here has had a drug problem, what drug they used, and how they decided to get help. I have a friend who is getting more and more into it, and he really wants to stop, but he can't. If he isn't high on something, he's not happy. What should he do?

Share your experiences.

WhoDidTheElf · 06-08-2006, 06:13 PM

Well my uncle used to be a crack/pot addict. He was the same way as your friend. If he wasn't high he wasn't any thing nice to be arround. So my friends mom said lets take him to church. I put it off for over a year (asking him to come), since he wasn't any wear near the religious type.

One week I decided to ask him, and to my supprise he decided to go. So we whent, and that sunday our pastor was talking about his life before he became a Christian. He was an alcoholic, and a drug user. He talked about his life and how becoming a Christian turned him around. So my uncle hearing this decided to try this church thing. He ended up going about every other day and joined their drug rehab program. Which was a an awesome place up in the mountains and had really good fishing (he's huge on fishing) and after about a year and half (longest year and half of his life he said), he'd kicked it. He now shares his experiances with others who are at the rehab and at church when people ask about it.

-1up!- · 06-08-2006, 06:21 PM

I don't have a long time experience with cannabis, having started to consume it on a regular basis about a year ago; though I have the impression something's "missing" when I haven't smoked pot for a couple of days (I smoke marijuana pretty much daily, but it's the only thing I smoke except the weekly cigar). I don't get any physical addiction reactions, only sometimes this: "hey... I'd smoke a joint" feeling.

Some things don't help, though. There are some activities which I prefer doing when high, such as going to the movies or to a music show. To the point where going to the movie theater NOT high feels... not normal. I'm a very trippy and easygoing person, and being high is a pleasure I would rather not deprive myself of.

Hutch306 · 06-09-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by -1up!-

I'm a very trippy and easygoing person, and being high is a pleasure I would rather not deprive myself of.

You make it sound so wonderful, yet I still somehow know that it ruins people...

Reaganista · 06-09-2006, 12:23 AM

drug use is the ultimate in capitalist indulgence

ok maybe department stores

but drug use is second

Mr. Ron · 06-09-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain2902

I know drug threads aren't aloud, but this one is different, and I'm putting it in here to try and get some serious responses. I was just wondering who on here has had a drug problem, what drug they used, and how they decided to get help. I have a friend who is getting more and more into it, and he really wants to stop, but he can't. If he isn't high on something, he's not happy. What should he do?

Share your experiences.

Sounds like your friend has a chemical imbalance.

Samuel · 06-09-2006, 07:39 AM

Make sure he tries a variety of approaches if he has a hard time kicking. Different people respond to different treatments. Also, different programs with the same type of treatment will have different views. Some people work well in the 12 step programs, spiritual based or secular. Some people work better on a one on one basis with a psychologist or psychiatrist, and an antidepressant to treat some of the underlying causes. And of course, there's always the retreat rehabs.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ron

Sounds like your friend has a chemical imbalance.

First thing I thought too.

If I were to be a clever dick online MD, then I'd tell him to see a psychiatrist and try medications.

Amit · 06-09-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDidTheElf

Well my uncle used to be a crack/pot addict. He was the same way as your friend. If he wasn't high he wasn't any thing nice to be arround. So my friends mom said lets take him to church. I put it off for over a year (asking him to come), since he wasn't any wear near the religious type.

One week I decided to ask him, and to my supprise he decided to go. So we whent, and that sunday our pastor was talking about his life before he became a Christian. He was an alcoholic, and a drug user. He talked about his life and how becoming a Christian turned him around. So my uncle hearing this decided to try this church thing. He ended up going about every other day and joined their drug rehab program. Which was a an awesome place up in the mountains and had really good fishing (he's huge on fishing) and after about a year and half (longest year and half of his life he said), he'd kicked it. He now shares his experiances with others who are at the rehab and at church when people ask about it.

Marijuana isn't addictive.

Mr. Ron · 06-09-2006, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Atman

Marijuana isn't addictive.

You know, i've heard that a lot. Is that really true?

~~The Wizard of Oz~~ · 06-09-2006, 08:37 AM

Marijuanna is addictive like some computer games are. They don't physically force you to play them, but some people get physcologically dependant on them.

-1up!- · 06-09-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hutch306

You make it sound so wonderful, yet I still somehow know that it ruins people...

