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Old 04-26-2005, 01:56 PM   #1
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Copyright Issue

I'd like to get this cleared up once and for all, MX. If we submit reviews to Sputnik, do they become your property? Are we allowed to resubmit them at other places? If you do have some sort of copyright policy, can you please link me to it, as I haven't been able to find it.

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Old 04-30-2005, 06:18 AM   #2
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Thats an interesting thought. Id have thought that they'd be your intellectual property and as such you were able to post them anywhere.
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Old 04-30-2005, 06:43 AM   #3
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Thats an interesting thought. Id have thought that they'd be your intellectual property and as such you were able to post them anywhere.
There's no such thing as intellectual property when it comes to copyrights. If you write a review for Sputnik, it's technically never your legal property in terms of creative control without either an unopened postmarked envelope containing said writing (a musician trick for copyrighting music) or an official copyright. When you submit your review to Sputnik, you're not perfoming any sort of legal cross over because whatever Jeremy does with it is his own business at that point. Unless he has copyrights over absolutely everything on the site, which I doubt, anyone can take the reviews from Sputnik as well and use them as they please.
 
Old 04-30-2005, 07:03 AM   #4
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Old 04-30-2005, 09:59 AM   #5
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There's no such thing as intellectual property when it comes to copyrights. If you write a review for Sputnik, it's technically never your legal property in terms of creative control without either an unopened postmarked envelope containing said writing (a musician trick for copyrighting music) or an official copyright. When you submit your review to Sputnik, you're not perfoming any sort of legal cross over because whatever Jeremy does with it is his own business at that point. Unless he has copyrights over absolutely everything on the site, which I doubt, anyone can take the reviews from Sputnik as well and use them as they please.
MX is in massive breach of copyright anyhow, it's purely a matter of how much the publishers think they need mxtabs down.
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Not that I agree with publishers shutting down tab sites, I'm just saying Jeremy ignored my warnings and legal examples.
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Old 04-30-2005, 02:41 PM   #6
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When you submit your review to Sputnik, you're not perfoming any sort of legal cross over because whatever Jeremy does with it is his own business at that point. Unless he has copyrights over absolutely everything on the site, which I doubt, anyone can take the reviews from Sputnik as well and use them as they please.
OK that's what I was hoping, but I'd like to see a response from MX himself just to clarify, because I've still yet to receive an answer from him.
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Old 05-02-2005, 01:35 PM   #7
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MX is in massive breach of copyright anyhow, it's purely a matter of how much the publishers think they need mxtabs down.
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Not that I agree with publishers shutting down tab sites, I'm just saying Jeremy ignored my warnings and legal examples.


and you wonder why jez doesn't like you.
 
Old 05-20-2005, 06:04 AM   #8
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Jeremy's silence says more than his genric fundamentalist christian bullplop excuses ever could.
 
Old 05-20-2005, 07:55 PM   #9
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Jeremy's silence says more than his genric fundamentalist christian bullplop excuses ever could.
Seriously. He's addressed basically every issue but this one.
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Old 05-21-2005, 01:22 PM   #10
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Jeremy's silence says more than his genric fundamentalist christian bullplop excuses ever could.
wtf? First of all, that accusation is ridiculous. Second, I simply did not see this thread. Of course they don't become my property, they are yours.
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of course? on other sites, they don't, its not exactly a given.
 
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Well, don't assume that I am a bad guy, and am 'stealing'. Some of the posts here were ridiculous.
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Old 05-21-2005, 03:34 PM   #13
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its not exactly a given.
I don't think it will take much work to add it to the FAQ section of Sputnik
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:34 AM   #14
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Well, don't assume that I am a bad guy, and am 'stealing'. Some of the posts here were ridiculous.
Mine wasn't.
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-212236.html?legacy=cnet
Tabs are illegal.



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That link is from 1998. Have anything a little more recent?
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HAHA I made a post in here calling bullplop on mx's post and he deleted it, then IP banned me.

You guys do realise he's just putting on a front, right? It even says on Sputnik music that all reviews are property of the MXTabs Network. That means he is the legal owner, and you are breaching copyright by having a copy of the review on your own harddisk after you have submitted unless you have written permission from Jeremy himself.
 
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That link is from 1998. Have anything a little more recent?
The law cited in the article is still the same.
 
Old 05-22-2005, 06:57 AM   #18
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You guys do realise he's just putting on a front, right? It even says on Sputnik music that all reviews are property of the MXTabs Network. That means he is the legal owner, and you are breaching copyright by having a copy of the review on your own harddisk after you have submitted unless you have written permission from Jeremy himself.
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Copyright 2004 Mxtabs Network
Do you mean this? If you think it states all you submit becomes property of mx, than all your posts here and on MXTabs get too, as the same sentence is stated at the bottom of the forums and MXTabs.net. That point is pointless. If you deem every copyright remark on any instance as a sign your property that you create using it becomes the property of the copyright holder, I would stop using any computer apps at all. That would mean that for example all stuff you write in MS Word becomes propery of Microsoft. After all, it states 'Copyright XXXX the Microsoft Corp.' when you start it

It has also been stated that the reviews stay your property. Why keep biatchin'?
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:15 AM   #19
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That link is from 1998. Have anything a little more recent?
No, but ask anyone who has studied law or the music industry, or call a publisher and ask their legal department and they will tell you that tabs are illegal without the permission of the artists publisher.
The reason for this being that if tabs didn't exist, the sale of mainstream music books for example, Blink 182 and Metallica would rocket, so effectively tabs are taking money away from that outlet.
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No, but ask anyone who has studied law or the music industry, or call a publisher and ask their legal department and they will tell you that tabs are illegal without the permission of the artists publisher.
The reason for this being that if tabs didn't exist, the sale of mainstream music books for example, Blink 182 and Metallica would rocket, so effectively tabs are taking money away from that outlet.
I believe you, I was just wondering if there were any more recent cases.

edit: and as plex said, the law is still the same, so I guess it doesn't matter.
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