Question of the Week

Der Übermensch · 06-03-2006, 10:11 AM

Ok, here's an idea I had... Approx. Every Week, I'm going to post an extremely vauge, open ended, philosophical question, for which people can answer.
It works like this. When you post it, don't scroll down and look at what other people have posted, as I'm not looking for refutations or anything, I just want open thoughts on the matter... a sentence, or maybe a paragraph... just a short aphorism, not a entire tract.
This also isn't really for discussion on the matter, more just a statement, although I guess argument's on it will be inevitable.
If this one works, then i'll keep doing this... if not, then ... not...

so, What is Truth?

ashman · 06-03-2006, 12:34 PM

Good idea

Truth is Subjective.

griftadan · 06-03-2006, 12:36 PM

fact is objective, truth is not. both involve accurate observations, though.

~~BassRevelation1029~~ · 06-03-2006, 12:50 PM

Hard to define something we hear everyday. I'll just say that truth is absolute.

PerpetualBurn · 06-03-2006, 01:04 PM

Not often I agree with BassRevelations, but I do. Truth to me is objective and absolute - if it wasn't, it would be an illusion at best.

ashman · 06-03-2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerpetualBurn

Not often I agree with BassRevelations, but I do. Truth to me is objective and absolute - if it wasn't, it would be an illusion at best.

What we take as true is nothing more then an illussion. What we sense is nothing more then interpretations of electrical impulses our brain picks up.

peeted · 06-03-2006, 01:12 PM

how can truth be subjective? shurley if something is subjective then it cant be a truth in itself?

lfantwister · 06-03-2006, 01:28 PM

There is no truth. And that's the truth.

JBJ · 06-03-2006, 03:10 PM

Smoking-related illnesses remain the number one preventable cause of death in the United States, killing more than 440,000 people each year.

italic zero · 06-03-2006, 03:30 PM

There is subjective and objective truth.

thedeadwalk! · 06-03-2006, 03:50 PM

Truth is the simplicity which you believe.

06-03-2006, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashman

What we take as true is nothing more then an illussion. What we sense is nothing more then interpretations of electrical impulses our brain picks up.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Regardless of what your brain perceives, there is always an absolute truth. Its absoluteness is not put into question by how people attempt to view it.

Reaganista · 06-03-2006, 04:20 PM

fact or reality

***superpeer*** · 06-03-2006, 04:36 PM

Truth is whatever one believes to be true, simple.

Atomic Rain · 06-03-2006, 04:39 PM

Truth is a name we give to what we believe in.

PerpetualBurn · 06-03-2006, 04:41 PM

You can believe in something that isn't true.

Atomic Rain · 06-03-2006, 04:54 PM

of course, but it's true to you.

Ask a schizophrenic if the government are hunting him down he'll say "yes", ask him if he's telling the truth, he'll say "yes", ask you, you'll say "no"

neither is lieing since lieing imples intentful deception so both are telling the truth, in their own way

Reaganista · 06-03-2006, 05:10 PM

god damn you're stupid

and that's the truth

Atomic Rain · 06-03-2006, 05:12 PM

It must be the eurocommie society I was brought up in, eh?

Truth is an entirely human construct.

PerpetualBurn · 06-03-2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic Rain

of course, but it's true to you.

Ask a schizophrenic if the government are hunting him down he'll say "yes", ask him if he's telling the truth, he'll say "yes", ask you, you'll say "no"

neither is lieing since lieing imples intentful deception so both are telling the truth, in their own way

Since the events are mutually exclusive (i.e he is either being chased or not chased and there is no in between) only one person is right. There is only one truth.

06-03-2006, 10:11 AM	#1
Der Übermensch Best taken in moderation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: DC, via Maine Posts: 11,064	Question of the Week Ok, here's an idea I had... Approx. Every Week, I'm going to post an extremely vauge, open ended, philosophical question, for which people can answer. It works like this. When you post it, don't scroll down and look at what other people have posted, as I'm not looking for refutations or anything, I just want open thoughts on the matter... a sentence, or maybe a paragraph... just a short aphorism, not a entire tract. This also isn't really for discussion on the matter, more just a statement, although I guess argument's on it will be inevitable. If this one works, then i'll keep doing this... if not, then ... not... so, What is Truth?

06-03-2006, 04:36 PM	#14
*superpeer* thank god f♥r little girl Supermod Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 28,668	Truth is whatever one believes to be true, simple. __________________ Give the memories time to blossom into regret

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06-03-2006, 12:34 PM	#2
ashman Oh Mein handy Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,531	Good idea Truth is Subjective.

06-03-2006, 12:36 PM	#3
griftadan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: lawrence, ks Posts: 5,629	fact is objective, truth is not. both involve accurate observations, though.

06-03-2006, 12:50 PM	#4
~~BassRevelation1029~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,632	Hard to define something we hear everyday. I'll just say that truth is absolute.

06-03-2006, 01:04 PM	#5
PerpetualBurn Like a greasy chip butty Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Highway 61 (again) Posts: 9,447	Not often I agree with BassRevelations, but I do. Truth to me is objective and absolute - if it wasn't, it would be an illusion at best.

06-03-2006, 01:12 PM	#7
peeted O.o Join Date: May 2004 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 5,389	how can truth be subjective? shurley if something is subjective then it cant be a truth in itself?

06-03-2006, 01:28 PM	#8
lfantwister dr chim richolds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: LA Posts: 2,465	There is no truth. And that's the truth.

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JBJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 8,084	Smoking-related illnesses remain the number one preventable cause of death in the United States, killing more than 440,000 people each year.

06-03-2006, 03:30 PM	#10
italic zero klik Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 7,353	There is subjective and objective truth.

06-03-2006, 03:50 PM	#11
thedeadwalk! Clam Jammed! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Here, GA Posts: 10,598	Truth is the simplicity which you believe.

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Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,158	fact or reality

06-03-2006, 04:39 PM	#15
Atomic Rain Do you know science? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,140	Truth is a name we give to what we believe in.

06-03-2006, 04:41 PM	#16
PerpetualBurn Like a greasy chip butty Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Highway 61 (again) Posts: 9,447	You can believe in something that isn't true.

06-03-2006, 04:54 PM	#17
Atomic Rain Do you know science? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,140	of course, but it's true to you. Ask a schizophrenic if the government are hunting him down he'll say "yes", ask him if he's telling the truth, he'll say "yes", ask you, you'll say "no" neither is lieing since lieing imples intentful deception so both are telling the truth, in their own way

06-03-2006, 05:10 PM	#18
Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,158	god damn you're stupid and that's the truth

06-03-2006, 05:12 PM	#19
Atomic Rain Do you know science? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,140	It must be the eurocommie society I was brought up in, eh? Truth is an entirely human construct.