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Old 06-03-2006, 10:11 AM   #1
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Question of the Week

Ok, here's an idea I had... Approx. Every Week, I'm going to post an extremely vauge, open ended, philosophical question, for which people can answer.
It works like this. When you post it, don't scroll down and look at what other people have posted, as I'm not looking for refutations or anything, I just want open thoughts on the matter... a sentence, or maybe a paragraph... just a short aphorism, not a entire tract.
This also isn't really for discussion on the matter, more just a statement, although I guess argument's on it will be inevitable.
If this one works, then i'll keep doing this... if not, then ... not...


so, What is Truth?
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:34 PM   #2
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Good idea


Truth is Subjective.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:36 PM   #3
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fact is objective, truth is not. both involve accurate observations, though.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:50 PM   #4
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Hard to define something we hear everyday. I'll just say that truth is absolute.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:04 PM   #5
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Not often I agree with BassRevelations, but I do. Truth to me is objective and absolute - if it wasn't, it would be an illusion at best.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:08 PM   #6
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Not often I agree with BassRevelations, but I do. Truth to me is objective and absolute - if it wasn't, it would be an illusion at best.
What we take as true is nothing more then an illussion. What we sense is nothing more then interpretations of electrical impulses our brain picks up.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:12 PM   #7
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how can truth be subjective? shurley if something is subjective then it cant be a truth in itself?
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:28 PM   #8
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There is no truth. And that's the truth.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:10 PM   #9
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Smoking-related illnesses remain the number one preventable cause of death in the United States, killing more than 440,000 people each year.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:30 PM   #10
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There is subjective and objective truth.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:50 PM   #11
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Truth is the simplicity which you believe.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:53 PM   #12
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What we take as true is nothing more then an illussion. What we sense is nothing more then interpretations of electrical impulses our brain picks up.
You have no clue what you're talking about. Regardless of what your brain perceives, there is always an absolute truth. Its absoluteness is not put into question by how people attempt to view it.
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:20 PM   #13
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fact or reality
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:36 PM   #14
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Truth is whatever one believes to be true, simple.
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:39 PM   #15
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Truth is a name we give to what we believe in.
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:41 PM   #16
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You can believe in something that isn't true.
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:54 PM   #17
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of course, but it's true to you.

Ask a schizophrenic if the government are hunting him down he'll say "yes", ask him if he's telling the truth, he'll say "yes", ask you, you'll say "no"

neither is lieing since lieing imples intentful deception so both are telling the truth, in their own way
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:10 PM   #18
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god damn you're stupid

and that's the truth
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:12 PM   #19
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It must be the eurocommie society I was brought up in, eh?

Truth is an entirely human construct.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:25 PM   #20
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of course, but it's true to you.

Ask a schizophrenic if the government are hunting him down he'll say "yes", ask him if he's telling the truth, he'll say "yes", ask you, you'll say "no"

neither is lieing since lieing imples intentful deception so both are telling the truth, in their own way
Since the events are mutually exclusive (i.e he is either being chased or not chased and there is no in between) only one person is right. There is only one truth.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:43 PM   #21
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You can believe in something that isn't true.
Exactly.

Absolute truth is seperate from what people choose to believe.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:50 PM   #22
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Not having read any of anybody's else's thoughts, truth is simply what one believes to be true. In a nutshell, it can be a statistic that is true to every person, or it can be completely subjective from one person to the next.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:55 PM   #23
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It's not true just because you think it is.

That makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:58 PM   #24
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Not having read any of anybody's else's thoughts, truth is simply what one believes to be true. In a nutshell, it can be a statistic that is true to every person, or it can be completely subjective from one person to the next.
This guy gets what I am looking for here... What your answer is don't matter... What matters is that its what you think of, not what others make you think of.
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Old 06-03-2006, 06:05 PM   #25
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This guy gets what I am looking for here... What your answer is don't matter... What matters is that its what you think of, not what others make you think of.
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Old 06-03-2006, 06:10 PM   #26
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No see, you can think something is true all you want and that doesn't make you correct.

You can think the truth is that a car isn't coming right at you, but once it hits you then sorry, you're wrong. The truth hurts that way.
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Old 06-03-2006, 06:14 PM   #27
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I suppose a better question is "how much truth can we ever know?" if people want to go into an argument of perception. But truth is actuality, perception is not.
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Old 06-03-2006, 06:15 PM   #28
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of course, but it's true to you.

Ask a schizophrenic if the government are hunting him down he'll say "yes", ask him if he's telling the truth, he'll say "yes", ask you, you'll say "no"

neither is lieing since lieing imples intentful deception so both are telling the truth, in their own way
neither have the truth, they think they are telling the truth because they think they have knowlage, hence they are not lying but they are actualy expesing opinion of there missconceptions of the truth.
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If a lie has to be intentional, then sure, they aren't lying. I don't see how this could possibly make the claim true though.
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