It's wonderful for me. I feel drugs are wonderful when you do them smartly, except if you get to the heavy stuff which makes you addicted really easily - I won't get into crystal meth and such.

Yep, drugs ruin people. I'm not encouraging anyone to do them. I see drugs as a thin rope; sure you can walk on it if you're really careful. One bad step and you might fall, though.

ringworm · 06-09-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by -1up!-

I don't have a long time experience with cannabis, having started to consume it on a regular basis about a year ago; though I have the impression something's "missing" when I haven't smoked pot for a couple of days (I smoke marijuana pretty much daily, but it's the only thing I smoke except the weekly cigar). I don't get any physical addiction reactions, only sometimes this: "hey... I'd smoke a joint" feeling.

Pretty much the same situation here except I have a long time experience with it.
Everynow & then I drop it just to take a slight break from it.
If the worst thing someone can say about me at my funeral is, "well, he liked his mary jane". I can live with that.

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Originally Posted by -1up!-

Some things don't help, though. There are some activities which I prefer doing when high, such as going to the movies or to a music show. To the point where going to the movie theater NOT high feels... not normal.

Same here

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wizard of Oz

Marijuanna is addictive like some computer games are. They don't physically force you to play them, but some people get physcologically dependant on them.

Exactly.
Some people can control a habit, some can't. But it's not physically addictive.

Wolf- · 06-09-2006, 12:44 PM

SWIM had great times on drugs. But like someone said in this thread, doing drugs is a rope, and it's way too easy to fall into the depths. Being a drug user is not recommended for everyone. You need to have a very strong will, and stand by your principles. If you play the game by the right rules, the risk if minimal and you can have a great time. Of course you will have bad times on drugs, but then again, you've probably had a bad relationship too in the past. Are you giving up p u ssy? I don't think so.

Reaganista · 06-09-2006, 12:46 PM

a principled drug user is a laughable concept
bolivian, columbian and other proletarians live through hell on earth so you can get high

unless you grow it yourself. your material excesses still make you an eichman, but your drug use not particularly moreso than anything else.

Wolf- · 06-09-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tway

a principled drug user is a laughable concept
bolivian, columbian and other proletarians live through hell on earth so you can get high

unless you grow it yourself. your material excesses still make you an eichman, but your drug use not particularly moreso than anything else.

Does it matter? The only thing that matters is being happy until the day you die. I believe drugs have done some good things for everyone of us.

Mr. Ron · 06-09-2006, 01:09 PM

Personally, I think we would all be better off without any drugs (save the helpful ones). They always have negative aspects in the end, no way in getting around it.

DBoons Ghost · 06-09-2006, 01:12 PM

Interesting takes so far.

Meh. Drugs aint all that bad. Use don't abuse should be your motto. People who use drugs to escape something are done for from the get. Then again, why else use them? Recreation? Yeah that's a totall cop out folks.

I've done just about everything, and I still smoke some pot here and there, and I never fell apart or got hooked on anything really, and my life is peachy. My offspring are healthy, and I flourished in my career, and I have no health problems at all. I smoked pot for close to 20 years now. So.. Who's to say?

It's lack of education all around. Just say no and drugs are bad and all that.. Yeah that's great, but if you want to experiment a little and are going on bad and ignorant information, what's the point? Drugs are truly bad for you though. Not to mention the fact that in the US, they are illegal. That's really it. Most people feel that rehab centers have at the very least employed a lot of people, but the help they provide shouldn't have ever had to happen in the first place.

Reaganista · 06-09-2006, 01:27 PM

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Does it matter? The only thing that matters is being happy until the day you die. I believe drugs have done some good things for everyone of us.

damn bourgeois muth****a, you're an accessory to the deaths of thousands and all you can say is 'it makes me happy'?

you disgust me, you have no right whatsoever to enslave and slaughter south americans for your own personal enjoyment

thunderzstruck · 06-09-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tway

damn bourgeois muth****a, you're an accessory to the deaths of thousands and all you can say is 'it makes me happy'?

you disgust me, you have no right whatsoever to enslave and slaughter south americans for your own personal enjoyment

you're quite annoying lately

noone really cares

Reaganista · 06-09-2006, 01:51 PM

shut up eichman

06-08-2006, 06:01 PM	#1
KurtCobain2902 Goodbye my friend it's hard to die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York Posts: 3,326	Drug addiction I know drug threads aren't aloud, but this one is different, and I'm putting it in here to try and get some serious responses. I was just wondering who on here has had a drug problem, what drug they used, and how they decided to get help. I have a friend who is getting more and more into it, and he really wants to stop, but he can't. If he isn't high on something, he's not happy. What should he do? Share your experiences.

