"Screamo"

XemoXmoshXpitX · 02-11-2005, 04:57 PM

Okay, I understand many bands with the same type of music and vocals as Circle Takes the Square and Pg. 99 are labeled screamo. They are fairly chaotic with angry-sounding screaming vocals and thrash-around type music that occasionally has a weird touch to it throughout the songs.

But I have come across something....

Bands such as Emery and a few others have been labeled on Windows Media Guide as post-hardcore as well as "screamo." The Windows Media Guide says Emery has "emotional and melodic sensitivity contrasting with the screaming vocals one associates with hardcore and metalcore." If this is true, could we also label bands such as Thursday, Senses Fail, and Matchbook Romance under the screamo category, due to their occasional back-up vocal screaming? Or are they just referring to lead vocals here?

A-Life-Less-Plagued · 02-11-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XemoXmoshXpitX

could we also label bands such as Thursday, Senses Fail, and Matchbook Romance under the screamo category, due to their occasional back-up vocal screaming?

No.

I can't answer anything else because I have no idea what Emery sound like.

BridgeToSolace · 02-11-2005, 05:05 PM

You can't trust most media to give you accurate descriptions of bands. Especially Windows.

The "screamo" label is commonly misinterpreted and miss-used. When someone was calling Circle Takes The Square and Pg. 99 screamo, it's because they know what they are talking about.

When someone calls Emery, Thursday, Senses Fail, and (especially) Matchbook Romance screamo, it's a sign of ignorance and not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

It's an understandable mistake. Screamo is a fairly unknown genre, and since everyone starting calling every pop-punk band that screamed a screamo band, the confusion has only increased.

Screamo is screaming. All of it. Punctuated by maybe the occasional sung, yelled, or spoken vocals.

***DFelon204409*** · 02-11-2005, 05:55 PM

*tags in*

emomoshpits with all them x's. It's not just the screaming that makes an emo/screamo band. Emo/screamo bands have distinctive sounds. On some songs, Daryl Palumbo of Glassjaw, employs screamo vocal tendencies like at the crescendo of "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Silence" but their songs are fairly clearly not screamo. Bands like Thursday, Senses Fail, and whatever poopy bands you want to throw at me are not going to be screamo because even if their vocals were balls out screaming the whole time (which is necessary for screamo), their songs would not feature grind-like chaos with some clean tone guitar and crazy song structure.

DeathHawk · 02-11-2005, 07:20 PM

I consider screamo to be emo mixed with grind type song structure.

Neil Perry!

***DFelon204409*** · 02-11-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathHawk

I consider screamo to be emo mixed with grind type song structure.

Neil Perry!

Then explain Circle Takes the Square. THey have more epic and grandiose song structure than most straight emo bands.

DeathHawk · 02-11-2005, 07:34 PM

Ha, torn actually goes around saying CTTS isn't traditional screamo and they should be looked at from a different view.

DeathHawk · 02-11-2005, 07:35 PM

And I agree with him.

to_hell_we_ride · 02-11-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XemoXmoshXpitX

If this is true, could we also label bands such as Thursday, Senses Fail, and Matchbook Romance under the screamo category, due to their occasional back-up vocal screaming? Or are they just referring to lead vocals here?

If we did that, then bands like Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance would be screamo...and they're not..at all. Lead vocals would be the focus because there's a bunch of bands in almost every genre that screams in the background, and they obviously don't apply to "screamo" at all.

tornpictures · 02-12-2005, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DFelon204409

Then explain Circle Takes the Square. THey have more epic and grandiose song structure than most straight emo bands.

Uhh, no.
That's not true.

02-12-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by to_hell_we_ride

Fall Out Boy

FOB is one of my favorite bands EVER.

***DFelon204409*** · 02-12-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tornpictures

Uhh, no.
That's not true.

Umm, yes. "A Crater to Cough In" is huger than any other emo song I can think of.

tornpictures · 02-12-2005, 10:59 AM

Have you heard September?

Guess not.

Rockafella · 02-12-2005, 11:07 AM

My friend says Dillinger Escape Plan is a screamo band but I think it's a grind-core band.
Could you help me clear this up?

***DFelon204409*** · 02-12-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tornpictures

Have you heard September?

Guess not.

How about we alleviate that. When I'm back from lunch I'll IM you.

k1ckthecat · 02-12-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by punkerx99

FOB is one of my favorite bands EVER.

post whore, that has nothing to do with the thread

tornpictures · 02-15-2005, 06:54 AM

Anyway, Circle Takes The Square have way more influences than just 'emo' or whatever.

Orchid, Neil Perry, Usurp Synapse, Jerome's Dream, those are all the real screamo bands to me.
It feels like that period is sort of over.

