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RushHourSoul · 01-09-2005, 02:28 PM

I understood it, electronics on your kit rock. My friend has the SPDS and I was trying to persuade him to let me borrow it! It's a great addition to any kit.

01-09-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the_uber_penguin

Remember kids...a few drummers are clever then the jokes make them out to be.

beleive me, some are.

SonorKen · 01-09-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FatherKeeL

whats a rototom?

A roto-tom is a drum that usually comes in a set of 3. They are tuned by rotating the head. Clockwise the drum becomes higher pitched, counter clockwise the tone lowers. You can see some Roto-toms in the D&P section of the site. I did an interview with CrazyDrummer4562 and in his interview he posted pictures of his kit with Roto-toms.

Here is the pic of the roto-toms.

I love the sound of Roto-toms. My kit is too large to add Roto-toms or just about anything else. With the electronics in my kit I can assign Roto-tom .wav files to a set of pads and play them as if I had a set of actual Roto-toms.

I use this technology alot. In alot of The Eagles songs I put in steel drum sounds, and add alot of percussion things to a bunch of songs.

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Originally Posted by tallicafan1

lol i didnt understand any of that

hahaha its really simple. Every electronic drum sound is a wave file. These are known as .wav files. You can get them anywhere. I took my SPDS, a microphone, a XLR cable, and a extension cord to Lowes (a home improvement store). I put it all in a shopping cart and walked around Lowes banging on stuff. When I found a really cool sound I plugged in the SPDS, sampled the sound and moved on. When I returned I uploaded all of these sounds into my laptop and edited them with Cooledit Pro into usable drum .wav files.

Basically this is how it works. Lets say you and I are friends. You have an antique cowbell that has a totally unique sound. I love the sound of the cowbell, you won't sell it. I bring my SPDS to your house, put my mic on it and strike the cowbell. I now have that exact cowbell sound stored as a .wav file. Next time I am playing a show I assign that .wav file to a certain drum pad. When I strike that pad it makes that unique antique cowbell sound.

All of these .wav files are organized into "patches". A patch is a collection of .wav files that are assigned to individial electronic drum pads. I have 11 drum pads on my kit that I can assign .wav files to.

A perfect example as to how I use this is Tool's Aenema. In the beginning of the song Maynard says, "Hey" 9 times. I have this sampled in my SPDS. When we play a show I strike the pad it is assigned to and Maynards voice comes through the PA and does the 9 heys.
A even better example is Crazy Train by Ozzy. I have him sampled saying, "ALL ABOARD!" then the "AYE AYE AYE" and then I have the exact Vibraslap used in that song sampled. These are 3 seperate .wav files. They are stored on my laptop in a patch called, Ozzy. When we are getting close to the song in the show my drum tech will load the patch and when we start the song it is ready to go.

***Aes820*** · 01-09-2005, 08:49 PM

..And it's a whole heap easier for gigs. No need to waste 20 channels and 2 hours of sound check time, micing up everything on the kit.
Just plug into the desk direct and you're right to go.

SonorKen · 01-09-2005, 09:12 PM

Yea, it saves alot of time. I use about 13 mics on my kit, depending on the situation. Drum check usually takes about 15 minutes so its not that bad. We know about where the sliders should be, it is usually just fitting the sound into the venue.

***Aes820*** · 01-09-2005, 09:24 PM

Has your band got your own sound tech, Ken?

SonorKen · 01-09-2005, 09:59 PM

Yea, we have a full time sound tech. He is killer, makes us sound like a cd.

the_uber_penguin · 01-10-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SonorKen

<SNIP>

Basically this is how it works. Lets say you and I are friends...

<SNIP>

Ok.

"You and I are friends"

I love the way you make is sound that you really don't want to be friends with that tallicafan1.

01-10-2005, 02:32 PM

my drummer has rototoms, they're pretty cool.

KKKKKocaine · 01-11-2005, 03:46 AM

It is my birthday.

Nightvision · 01-11-2005, 04:49 AM

happy birthday!

KKKKKocaine · 01-11-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason101

happy birthday!

Tah Brah.

Nightvision · 01-11-2005, 04:57 AM

question - is this a good buy?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3773116029

KKKKKocaine · 01-11-2005, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason101

question - is this a good buy?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3773116029

I've never heard of the MT120, but considering the price and the features it seems to have, you appear to have struck a very amazing bargain.

