so, do you guys have anything against rock and metal?

superdigg · 10-21-2005, 10:14 AM

A lot of my friends that listen to punk seem to hold Rock and Metal in contempt, scoffing at those that listen to it. I used to listen to punk and feel sort of the same way, as if the R&Mers were missing out on something, buuut now I prefer R&M over punk and yeah it just got me thinking. FOR INSTANCE, the other day, I was telling my "punk" friend how much I enjoyed this Rush album I got, and she's like "really, Rush?

" as if Rush is like, baby music! Then I asked if she had ever heard any Rush, and she hadn't. It's a filthy prejudice, and it seems to be pretty common, at least among people I know in real life.

So anyway, what do you guys think of R&M/its listeners?

Drop The Baby · 10-21-2005, 10:16 AM

I don't hold anything against it, i just don't like it. I think musically metal especially has some good stuff, and great guiatr solos but i don't like it much if you see what i mean.

Although i think i understand it better cos my mate is a metal head and an amazing guitar player

trunks_punk · 10-21-2005, 10:18 AM

I like it! i think its important to kick around in different genres. You should never count yourself as a single genre and just say "you like good music". No matter what it is

albert_bass · 10-21-2005, 10:23 AM

I like some metal and rock but metal is overrated in my opinion.

I preffer jazz or funk over metal anyday.

superdigg · 10-21-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Drop The Baby

I don't hold anything against it, i just don't like it. I think musically metal especially has some good stuff, and great guiatr solos but i don't like it much if you see what i mean.

Although i think i understand it better cos my mate is a metal head and an amazing guitar player

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Originally Posted by trunks_punk

I like it! i think its important to kick around in different genres. You should never count yourself as a single genre and just say "you like good music". No matter what it is

see, yeah, that's what i mean. it's like, i don't personally enjoy jazz but i can appreciate it. i'm pretty sure most MX punk-lovers are more mature than real life ones in that way. uhh yes, i shall let this thread continue, maybe there are some different opinions?

trunks_punk · 10-21-2005, 10:26 AM

you know it

AndreTheHyena · 10-21-2005, 10:33 AM

Some metal rules. Most doesn't. I try my damnedest not to be prejudiced, though.

Shadows Within · 10-21-2005, 10:37 AM

im the exact opposite im prejudice against punk i really dont see why anyone can like it but i guess i need to hear more before i judge

:Runs Back To R&M Before Gets *** Kicked:

Culture Shock · 10-21-2005, 10:38 AM

It all comes down to my tastes being prejudice, not me! I don't limit or restrict my tastes, I just listen to what I like. There are few metal albums I will listen to with Slayer's 'Reign in Blood' being one of them. As for rock I just listen to few random bands including The Doors, Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, AC/DC etc.

You shouldn't limit your tastes but at the same time you shouldn't feel the need to expand your musical tastes just for the sake of doing so. I relate best to specific bands in the punk/ska/dub genres and I enjoy listening to them the most.

albert_bass · 10-21-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Laihoistheman

im the exact opposite im prejudice against punk i really dont see why anyone can like it but i guess i need to hear more before i judge

:Runs Back To R&M Before Gets *** Kicked:

The difference is we don't have prejudices against metal, we just don't like most of it.

Not trying to flame, but prejudices are stupid. I mean, if you can't stand punk just because it's simple you need to rethink your whole scheme of music.

Arucard · 10-21-2005, 10:58 AM

I like both equally. Freaks Union are my faverouite band, along with Arsis. One is punk, one is Death Metal.

~~EightMilesHigh~~ · 10-21-2005, 11:07 AM

I listen to a fair bit of rock and metal, specifically classic rock (I'm a huge Beatles fan). I love a couple punk bands, but I'm mostly into Alt/Indie stuff.

Pete · 10-21-2005, 11:07 AM

I'm a huuuge metal fan (in fact, I'm going to see Vital Remains tonight

), but I'm also a huuuge punk fan. I like good music - there's good music in both genres, so I'll listen to both genres. Here are some of my absolutely favourite bands ever;

Strike Anywhere
Dissection
A Wilhelm Scream
Immortal
Protest the Hero
Bridge to Solace
Lagwagon
Vital Remains
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Rise Against
Converge
NOFX
Dillinger Escape Plan

...and the list could go on, mixing punk and metal like never before.