***DFelon204409*** · 02-15-2005, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tornpictures

Anyway, Circle Takes The Square have way more influences than just 'emo' or whatever.

Orchid, Neil Perry, Usurp Synapse, Jerome's Dream, those are all the real screamo bands to me.
It feels like that period is sort of over.

Blah, everybody knows that. Circle Takes the Square is just the best screamo band. Most bands that are the best transcend genres and categorizable sound. Oh ya, by great I don't mean to suggest that you are forced to conform to like them but I'm saying that they're hugely important. As the Roots Undo achieves so much for screamo because its experimentation with progressive rock and ambient melodic sections is what helps it be more accessible to random people. They're one of the few bands who uses accessibility to their own help and not hindrance. They now have tons of fans and well....don't suck.

tornpictures · 02-15-2005, 08:14 AM

They're known to be pretty anti-social at shows.

***DFelon204409*** · 02-15-2005, 10:24 AM

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They're known to be pretty anti-social at shows.

Weird. I'd attribute that to awkward modesty. I left a comment on their myspace wall and the bassist Kathy responded with a lengthy message about how they really appreciated my comment and all this stuff about possible tours and that they didn't know quite what they were doing. She was really open and kind so they're probably just people who only know how to have friends over the internet. What losers. I'm not like that at all...

02-11-2005, 04:57 PM	#1
XemoXmoshXpitX Their old stuff is better Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: york, PA Posts: 1,560	"Screamo" Okay, I understand many bands with the same type of music and vocals as Circle Takes the Square and Pg. 99 are labeled screamo. They are fairly chaotic with angry-sounding screaming vocals and thrash-around type music that occasionally has a weird touch to it throughout the songs. But I have come across something.... Bands such as Emery and a few others have been labeled on Windows Media Guide as post-hardcore as well as "screamo." The Windows Media Guide says Emery has "emotional and melodic sensitivity contrasting with the screaming vocals one associates with hardcore and metalcore." If this is true, could we also label bands such as Thursday, Senses Fail, and Matchbook Romance under the screamo category, due to their occasional back-up vocal screaming? Or are they just referring to lead vocals here?

02-11-2005, 05:55 PM	#4
*DFelon204409* i want tha gold Supermod Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 14,900	tags in emomoshpits with all them x's. It's not just the screaming that makes an emo/screamo band. Emo/screamo bands have distinctive sounds. On some songs, Daryl Palumbo of Glassjaw, employs screamo vocal tendencies like at the crescendo of "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Silence" but their songs are fairly clearly not screamo. Bands like Thursday, Senses Fail, and whatever poopy bands you want to throw at me are not going to be screamo because even if their vocals were balls out screaming the whole time (which is necessary for screamo), their songs would not feature grind-like chaos with some clean tone guitar and crazy song structure.
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02-11-2005, 05:05 PM	#3
BridgeToSolace Informal Armistace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston (Northeastern U) Posts: 13,830	You can't trust most media to give you accurate descriptions of bands. Especially Windows. The "screamo" label is commonly misinterpreted and miss-used. When someone was calling Circle Takes The Square and Pg. 99 screamo, it's because they know what they are talking about. When someone calls Emery, Thursday, Senses Fail, and (especially) Matchbook Romance screamo, it's a sign of ignorance and not knowing what the hell you're talking about. It's an understandable mistake. Screamo is a fairly unknown genre, and since everyone starting calling every pop-punk band that screamed a screamo band, the confusion has only increased. Screamo is screaming. All of it. Punctuated by maybe the occasional sung, yelled, or spoken vocals.

02-11-2005, 07:20 PM	#5
DeathHawk Uriel Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,935	I consider screamo to be emo mixed with grind type song structure. Neil Perry!

02-11-2005, 07:34 PM	#7
DeathHawk Uriel Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,935	Ha, torn actually goes around saying CTTS isn't traditional screamo and they should be looked at from a different view.

02-11-2005, 07:35 PM	#8
DeathHawk Uriel Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,935	And I agree with him.

02-12-2005, 10:59 AM	#13
tornpictures i want to cover my eyes Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,568	Have you heard September? Guess not.

02-12-2005, 11:07 AM	#14
Rockafella rep if you like cookies Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SEXVILLE Posts: 2,759	My friend says Dillinger Escape Plan is a screamo band but I think it's a grind-core band. Could you help me clear this up?

02-15-2005, 06:54 AM	#17
tornpictures i want to cover my eyes Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,568	Anyway, Circle Takes The Square have way more influences than just 'emo' or whatever. Orchid, Neil Perry, Usurp Synapse, Jerome's Dream, those are all the real screamo bands to me. It feels like that period is sort of over.

02-15-2005, 08:14 AM	#19
tornpictures i want to cover my eyes Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,568	They're known to be pretty anti-social at shows.