Strange Drum School in Japan

Fungi · 05-14-2005, 01:05 AM

Note: This is NOT an advertisement.

http://www.warabi.ne.jp/~ks-music/44.html

This is a drumming school in Japan, really expensive, and their methods are mostly Moeller, and the bass drum techniques are unconventional.
Their main focus is using the least amount of muscle possible, and other stuff. Buddy Rich, Dave Weckl, Dennis Chambers, are among the drummers mentioned by them as examples.

I was wondering what you guys think of this, because I think it's really weird and stuff. There are a bunch of videos there to give you an idea of what they're teaching.
As I said earlier, this is NOT an advertisement.

~~Jezen~~ · 05-14-2005, 02:54 AM

Tix to Japan = costly. I've already been there 4 times this year.

Sick-O · 05-14-2005, 09:20 PM

Haha thats a big slap in the face who ever said there arent any good asian drummers..

EDIT: did you see that dudes double bass work!?

BoomCrackCrash · 05-14-2005, 09:32 PM

Yeah that was some fancy footwork, at first i thought he must only be 8th noting it because 260bpm is insane but i went back and listened and it soundly like mostly 16ths even though they were sloppy it's still impressive. Do you know how much exactly it would cost to go? I'm not planning on going but that's kind of an interesting thing to know

Fungi · 05-15-2005, 08:29 AM

It's about $570 for the initial lesson and signing up and stuff, and $275/mo for the regular course, one 130 minute lesson per month, or $550/mo for the master course, two 130 minute lessons per month (master is intended for pros or those who are seriously going to become pros).

SalientArbiter · 05-15-2005, 08:37 AM

how the hell do you get a video? can someone directly link to one here, cuz i can't find my way around all those foreign characters for beans

tapioca · 05-15-2005, 10:13 AM

dude, just click/save as on one of those pictures.

that's quite interesting. most of the stuff seems to be pretty mathematical, like position of pedals and that orange thing on the pedal to use the fullest of the rebound.

Janeway · 05-15-2005, 10:28 AM

Asian drummers make me giggle.
The course would be all fine and dandy, but wouldn't you have to speak Japanese?
I have a hard time with English, man.

Fungi · 05-15-2005, 11:26 AM

The orange thing on the pedal is a tangerine, and they're showing how they can get lots of power without smashing the tangerine on the footboard.
It's all pretty advanced stuff, like the Buddy Rich or Dennis Chambers stroke methods, or the finger control methods listed here.

Hunted By a Freak · 05-22-2005, 02:52 PM

Crazy asians.

BL_asd · 05-22-2005, 03:40 PM

hmm..i'm a asian..

Cal_on_drums · 05-24-2005, 04:16 AM

WTF? What happened with the pedal and the tangerine?! Did he just break the pedal?!

Fungi · 05-24-2005, 04:57 AM

He puts a tangerine on the pedal to show how their technique doesn't involve pressing hard on the pedal. Then at the end they show how standard technique would have squashed the tangerine in no time.

Dentaku Katateni · 11-10-2005, 11:34 AM

I'm Japanese, and I go to this drum school for 1 and a half year.
Is there any question?

(I'm not good at English. Please don't mind unusual English phrase.)

I find that this is a very old thread.
Is there anyone who reads this thread?

~~Jezen~~ · 11-10-2005, 04:33 PM

I read this thread a long time ago. Do you think you could explain his double bass method?

-Funky monk- · 11-10-2005, 05:03 PM

Meh, too expensive,

dumbassdrummer · 11-10-2005, 05:36 PM

Wow, this is crazy stuff.

I'd like to learn more about these techniques though.

DxRocker · 11-10-2005, 06:05 PM

I'ld just like to know what happened with that pedal when he was hitting it with his hand with the orange on top

~~Jezen~~ · 11-11-2005, 01:48 AM

Didn't get squished. Then he tried playing the pedal with his (foot) technique and it didn't get squashed. Then he tried using the 'heavy metal uber double basser joey um jordisun' technique and it squashed instantly.

INTROBLiD · 11-11-2005, 02:43 AM

From what I can see, some of the pictures show the muscle groups and potential energy motion that you would have to use to create the most leverage/quickest stroke with the least amount of kinetic energy used...

...interesting stuff...wish it was in english...