I like hard, fast guitar-driven music, I guess. I've never understood people who like one of the genres, but hates the other.

Shadows Within · 10-21-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FatPete

I'm a huuuge metal fan (in fact, I'm going to see Vital Remains tonight

), but I'm also a huuuge punk fan. I like good music - there's good music in both genres, so I'll listen to both genres. Here are some of my absolutely favourite bands ever;

Strike Anywhere
Dissection
A Wilhelm Scream
Immortal
Protest the Hero
Bridge to Solace
Lagwagon
Vital Remains
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Rise Against
Converge
NOFX
Dillinger Escape Plan

...and the list could go on, mixing punk and metal like never before.

I like hard, fast guitar-driven music, I guess. I've never understood people who like one of the genres, but hates the other.

most of those are metalcore arent they? i dunno about NOFX i hear them mentioned all over the place i thought they where punk.

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Originally Posted by albert_bass

if you can't stand punk just because it's simple you need to rethink your whole scheme of music.

thats actually one of the big reasons i got into metal i was tired of the simplistic stuff i started picking up guitar ans when i did that i started listening to a whole bunch of players (Steve Vai, Paul Gilbert, Yngwie Malmsteen, Zakk Wylde) then i started to get into alot of metal bands from there.

trunks_punk · 10-21-2005, 11:22 AM

thats funny saying that because years ago there was only really punk, hardcore punk, metal, and death metal.

there were no sub-genres when i started listening to punk and metal

albert_bass · 10-21-2005, 11:24 AM

I picked guitar too but I can't stand the 100 nps solos that sound so overcrowded with notes. That's one of the reasons why I don't like metal, also the riffing absolutely bores me.

What I like in a song is mostly energy and originality.

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Originally Posted by Laihoistheman

most of those are metalcore arent they? i dunno about NOFX i hear them mentioned all over the place i thought they where punk.

Most of those bands aren't metalcore.

Lagwagon, NOFX = pop-punk

Strike Anywhere, A Wilhelm scream, Rise Against = melodic hardcore

Protest The Hero = metal/punk

Shadows Within · 10-21-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by albert_bass

What I like in a song is mostly energy and originality.

and metal doesn't

im complete opposite i get completly blown away when i hear shredding like that and the riffs can get stuck in my head for days.

iLlA! · 10-21-2005, 11:58 AM

i like the metal only for the wonderful solos....some metal guitarist are fantastic...

Angry Balled Fists! · 10-21-2005, 12:15 PM

I don't like metal much tbh.

I like the odd band, including SOAD, Converge and DEP.

(not strictly metal, but w/e)

Gnarmageddon · 10-21-2005, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatPete

I'm a huuuge metal fan (in fact, I'm going to see Vital Remains tonight

), but I'm also a huuuge punk fan. I like good music - there's good music in both genres, so I'll listen to both genres. Here are some of my absolutely favourite bands ever;

Strike Anywhere
Dissection
A Wilhelm Scream
Immortal
Protest the Hero
Bridge to Solace
Lagwagon
Vital Remains
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Rise Against
Converge
NOFX
Dillinger Escape Plan

...and the list could go on, mixing punk and metal like never before.

I like hard, fast guitar-driven music, I guess. I've never understood people who like one of the genres, but hates the other.

123. I'm the same way. I like both genres, and now I'm actually starting to get into metal and grind more than punk and pop punk.

10-21-2005, 10:14 AM	#1
superdigg next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: beijing Posts: 2,202	so, do you guys have anything against rock and metal? A lot of my friends that listen to punk seem to hold Rock and Metal in contempt, scoffing at those that listen to it. I used to listen to punk and feel sort of the same way, as if the R&Mers were missing out on something, buuut now I prefer R&M over punk and yeah it just got me thinking. FOR INSTANCE, the other day, I was telling my "punk" friend how much I enjoyed this Rush album I got, and she's like "really, Rush? " as if Rush is like, baby music! Then I asked if she had ever heard any Rush, and she hadn't. It's a filthy prejudice, and it seems to be pretty common, at least among people I know in real life. So anyway, what do you guys think of R&M/its listeners? Last edited by superdigg; 10-21-2005 at 10:42 PM.

