The rhythm of Hendrix

Popup-Box · 09-15-2005, 11:42 AM

I know this might be considered off-topic for this forum, however, I think I am able to connect the subject to interests of this forum.

Many times when I've listened to songs of Jimi Hendrix, I have noticed several things. Not neccassarily the greatness in his guitar playing (!), but rather the pumping FUNKY GROOVE. Especially the drummer has grabbed my attention, as he seems to be the fundament of the great rhythms that live on in the songs.

Now, what I am wondering is; do the Hendrix band tend to incorporate varied time signatures in their songs, is the drummer (and the rest of the band, for that sake) incredibly gifted when it comes to maintaining grooves, is it a combination of both maybe, or is there another explanation?

***Zappa*** · 09-15-2005, 12:08 PM

Since when are varied time signatures funky or groovy?

(*The Noonward Race*) · 09-15-2005, 12:45 PM

What exactly were you listening to?

Popup-Box · 09-15-2005, 12:54 PM

Zappa: Good question. I am afraid I failed in my reasoning. However, there IS a certain groove going on in most of Hendrix' songs, I will claim. Let me re-phrase a new question: Has anyone else noticed that the musicians in the Hendrix band tend to have a great sense of rhythm?

Another point might be that I react to a song if it has a time signature which is not 4/4. Then, if the rhythm is good, and the time signature is not 4/4, I might automatically relate the greatness of the rhythm to the non-4/4 groove. Just a thought.

Noonward Race: The last example I listened to was Little Wing.

Seafroggys · 09-15-2005, 01:02 PM

Mitch Mitchell could lay down the coolest grooves. He definitally has a big jazz background, and it really shows.

jazzfunkboy · 09-15-2005, 01:39 PM

the bassist is really great too. they make a great pair, and i think thats where the groove comes from. i love his backup band.

Emin3m · 09-15-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfunkboy

the bassist is really great too. they make a great pair, and i think thats where the groove comes from. i love his backup band.

Noel Redding = bass.

Sam · 09-15-2005, 05:44 PM

Jimi Hendrix's rhythm is really smooth and funky, though it has more to do with his playing style then time signatures.

Hendrix is underrated.

punchnpie · 09-22-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Emin3m

Noel Redding = bass.

That all depends on which album you're talking about. IN '69 Redding left and jimi's army buddy Billy Cox became the new bassist.

Broken Arrow · 09-22-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seafroggys

Mitch Mitchell could lay down the coolest grooves. He definitally has a big jazz background, and it really shows.

I love the drumming in "Fire".

(*The Noonward Race*) · 09-22-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Livewired

I love the drumming in "Fire".

I noticed that too.

Destroyed · 09-22-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Hendrix is underrated.

Joke?

tehnick · 09-22-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyed

Joke?

Hendrix is underated on this board, every where else he is overated.

ok lateralus · 09-22-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Hendrix is underrated.

Yeah, maybe on this board. I see too many people going crazy here for Jimmy Page, but compared to Hendrix, he's mediocre. Hendrix, every aspect of his playing is so amazing... his rhythm and lead...

Titties_n_Beer · 09-22-2005, 11:45 PM

hendrix wasnt really a great guitarist, he played with heaps of emotion though, i consider page to be a much better guitarist.

dumbassdrummer · 09-23-2005, 12:15 AM

Mitch Mitchell was amazing. Great drummer, and as was already said - alot of jazz influence. Origional musician that guy. Truely a legend.

"Yeah, maybe on this board. I see too many people going crazy here for Jimmy Page, but compared to Hendrix, he's mediocre. Hendrix, every aspect of his playing is so amazing... his rhythm and lead..."

Jimmy Page was the top studio guitarist in the UK when he was 17 years old. Hendrix was great, but he was most definately not as good as Page. Just look at the Zeppelin and Yardbirds cataloge. The variety, musicianship, technicality... it's all there. I love Hendrix, but he simply cannot beat out someone like Jimmy Page.

Ned · 09-23-2005, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dumbassdrummer

Hendrix was great, but he was most definately [sic] not as good as Page. Just look at the Zeppelin and Yardbirds cataloge. The variety, musicianship, technicality... it's all there. I love Hendrix, but he simply cannot beat out someone like Jimmy Page.

That's ridiculous. I saw Page in his prime on the "Stairway to Heaven" tour: He was nothing. The best I can say for Page is that he's better than Steve Miller, which is saying very little. Page could never hold a candle to Jan Ackerman, Danny Kortchmar (of The Section), Jeff Beck, Clapton, Santana, or Hendrix. Even Martin Barre wipes him out. (Write "definitely" fifty times on the chalk board before you leave.)

punchnpie · 09-23-2005, 11:52 AM

I would'nt go as far as saying Martin Barre is better then Page. Otherwise i agree with you on everthing else. Speaking of Martin Barre, i'm going to see Tull in October. Anyone else going this year?

