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Old 01-14-2015, 12:37 PM   #74011
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If you subscribe to any modern, mainstream political ideology you're a leftist. This includes Republicans. The political spectrum has made a gradual shift towards the left over the past 60 years, so literally anything mainstream is under that lens.
so commies are right wing lol

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The simplest way to determine your standing in the left-right paradigm is this: If you lean to the left when you wipe your ass you are a leftist, if you lean right you are rightist, and if you don't wipe you are a green party member.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:33 AM   #74012
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Interestingly enough most Marxists and Communists 80 years ago would have looked at most leftists, social justice warriors, and modern communists/Marxists as pampered bourgeoisie.
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:16 PM   #74013
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Dontcha know man

Anyone that doesnt care about my feels is a brocialist/manarchist
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:10 PM   #74014
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can i just say

[No you can't say that]

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Old 01-17-2015, 04:28 AM   #74015
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Well, now I'm curious.
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Old 01-17-2015, 02:12 PM   #74016
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The real issue with defining right and left [besides the obvious contradictions that come out of examples like communist (associated with 'left') dictatorships (associated with 'right')] is the younger generation is becoming more and more misinformed as time passes, and the older generations more irrational and stubborn through their bitterness. The entire country essentially has no idea what right and left have implied throughout history and what they imply today.

It was Jefferson I think that said 'even someone who is completely ignorant is better off than someone who has their head filled with lies'. Anyone in their twenties or earlier that isn't in a politically-related field of study or job has virtually no idea how politics function in this country, and especially the rest of the world, at all. At 'best' (take into account what Jefferson said and its actually worse) they read the newspapers that treat politics superficially and focus on entertainment over education. Obviously some of the newspapers writer's themselves have bias', special interests and lobbying bullshit going on, especially in the major ones like The New York Times.

The point being is the younger generation (14-28 year olds) is just mindlessly subscribing to one of two superficial world views. This is so obvious in my mind, I wonder if anyone is seriously doubting this? You have the recycled-Marxist arguments of the left, and the Fox News talking points of the right, both philosophies are superficial and easily discredited with a glance at a history book, but like Goebbels said its not the truth of the propaganda its simply getting enough people to say it and to paint naysayers as unpatriotic ('YOU EITHER WITH US OR YOU WITH THE TERRORISTS!') or unhuman (IE modern day 'RACIST'!)

Probably 90-99% of people 20 or younger subscribe to one of the popular yet asinine philosophies of either the 'left' or 'right'. Mostly just because they are too apathetic and simpleminded to question their herd mentality and vote for things that make sense rather than who TV told them had a chance of winning. The older generation is largely just voting based on how things worked in the past, IE they vote Republican cuz they like Ike.

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Old 01-17-2015, 04:30 PM   #74017
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can i just say

[No you can't say that]
luke, do me a favour. tell me what i said. i'm fairly sure you've taken it out of context. come on man
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:32 PM   #74018
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don't call people cunts.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:29 PM   #74019
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ok

got it

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Old 01-18-2015, 04:39 PM   #74020
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just pretend youre australian and call people mates
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:34 PM   #74021
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Old 01-24-2015, 03:36 PM   #74022
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http://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-police-release-video-of-cop-fatally-shooting-armed--fleeing-man-172450903.html
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Old 01-24-2015, 03:42 PM   #74023
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i feel like ukraine issue is a full out war, but no one aknowledges it.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:24 AM   #74024
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I have a question about a class action settlement.

It says that the payout to each individual member in the class is calculated based off the degree of damage the party incurred and also the number who apply.

So hypothetically, if the total number who apply for an award have only been defrauded of an amount less than the judgment awarded, is it possible for the parties to collect a greater judgment than what an individual party may have suffered in damages?

As an example, if a member of the class on average was deprived of $10, through some fraudulent act of the business, and a million apply as being entitled to a share of the judgment, but the judgment is $20 million, then the amount which is awarded in judgment is far greater than that that the members of the class sustained in actual damages.

Will a settlement in this case only pay to that extent and will the company claim some of its money, if it cannot be restored to those damaged? Or rather, will some of that class of victims recover much more than they actually lost?
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They decide what happens to the unclaimed amount when negotiating the settlement.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:13 PM   #74026
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in theory, the court won't award more than is required to compensate the proven loss of the plaintiffs unless it awards exemplary damages against the defendant to punish it for contumelious disregard of the plaintiffs' rights.

so yeah, the court can award order that the defendant pay more than the loss suffered by the plaintiffs but only in some cases.

probably doesn't always work out like that in practice though.

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Old 01-26-2015, 04:08 PM   #74027
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absent a finding of liability (something the settlement, by its very nature, forecloses), the court isn't empowered to award punitive damages - surely that's also the case in NZ?
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Whoops, missed the word "settlement". in that case, the court isn't making any order at all. the plaintiffs' entitlement to money doesn't flow from their loss but from the contractual obligations under the agreement to settle the dispute. so yeah, the plaintiffs might receive more than their provable loss but they aren't collecting on a judgment. the whole point of a settlement is that there is no judgment.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:53 AM   #74029
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If you subscribe to any modern, mainstream political ideology you're a leftist. This includes Republicans. The political spectrum has made a gradual shift towards the left over the past 60 years, so literally anything mainstream is under that lens.
I feel bad for how Ron has progressively gotten more and more nuts over the past few years. I still like the guy, but he's clearly lost touch with reality.
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