05-14-2005, 01:05 AM	#1
Fungi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 59	Strange Drum School in Japan Note: This is NOT an advertisement. http://www.warabi.ne.jp/~ks-music/44.html This is a drumming school in Japan, really expensive, and their methods are mostly Moeller, and the bass drum techniques are unconventional. Their main focus is using the least amount of muscle possible, and other stuff. Buddy Rich, Dave Weckl, Dennis Chambers, are among the drummers mentioned by them as examples. I was wondering what you guys think of this, because I think it's really weird and stuff. There are a bunch of videos there to give you an idea of what they're teaching. As I said earlier, this is NOT an advertisement.

11-10-2005, 11:34 AM	#14
Dentaku Katateni Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3	I go to this school for 1 and a half year I'm Japanese, and I go to this drum school for 1 and a half year. Is there any question? (I'm not good at English. Please don't mind unusual English phrase.) I find that this is a very old thread. Is there anyone who reads this thread?

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05-14-2005, 02:54 AM	#2
~~Jezen~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,931	Tix to Japan = costly. I've already been there 4 times this year.

05-14-2005, 09:20 PM	#3
Sick-O Yeah Baby!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Francisco. Retarded: Slightly. O.o Posts: 1,815	Haha thats a big slap in the face who ever said there arent any good asian drummers.. EDIT: did you see that dudes double bass work!?

05-14-2005, 09:32 PM	#4
BoomCrackCrash Drummer Babay. Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 31	Yeah that was some fancy footwork, at first i thought he must only be 8th noting it because 260bpm is insane but i went back and listened and it soundly like mostly 16ths even though they were sloppy it's still impressive. Do you know how much exactly it would cost to go? I'm not planning on going but that's kind of an interesting thing to know

05-15-2005, 08:29 AM	#5
Fungi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 59	It's about $570 for the initial lesson and signing up and stuff, and $275/mo for the regular course, one 130 minute lesson per month, or $550/mo for the master course, two 130 minute lessons per month (master is intended for pros or those who are seriously going to become pros).

05-15-2005, 08:37 AM	#6
SalientArbiter Registered Muncher Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,989	how the hell do you get a video? can someone directly link to one here, cuz i can't find my way around all those foreign characters for beans

05-15-2005, 10:13 AM	#7
tapioca 1st 2 mic the drumstool Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Oldenburg, Germany Posts: 1,311	dude, just click/save as on one of those pictures. that's quite interesting. most of the stuff seems to be pretty mathematical, like position of pedals and that orange thing on the pedal to use the fullest of the rebound.

05-15-2005, 10:28 AM	#8
Janeway Disorientation Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: poopsville Posts: 10,472	Asian drummers make me giggle. The course would be all fine and dandy, but wouldn't you have to speak Japanese? I have a hard time with English, man.

05-15-2005, 11:26 AM	#9
Fungi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 59	The orange thing on the pedal is a tangerine, and they're showing how they can get lots of power without smashing the tangerine on the footboard. It's all pretty advanced stuff, like the Buddy Rich or Dennis Chambers stroke methods, or the finger control methods listed here.

05-22-2005, 02:52 PM	#10
Hunted By a Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,237	Crazy asians.

05-22-2005, 03:40 PM	#11
BL_asd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 121	hmm..i'm a asian..

05-24-2005, 04:16 AM	#12
Cal_on_drums Stalin Is My Homeboy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 686	WTF? What happened with the pedal and the tangerine?! Did he just break the pedal?!

05-24-2005, 04:57 AM	#13
Fungi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 59	He puts a tangerine on the pedal to show how their technique doesn't involve pressing hard on the pedal. Then at the end they show how standard technique would have squashed the tangerine in no time.

11-10-2005, 04:33 PM	#15
~~Jezen~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,931	I read this thread a long time ago. Do you think you could explain his double bass method?

11-10-2005, 05:03 PM	#16
-Funky monk- Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,523	Meh, too expensive,

11-10-2005, 05:36 PM	#17
dumbassdrummer <----> Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,473	Wow, this is crazy stuff. I'd like to learn more about these techniques though.

11-10-2005, 06:05 PM	#18
DxRocker Istanbul Ambassador Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 5,608	I'ld just like to know what happened with that pedal when he was hitting it with his hand with the orange on top

11-11-2005, 01:48 AM	#19
~~Jezen~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,931	Didn't get squished. Then he tried playing the pedal with his (foot) technique and it didn't get squashed. Then he tried using the 'heavy metal uber double basser joey um jordisun' technique and it squashed instantly.

11-11-2005, 02:43 AM	#20
INTROBLiD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 41	From what I can see, some of the pictures show the muscle groups and potential energy motion that you would have to use to create the most leverage/quickest stroke with the least amount of kinetic energy used... ...interesting stuff...wish it was in english...