Jazz Quintet Live

Hunted By a Freak · 10-23-2005, 11:09 PM

I did a little concert the other night. I play drums. Let me know what you think.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406161

***Zappa*** · 10-24-2005, 08:00 PM

I don't know if I ever expressed to you that I thought you sounded really great. That was a fun night.

Hunted By a Freak · 10-24-2005, 08:04 PM

Thanks!

grim tr00 kvlt · 10-24-2005, 08:50 PM

I don't usually like Jazz, but I really liked 'Song For My Father'
Nice job.

Hunted By a Freak · 10-24-2005, 09:18 PM

Awesome, man.

Samuel · 10-24-2005, 09:31 PM

Listening now. Will edit when done.

~~starless and bible black~~ · 10-25-2005, 04:51 AM

The rhythm section was pretty damn good but your bone player sucks. Are you the camp guy doing the introductions?

Hunted By a Freak · 10-25-2005, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starless and bible black

The rhythm section was pretty damn good but your bone player sucks. Are you the camp guy doing the introductions?

Yeah, our trombone player gets pretty nervous, I think. That was our trumpeter who was calling the tunes and talking to the audience. Tonight we have another concert; hopefully we'll be able to record it again.

Samuel · 10-25-2005, 07:26 AM

The rhythm section was pretty darn good, and the rest was okay. Good job.

Hunted By a Freak · 10-25-2005, 07:31 AM

I'm trying to make a small fusion group to play some concerts too; maybe play some Sco and Stern... Metheny perhaps.

spastic · 10-25-2005, 08:30 PM

You sounded good, much more musical than a lot of drummers. Good support of the soloists, good time feel as well. Your playing wasn't showy, but it's still clear you have chops. Good work

Make sure to post anything of yours that you record with better quality. It was pretty hard to hear the more subtle aspects of your playing, and I'm sure there was stuff I missed.

Fatback · 10-26-2005, 07:46 AM

Very nice, young man!

I had not heard (or thought of) "My Father" since about 1979...when my keyboardist and I used to play it at cocktail hour at a club in Atlanta. He, a drum machine and I would entertain the afternoon drunks before the rest of our band would show up for the nightly gig. I think I prefered our afternoon sessions to the nightly ones singing falsetto and playing all that "Saturday Night Fever" bullsh*t. (SHUDDER!)

Very enjoyable listening to you.

Hunted By a Freak · 10-26-2005, 08:38 AM

Thanks for the kind words, guys!

dj_ando · 10-26-2005, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Cameron

Yeah, our trombone player gets pretty nervous, I think. That was our trumpeter who was calling the tunes and talking to the audience. Tonight we have another concert; hopefully we'll be able to record it again.

send your bone player to my thread

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405898

nice recordings! i especially love song for my father, it's a favourite of mine and you guys played a very nice rendition of it. thanks for the listen!

joas · 10-26-2005, 09:42 AM

Haha, you'll have to forgive me on this Cameron, but Sidewinder just gets boring when I'm playing it so it kind of had that effect for me, too. :-/ The actual playing was rather good. The 'bone definitely could use a little more confidence in his playing, after the melody he drops down volume-wise a lot, and I'm not sure what else it is that gives a feeling of him being timid.

How long have you guys been playing? Where's the gig at/how'd you get it? Cool stuff on the rest of the tunes. Good luck with tonight (if this post isn't too late).

metBANS · 10-26-2005, 06:14 PM

Tell your trombone to learn to doodle toungue fast triplets, it'll sound really good. I really liked his tone on the upper register, nice and warm and mellow, but down low he kinda blatted alot. Get your 'bone to study major-minor relation ships, and encourage him to start his solos, and improved phrases with them, as they are easy to come up with, and really make you feel more comfortable when soloing because they are easy, and very hard to mess up. Once he breaks the tension, he can bust out whatever he feels like.

The trumpet solo was a little dry, and sounded written, and he could open his throat a little more to let the tone be a little warm. When improvising tell him to play a little more towards the modal scales, and expand around that using the licks. Written solos are just a bunch of licks that are usually thrown into the music where the chords work. Thats why the licks weren't necessarily sounding too hot. There is nothing wrong with what he did, its just a sugesstion. When he does runs using the scale or appegiated runs, apply dynamics, attack, phrasing, and so forth, it can be just as intricate as licks.