06-08-2006, 06:21 PM	#3
-1up!- Postmodern unwillingly Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 2,152	I don't have a long time experience with cannabis, having started to consume it on a regular basis about a year ago; though I have the impression something's "missing" when I haven't smoked pot for a couple of days (I smoke marijuana pretty much daily, but it's the only thing I smoke except the weekly cigar). I don't get any physical addiction reactions, only sometimes this: "hey... I'd smoke a joint" feeling. Some things don't help, though. There are some activities which I prefer doing when high, such as going to the movies or to a music show. To the point where going to the movie theater NOT high feels... not normal. I'm a very trippy and easygoing person, and being high is a pleasure I would rather not deprive myself of. Last edited by -1up!-; 06-08-2006 at 06:23 PM.

06-09-2006, 12:44 PM	#13
Wolf- Punk, rock and a guitar Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 735	SWIM had great times on drugs. But like someone said in this thread, doing drugs is a rope, and it's way too easy to fall into the depths. Being a drug user is not recommended for everyone. You need to have a very strong will, and stand by your principles. If you play the game by the right rules, the risk if minimal and you can have a great time. Of course you will have bad times on drugs, but then again, you've probably had a bad relationship too in the past. Are you giving up p u ssy? I don't think so. Last edited by Wolf-; 06-09-2006 at 12:52 PM.

06-09-2006, 12:46 PM	#14
Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,158	a principled drug user is a laughable concept bolivian, columbian and other proletarians live through hell on earth so you can get high unless you grow it yourself. your material excesses still make you an eichman, but your drug use not particularly moreso than anything else. Last edited by Reaganista; 06-09-2006 at 12:48 PM.

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06-08-2006, 06:13 PM	#2
WhoDidTheElf ^can't tune to C# right.. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CA, USA Posts: 3,368	Well my uncle used to be a crack/pot addict. He was the same way as your friend. If he wasn't high he wasn't any thing nice to be arround. So my friends mom said lets take him to church. I put it off for over a year (asking him to come), since he wasn't any wear near the religious type. One week I decided to ask him, and to my supprise he decided to go. So we whent, and that sunday our pastor was talking about his life before he became a Christian. He was an alcoholic, and a drug user. He talked about his life and how becoming a Christian turned him around. So my uncle hearing this decided to try this church thing. He ended up going about every other day and joined their drug rehab program. Which was a an awesome place up in the mountains and had really good fishing (he's huge on fishing) and after about a year and half (longest year and half of his life he said), he'd kicked it. He now shares his experiances with others who are at the rehab and at church when people ask about it.

06-09-2006, 12:23 AM	#5
Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,158	drug use is the ultimate in capitalist indulgence ok maybe department stores but drug use is second

06-09-2006, 08:37 AM	#10
~~The Wizard of Oz~~ Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Emerald City Posts: 284	Marijuanna is addictive like some computer games are. They don't physically force you to play them, but some people get physcologically dependant on them.

06-09-2006, 01:09 PM	#16
Mr. Ron Es lebe die Freiheit! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mr. Ron & Sons Inc.™ Posts: 49,268	Personally, I think we would all be better off without any drugs (save the helpful ones). They always have negative aspects in the end, no way in getting around it.

06-09-2006, 01:12 PM	#17
DBoons Ghost Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19,289	Interesting takes so far. Meh. Drugs aint all that bad. Use don't abuse should be your motto. People who use drugs to escape something are done for from the get. Then again, why else use them? Recreation? Yeah that's a totall cop out folks. I've done just about everything, and I still smoke some pot here and there, and I never fell apart or got hooked on anything really, and my life is peachy. My offspring are healthy, and I flourished in my career, and I have no health problems at all. I smoked pot for close to 20 years now. So.. Who's to say? It's lack of education all around. Just say no and drugs are bad and all that.. Yeah that's great, but if you want to experiment a little and are going on bad and ignorant information, what's the point? Drugs are truly bad for you though. Not to mention the fact that in the US, they are illegal. That's really it. Most people feel that rehab centers have at the very least employed a lot of people, but the help they provide shouldn't have ever had to happen in the first place.

06-09-2006, 01:51 PM	#20
Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,158	shut up eichman