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Old 11-03-2004, 05:26 PM   #1
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Boxing and Martial Arts Thread

A thread for everyone who does boxing or other martial arts to discuss, training, techniques, ask about other arts discuss the sports e.t.c.
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:27 PM   #2
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I do boxing, I've been in boxing with my 2 partners for about 5 months.
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:29 PM   #3
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I used to martial arts (Tae Kwon Do and eventually Kempo) but I quick a few years back. I really enjoyed it though. I took it since I was 5 and quit when I was 12, was a black belt by then. My old teacher may reopen a school, so I'll defnitely be joining back up again.
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:33 PM   #4
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Funny thing about karate is that you never use it in a fight because it's useless.
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:36 PM   #5
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Fencing for 3 years. Epee, for preference. Haven't done much in the way of tournaments this last year due to exams and coursework, and such.
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:44 PM   #6
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Funny thing about karate is that you never use it in a fight because it's useless.
Did you ever take it? If you did you went to a bad school because there are tons of practical applications taught. Of course you shouldn't close handed punch, or kick above waste level, but any quality Black Belt realizes that and knows how to fight.

I am working towards Second Degree by the way. Too many styles to list.
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:47 PM   #7
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Did you ever take it? If you did you went to a bad school because there are tons of practical applications taught. Of course you shouldn't close handed punch, or kick above waste level, but any quality Black Belt realizes that and knows how to fight.

I am working towards Second Degree by the way. Too many styles to list.
It's a non defensive head on way of fighting, i would never use it in a street fight, i'll gladly box anyone who wants to use karate on me.
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It's a non defensive head on way of fighting, i would never use it in a street fight, i'll gladly box anyone who wants to use karate on me.
It can be defensive, my style of fighting is very defensive. I would feel comfortable in a street fight because I can fight off an opponent, and I can fight far, close, and on the ground. I would love to see a boxer end up in a ground fight.
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It can be defensive, my style of fighting is very defensive. I would feel comfortable in a street fight because I can fight off an opponent, and I can fight far, close, and on the ground. I would love to see a boxer end up in a ground fight.
I also specialize in ground fighting.
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Old 11-03-2004, 07:39 PM   #10
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It was really good when I was a little kid. We were taught mainly displine which led to better behavior and how to get away from kidnappers and such. I don't think I'd ever need to use it in a fight.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:55 PM   #11
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does wrestling count? ive been doing that for 5 years, and i took tai kwon doe when i was like 7
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:53 AM   #14
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i dont take martial arts but i watch alot of em. i am curious if the books teaching martial arts are any good? i am interested in learning some things but i don't have enough time to take classes.
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:49 AM   #15
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It can be defensive, my style of fighting is very defensive. I would feel comfortable in a street fight because I can fight off an opponent, and I can fight far, close, and on the ground. I would love to see a boxer end up in a ground fight.
Watch Ali fight, boxers work on their footwork all the time, Karate and not even kickboxer practitioners work on their footwork, A Boxer is not easy to hit, Like it or not, Boxers train harder than most other martial arts, We do not have the liberty of a high roundhouse into a spinning hook kick to catch our opponents out, When you can, jab, cross, uppercut and hook, you have to learn to be fast and very talented when it comes to picking your targets, we also have to learn to move like sin.
At my kickboxing class, we train with 5 brown belt and up Karate guys and gals, We do not work on foot work, in fact, the entire kickboxing and karate stances are not designed with fast footwork in mind, Believe me, you could not down a decent boxer, you simply would not be able to catch them out.

I believe what PDBM was saying, was that Karate teaches alot of techniques that are not useful in a fight, for example, most kicks are next to useless in a fight, I am sure we will agree on this, Unless you kick with your shin, your chances of doing any damage unless you are highly skilled is nil.
Now this is my main gripe with Karate, whilst the techniques are sound, ridge hand e.t.c.
The manner in which Karate is taught very rarely involves strength training like boxers and thai boxers endure, strength training is an integral part of boxing, in Karate it is overlooked, and often the best Karate fighters are not the ones with the blackest belt, but the heavist ones who can throw more weight with a punch.

Having said that though, Karate does have some useful techniques, However, we should not fight in the first page of the thread

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Aye that it does, I've been trying to find a local wrestling school, but being the UK it's near impossible to find one.

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i dont take martial arts but i watch alot of em. i am curious if the books teaching martial arts are any good? i am interested in learning some things but i don't have enough time to take classes.
They can help, but they will never replace real training, also you need to be careful of learning the techniques incorrectly or overstretching, If you are going to learn from a book, you'll need to ask other practitioners of that art what exercices and such that they do to warm up and develop better speed.
So in short, You probably can learn from the book, but you're much better off at a school.
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:59 AM   #16
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I missed out on doing martial arts when I was younger due to severe ignorance and being naive. Now I wanna start learning any sites I should look at for classes etc?

Who woulda thought it, me being ignorant and naive?
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I missed out on doing martial arts when I was younger due to severe ignorance and being naive. Now I wanna start learning any sites I should look at for classes etc?

Who woulda thought it, me being ignorant and naive?
Probably the best thing to do, would be to look at what kind of style you want, think about how much fitness you want to put in, whether you want an art that relies on strength or that doesn't require extra strength to be good at, whether it is spiritual, competetive or self defense, and then look at if there are any in your area.

http://martialarts.about.com/cs/martialarts101/a/ChoosingAStyle.htm

That site may help, also, when you have found an art, if you are doing it for self defense, the best thing to do is to ask other pupils of that art whether they think it is effective.
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Probably the best thing to do, would be to look at what kind of style you want, think about how much fitness you want to put in, whether you want an art that relies on strength or that doesn't require extra strength to be good at, whether it is spiritual, competetive or self defense, and then look at if there are any in your area.

http://martialarts.about.com/cs/martialarts101/a/ChoosingAStyle.htm

That site may help, also, when you have found an art, if you are doing it for self defense, the best thing to do is to ask other pupils of that art whether they think it is effective.
Thanks. Ideally something that is spiritual but can also back me up in those rare occasions trouble kicks off.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:19 AM   #19
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I took Thai kickboxing for about a year. My instructor really pushed us on the breathing techniques and our flexibility. It was really fun, though.

My instructor tells me that Thai kickboxing is rougher than the normal kicboxing (American? Don't know.) True/false?
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I took Thai kickboxing for about a year. My instructor really pushed us on the breathing techniques and our flexibility. It was really fun, though.

My instructor tells me that Thai kickboxing is rougher than the normal kicboxing (American? Don't know.) True/false?
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