10-21-2005, 10:58 AM	#11
Arucard mx dance elitist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hidden Mist Village Posts: 10,289	I like both equally. Freaks Union are my faverouite band, along with Arsis. One is punk, one is Death Metal.
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~~EightMilesHigh~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: because sleep is the cousin of death Posts: 19,811	I listen to a fair bit of rock and metal, specifically classic rock (I'm a huge Beatles fan). I love a couple punk bands, but I'm mostly into Alt/Indie stuff.
	Digging: Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

10-21-2005, 10:16 AM	#2
Drop The Baby England Til I Die Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,397	I don't hold anything against it, i just don't like it. I think musically metal especially has some good stuff, and great guiatr solos but i don't like it much if you see what i mean. Although i think i understand it better cos my mate is a metal head and an amazing guitar player

10-21-2005, 10:18 AM	#3
trunks_punk Gainson11 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: brisvegas Posts: 194	I like it! i think its important to kick around in different genres. You should never count yourself as a single genre and just say "you like good music". No matter what it is

10-21-2005, 10:23 AM	#4
albert_bass Unibrow punx unite! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Unibrowland Posts: 5,810	I like some metal and rock but metal is overrated in my opinion. I preffer jazz or funk over metal anyday.

10-21-2005, 10:26 AM	#6
trunks_punk Gainson11 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: brisvegas Posts: 194	you know it

10-21-2005, 10:33 AM	#7
AndreTheHyena Lemonheads Posse. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Ozarks. Posts: 7,403	Some metal rules. Most doesn't. I try my damnedest not to be prejudiced, though.

10-21-2005, 10:37 AM	#8
Shadows Within . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway, Maine Posts: 4,226	im the exact opposite im prejudice against punk i really dont see why anyone can like it but i guess i need to hear more before i judge :Runs Back To R&M Before Gets *** Kicked:

10-21-2005, 10:38 AM	#9
Culture Shock Join the tribe. Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 821	It all comes down to my tastes being prejudice, not me! I don't limit or restrict my tastes, I just listen to what I like. There are few metal albums I will listen to with Slayer's 'Reign in Blood' being one of them. As for rock I just listen to few random bands including The Doors, Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, AC/DC etc. You shouldn't limit your tastes but at the same time you shouldn't feel the need to expand your musical tastes just for the sake of doing so. I relate best to specific bands in the punk/ska/dub genres and I enjoy listening to them the most.

10-21-2005, 11:07 AM	#13
Pete rebukepunks.com/2008.html Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location: Location. Posts: 21,673	I'm a huuuge metal fan (in fact, I'm going to see Vital Remains tonight ), but I'm also a huuuge punk fan. I like good music - there's good music in both genres, so I'll listen to both genres. Here are some of my absolutely favourite bands ever; Strike Anywhere Dissection A Wilhelm Scream Immortal Protest the Hero Bridge to Solace Lagwagon Vital Remains Agoraphobic Nosebleed Rise Against Converge NOFX Dillinger Escape Plan ...and the list could go on, mixing punk and metal like never before. I like hard, fast guitar-driven music, I guess. I've never understood people who like one of the genres, but hates the other.

10-21-2005, 11:22 AM	#15
trunks_punk Gainson11 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: brisvegas Posts: 194	thats funny saying that because years ago there was only really punk, hardcore punk, metal, and death metal. there were no sub-genres when i started listening to punk and metal

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iLlA! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: udine,italy Posts: 13	i like the metal only for the wonderful solos....some metal guitarist are fantastic...

10-21-2005, 12:15 PM	#19
Angry Balled Fists! NOW! Join Date: May 2004 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 20,402	I don't like metal much tbh. I like the odd band, including SOAD, Converge and DEP. (not strictly metal, but w/e)