I really liked the bass, drums, and piana.

Overall, I would give it a really good but not perfect, but no one, not even Sean Jones is perfect.

BTW I loved how your set sounded, what are you using?

***Zappa*** · 10-26-2005, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metBANS

Tell your trombone to learn to doodle toungue fast triplets, it'll sound really good. I really liked his tone on the upper register, nice and warm and mellow, but down low he kinda blatted alot. Get your 'bone to study major-minor relation ships, and encourage him to start his solos, and improved phrases with them, as they are easy to come up with, and really make you feel more comfortable when soloing because they are easy, and very hard to mess up. Once he breaks the tension, he can bust out whatever he feels like.

The trumpet solo was a little dry, and sounded written, and he could open his throat a little more to let the tone be a little warm. When improvising tell him to play a little more towards the modal scales, and expand around that using the licks. Written solos are just a bunch of licks that are usually thrown into the music where the chords work. Thats why the licks weren't necessarily sounding too hot. There is nothing wrong with what he did, its just a sugesstion. When he does runs using the scale or appegiated runs, apply dynamics, attack, phrasing, and so forth, it can be just as intricate as licks.

I really liked the bass, drums, and piana.

Overall, I would give it a really good but not perfect, but no one, not even Sean Jones is perfect.

BTW I loved how your set sounded, what are you using?

This too me reads like a ridiculous post.

THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE GOOD MUSIC SO TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO DO IT THIS WAY!

Oh, and by the way, the trombonist is a GIRL. Chicks swing too, these days.

Fatback · 10-26-2005, 07:31 PM

^^^^^^^^

Cold...but true.

metBANS · 10-26-2005, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zappa

This too me reads like a ridiculous post.

THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE GOOD MUSIC SO TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO DO IT THIS WAY!

Oh, and by the way, the trombonist is a GIRL. Chicks swing too, these days.

I seriously thought about saying he/she... but I thought, "Its acceptable grammatically to use he in a situation where you are not aware of the gender of a person." Because I didn't see a she in any of the posts.

I'm not saying do this, I'm saying consider trying these TECHNIQUES out that will make your music sound and be more crisp. I kept hearing the trombone cut out at the triplets, so I suggested a technique that makes playing triplets on trombone alot easier, and instead of just triple tounging them, making it sound "TIK-3(TIK-IK-TIK)-TAH" which is really harsh and bright, and making it sound "DO-3(DOO-GUH-DOO)-DOO" which is more jazzy and warm.

I play trombone, and I use major-minor licks when I don't feel confident in my ability to play over chord changes and it works for me, and many trombonists that I have talked to/played with/and have taught me.

I'm sorry for having an opinion on the solo saying it was bland, I again made a suggestion on how he/she could phrase a better solo. Guitar players IMHO don't usually form good phrases in jazz solos, unless they have taken lessons specifically for jazz, or play jazz exclusively. I was providing some critique from a horn player rather than the 70% guitarists here.

I now understand I shouldn't have said, "Get your 'bone" or "Get your trumpet", but god forbid if I don't agree with everyone else here saying "OMGz0Rz!!!!!!111 dh3y pl/-\Y t3h JaZZ liek t3h bIG B/-\D v00d00 d/-\DDy!!!!111 dh3y R /-\maZ1nG!!!!!11" I felt that there was room for improvement but if they were to go up during the 2nd set of a professional group playing at a club and ask to play with them, I would definately think that they were talented.

Love (and Hate),
BANS

Hunted By a Freak · 10-26-2005, 11:41 PM

Well, thanks for the critique. I'll keep those things in mind, and I'm glad you went into detail on your appraisal of our group.

10-23-2005, 11:09 PM	#1
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	Jazz Quintet Live I did a little concert the other night. I play drums. Let me know what you think. http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406161

10-24-2005, 08:00 PM	#2
*Zappa* Tatiana Ali! Supermod Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Alongside Posts: 9,992	I don't know if I ever expressed to you that I thought you sounded really great. That was a fun night. __________________ "The present-day composer refuses to die"— Edgar Varèse "I don't want to sell my music. I'd like give it away because where I got it, you didn't have to pay for it"—Captain Beefheart Golden rule for music: "if it sounds good to you, it's bitchen. If it sounds bad to you, it's sh[i][/i]itty."—Frank Zappa

10-25-2005, 04:51 AM	#7
~~starless and bible black~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,140	The rhythm section was pretty damn good but your bone player sucks. Are you the camp guy doing the introductions? Last edited by starless and bible black; 10-25-2005 at 04:56 AM.