PinkFreud · 09-23-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Titties_n_Beer

hendrix wasnt really a great guitarist, he played with heaps of emotion though, i consider page to be a much better guitarist.

yes, yes he was. his rhythm work in particular is spectacular. and his solos are much more complex than pages. page was kind of mediocre compared to other guitarists around in the same time period.

Ned · 09-24-2005, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by punchnpie

I would'nt go as far as saying Martin Barre is better then Page. Otherwise i agree with you on everthing else. Speaking of Martin Barre, i'm going to see Tull in October. Anyone else going this year?

Well, it may be an exaggeration to say, as I did, that Barre "wipes out" Page. Back in the day I personally preferred Barre. How about that?

I saw Tull in 2003 (August), the first time in several centuries or so. I thought Barre was much improved technically but not pacing himself especially well this particular night. Ian Anderson's flute playing was also much improved technically, in respect to tone, intonation, and clarity, but his solos, although well-paced, were fairly obvious and his lines not intricate, which may be a concession to his non-jazz fans. His patter was very entertaining and his singing voice completely shot. I almost saw Tull again November of 2005 playing just a couple blocks from where I live, but it was the day after the election, and I was too depressed.

09-15-2005, 11:42 AM	#1
Popup-Box Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 636	The rhythm of Hendrix I know this might be considered off-topic for this forum, however, I think I am able to connect the subject to interests of this forum. Many times when I've listened to songs of Jimi Hendrix, I have noticed several things. Not neccassarily the greatness in his guitar playing (!), but rather the pumping FUNKY GROOVE. Especially the drummer has grabbed my attention, as he seems to be the fundament of the great rhythms that live on in the songs. Now, what I am wondering is; do the Hendrix band tend to incorporate varied time signatures in their songs, is the drummer (and the rest of the band, for that sake) incredibly gifted when it comes to maintaining grooves, is it a combination of both maybe, or is there another explanation?

09-15-2005, 12:08 PM	#2
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09-15-2005, 12:45 PM	#3
(The Noonward Race) JohnCage walks into a bar Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: on ya love Posts: 35,878	What exactly were you listening to?

09-15-2005, 12:54 PM	#4
Popup-Box Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 636	Zappa: Good question. I am afraid I failed in my reasoning. However, there IS a certain groove going on in most of Hendrix' songs, I will claim. Let me re-phrase a new question: Has anyone else noticed that the musicians in the Hendrix band tend to have a great sense of rhythm? Another point might be that I react to a song if it has a time signature which is not 4/4. Then, if the rhythm is good, and the time signature is not 4/4, I might automatically relate the greatness of the rhythm to the non-4/4 groove. Just a thought. Noonward Race: The last example I listened to was Little Wing.

09-15-2005, 01:02 PM	#5
Seafroggys Truffula Hugger Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edge of Nowhere Posts: 15,038	Mitch Mitchell could lay down the coolest grooves. He definitally has a big jazz background, and it really shows.

09-15-2005, 01:39 PM	#6
jazzfunkboy So What? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: US Posts: 2,519	the bassist is really great too. they make a great pair, and i think thats where the groove comes from. i love his backup band.

09-15-2005, 05:44 PM	#8
Sam Suburbancore Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,935	Jimi Hendrix's rhythm is really smooth and funky, though it has more to do with his playing style then time signatures. Hendrix is underrated.

09-22-2005, 11:45 PM	#15
Titties_n_Beer i am commander keen Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 260	hendrix wasnt really a great guitarist, he played with heaps of emotion though, i consider page to be a much better guitarist.

09-23-2005, 12:15 AM	#16
dumbassdrummer <----> Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,473	Mitch Mitchell was amazing. Great drummer, and as was already said - alot of jazz influence. Origional musician that guy. Truely a legend. "Yeah, maybe on this board. I see too many people going crazy here for Jimmy Page, but compared to Hendrix, he's mediocre. Hendrix, every aspect of his playing is so amazing... his rhythm and lead..." Jimmy Page was the top studio guitarist in the UK when he was 17 years old. Hendrix was great, but he was most definately not as good as Page. Just look at the Zeppelin and Yardbirds cataloge. The variety, musicianship, technicality... it's all there. I love Hendrix, but he simply cannot beat out someone like Jimmy Page.

09-23-2005, 11:52 AM	#18
punchnpie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3	I would'nt go as far as saying Martin Barre is better then Page. Otherwise i agree with you on everthing else. Speaking of Martin Barre, i'm going to see Tull in October. Anyone else going this year?