Nightvision · 01-11-2005, 05:02 AM

Well that was what I thought... I was half expecting to come on here to be told it's a pile of crap that was ridiculed the world over or something...

If I was a generous guy, that'd be your birthday present. As it is, I'm not, and it's not.

KKKKKocaine · 01-11-2005, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason101

Well that was what I thought... I was half expecting to come on here to be told it's a pile of crap that was ridiculed the world over or something...

If I was a generous guy, that'd be your birthday present. As it is, I'm not, and it's not.

Pfft I have stars, What else could I possibly need?

What you wanting to use the multitrack for?

Nightvision · 01-11-2005, 05:11 AM

just general recording really - don't think it'll be much use for recording the entire band, (2-3 guitars, 2 singers plus the usual bass n' drums) but I reckon it'll do a job for acoustic songs/musical notepad work.

KKKKKocaine · 01-11-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason101

just general recording really - don't think it'll be much use for recording the entire band, (2-3 guitars, 2 singers plus the usual bass n' drums) but I reckon it'll do a job for acoustic songs/musical notepad work.

Get an external mixer like a Behringer UB1202, that wil lgive you 4 XLR inputs for the drums, Record drums on track one, record bass and rythmn guitar on track 2, record lead guitar on track three, then record both the vocals on track 4.

Nightvision · 01-11-2005, 05:25 AM

So - you say you play drums and vocals, KK - same time?

KKKKKocaine · 01-11-2005, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason101

So - you say you play drums and vocals, KK - same time?

Nah, seperate, I sing for one band and drum for another.

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01-09-2005, 02:28 PM	#41
RushHourSoul prost! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,568	I understood it, electronics on your kit rock. My friend has the SPDS and I was trying to persuade him to let me borrow it! It's a great addition to any kit.

01-09-2005, 08:49 PM	#44
*Aes820* Moderator Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Straya Posts: 18,109	..And it's a whole heap easier for gigs. No need to waste 20 channels and 2 hours of sound check time, micing up everything on the kit. Just plug into the desk direct and you're right to go.

01-09-2005, 09:12 PM	#45
SonorKen Out of the dark we came Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: That hissing sound, behind you......... Posts: 19,951	Yea, it saves alot of time. I use about 13 mics on my kit, depending on the situation. Drum check usually takes about 15 minutes so its not that bad. We know about where the sliders should be, it is usually just fitting the sound into the venue.

01-09-2005, 09:24 PM	#46
*Aes820* Moderator Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Straya Posts: 18,109	Has your band got your own sound tech, Ken?

01-09-2005, 09:59 PM	#47
SonorKen Out of the dark we came Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: That hissing sound, behind you......... Posts: 19,951	Yea, we have a full time sound tech. He is killer, makes us sound like a cd.

01-10-2005, 02:32 PM	#49
moaner Guest Posts: n/a	my drummer has rototoms, they're pretty cool.

01-11-2005, 03:46 AM	#50
KKKKKocaine Farang. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: England Posts: 7,018	It is my birthday.

01-11-2005, 04:49 AM	#51
Nightvision Loves The Trends You Hate Join Date: May 2004 Location: 52 32.6N 001 43.7E Posts: 4,529	happy birthday!

01-11-2005, 04:57 AM	#53
Nightvision Loves The Trends You Hate Join Date: May 2004 Location: 52 32.6N 001 43.7E Posts: 4,529	question - is this a good buy? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3773116029

01-11-2005, 05:02 AM	#55
Nightvision Loves The Trends You Hate Join Date: May 2004 Location: 52 32.6N 001 43.7E Posts: 4,529	Well that was what I thought... I was half expecting to come on here to be told it's a pile of crap that was ridiculed the world over or something... If I was a generous guy, that'd be your birthday present. As it is, I'm not, and it's not.

01-11-2005, 05:11 AM	#57
Nightvision Loves The Trends You Hate Join Date: May 2004 Location: 52 32.6N 001 43.7E Posts: 4,529	just general recording really - don't think it'll be much use for recording the entire band, (2-3 guitars, 2 singers plus the usual bass n' drums) but I reckon it'll do a job for acoustic songs/musical notepad work.

01-11-2005, 05:25 AM	#59
Nightvision Loves The Trends You Hate Join Date: May 2004 Location: 52 32.6N 001 43.7E Posts: 4,529	So - you say you play drums and vocals, KK - same time?