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10-24-2005, 08:04 PM	#3
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	Thanks!

10-24-2005, 08:50 PM	#4
grim tr00 kvlt Prussian Blue Fanboy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 375	I don't usually like Jazz, but I really liked 'Song For My Father' Nice job.

10-24-2005, 09:18 PM	#5
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	Awesome, man.

10-24-2005, 09:31 PM	#6
Samuel Piano face! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 9,332	Listening now. Will edit when done.

10-25-2005, 07:26 AM	#9
Samuel Piano face! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 9,332	The rhythm section was pretty darn good, and the rest was okay. Good job.

10-25-2005, 07:31 AM	#10
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	I'm trying to make a small fusion group to play some concerts too; maybe play some Sco and Stern... Metheny perhaps.

10-25-2005, 08:30 PM	#11
spastic FreeMusicNo1 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,596	You sounded good, much more musical than a lot of drummers. Good support of the soloists, good time feel as well. Your playing wasn't showy, but it's still clear you have chops. Good work Make sure to post anything of yours that you record with better quality. It was pretty hard to hear the more subtle aspects of your playing, and I'm sure there was stuff I missed.

10-26-2005, 07:46 AM	#12
Fatback old funk meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: is everything in real estate Posts: 115	Very nice, young man! I had not heard (or thought of) "My Father" since about 1979...when my keyboardist and I used to play it at cocktail hour at a club in Atlanta. He, a drum machine and I would entertain the afternoon drunks before the rest of our band would show up for the nightly gig. I think I prefered our afternoon sessions to the nightly ones singing falsetto and playing all that "Saturday Night Fever" bullsh*t. (SHUDDER!) Very enjoyable listening to you.

10-26-2005, 08:38 AM	#13
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	Thanks for the kind words, guys!

10-26-2005, 09:42 AM	#15
joas what the fuck Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: he's still the best pianist/keyboardist i've ever Posts: 4,453	Haha, you'll have to forgive me on this Cameron, but Sidewinder just gets boring when I'm playing it so it kind of had that effect for me, too. :-/ The actual playing was rather good. The 'bone definitely could use a little more confidence in his playing, after the melody he drops down volume-wise a lot, and I'm not sure what else it is that gives a feeling of him being timid. How long have you guys been playing? Where's the gig at/how'd you get it? Cool stuff on the rest of the tunes. Good luck with tonight (if this post isn't too late).

10-26-2005, 06:14 PM	#16
metBANS Super Rad!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 101	Tell your trombone to learn to doodle toungue fast triplets, it'll sound really good. I really liked his tone on the upper register, nice and warm and mellow, but down low he kinda blatted alot. Get your 'bone to study major-minor relation ships, and encourage him to start his solos, and improved phrases with them, as they are easy to come up with, and really make you feel more comfortable when soloing because they are easy, and very hard to mess up. Once he breaks the tension, he can bust out whatever he feels like. The trumpet solo was a little dry, and sounded written, and he could open his throat a little more to let the tone be a little warm. When improvising tell him to play a little more towards the modal scales, and expand around that using the licks. Written solos are just a bunch of licks that are usually thrown into the music where the chords work. Thats why the licks weren't necessarily sounding too hot. There is nothing wrong with what he did, its just a sugesstion. When he does runs using the scale or appegiated runs, apply dynamics, attack, phrasing, and so forth, it can be just as intricate as licks. I really liked the bass, drums, and piana. Overall, I would give it a really good but not perfect, but no one, not even Sean Jones is perfect. BTW I loved how your set sounded, what are you using?

10-26-2005, 07:31 PM	#18
Fatback old funk meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: is everything in real estate Posts: 115	^^^^^^^^ Cold...but true.

10-26-2005, 11:41 PM	#20
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	Well, thanks for the critique. I'll keep those things in mind, and I'm glad you went into detail on your appraisal of our group.