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Old 10-31-2004, 10:24 AM   #1
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Muse and Radiohead - The same?

This is inspired by a comment in the Flaming Lips thread about Radiohead and Muse sounding the same and that Muse are a poor man's Radiohead.
This is my argument:
I have all albums from both bands and the fact is Muse, for a majority of the time, are based on energy and catchy riffs, yes they have become a bit more alt. and moved away from their rock roots with 'Absolution' but underneath they are still the same, whilst Radiohead alot of the time are based on melodies and lyrics in my eyes. They have a karma about them that Muse don't, also Radiohead, again in my eyes, are alot more experimental and 'alt.' than Muse, I mean look at the other stuff they have done outside the band, Greendwood for example wrote a whole soundtrack for a movie and the whole band messed around with samples and such for a ballet to dance to.

anyways I have other points but Im too tired...
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Old 10-31-2004, 10:47 AM   #2
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Old 10-31-2004, 10:59 AM   #3
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:19 PM   #4
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I really have to disagree, because Radiohead are boring and Muse are not...

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The only similarity is their voices.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:01 PM   #6
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I really have to disagree, because Radiohead are boring and Muse are not...

*awaits flaming*
/flames

I kinda didnt understand this thread. Muse and Radiohead are different, its a fact.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:21 PM   #7
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Muse have only been influenced by Radiohead in the music they play.

i don't see many similarities, only a few songs here and there. you could say that about most bands tho.
 
Old 10-31-2004, 03:22 PM   #8
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Muse have always sucked, and Radiohead put out two great albums before starting to suck. There's your difference.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:32 PM   #9
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I love radiohead

and have not listened to much Muse
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:49 PM   #10
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The only similarity is their voices.
Exactly.

Another difference is that Muse have made 3 great records, while Radiohead have made 3 genius records, 2 great ones and one pretty average one.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:52 PM   #11
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Am i the only person in Alt/Indie who really isn't bothered about Radiohead?
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:01 PM   #12
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:37 PM   #13
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No no no, you're all wrong.

The facts of the matter are thus: Muse put out one great album and 2 mediocre albums, and Radiohead put out one great album, 2 pretty darn good albums, and 3 albums that I won't even give the time of day to.

Don't deny it, it's scientifically proven.
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:43 PM   #14
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No no no, you're all wrong.
Don't state your opinion as if it were a fact.


Radiohead and Muse are two different bands period.
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:43 PM   #15
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I see Muse as kindof a "poppy" version of Radiohead. Muse is really easy to get into, while Radiohead is not as easy to get into. However, in the End, Muse will get boring, but Radiohead will continue to BURN strongly in our hearts.

Another example of this comparison is : Nirvana to Smashing Pumpkins

Anyway...yeah...vocal style is one similarity indeed. Muse is way more rockin and energetic than Radiohead. Too many people don't listen beyond vocals these days.
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:55 PM   #16
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Don't state your opinion as if it were a fact.


Radiohead and Muse are two different bands period.
Don't treat my nonserious post as if I were stating a fact. (See also: "How to Calibrate Your Sarcastometer", "Help! How to Set a Broken Funny Bone When Backpacking Through the Wilderness", or the controversial paper of that crackpot Dr. K. Kazman, "A Man Without Humour is a Man Without a Soul and Should be Burned at the Stake After Several Kicks to the Shin Have Been Administered".)
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Old 10-31-2004, 05:48 PM   #17
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Another example of this comparison is : Nirvana to Smashing Pumpkins

I've never noticed a single similarity between these two bands.
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Old 10-31-2004, 05:51 PM   #18
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Is this a second account, or are you my favourite new person on these forums? And Muse and Radiohead are only similar in that Bellamy's and Yorke's voices can be very similar...the music itself is very different, with Muse being heavier and more riff-oriented at every stage than Radiohead.
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Old 10-31-2004, 06:52 PM   #19
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They're both British. And they're both very good bands. Different from each other, yes, but both very good.


I'll admit the first time I heard Absolution I thought the vocals were similar. After that I realized they are very different.
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Muse have always sucked, and Radiohead put out two great albums before starting to suck. There's your difference.
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Old 10-31-2004, 07:00 PM   #21
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Remember that all these comparisons happened because Muse broke onto the scene at a time when Radiohead were simply the biggest thing around, and EVERYONE got compared to them. Travis got it, Coldplay got it, Mansun got it, and Muse got it.
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Old 10-31-2004, 07:30 PM   #22
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I can't stand either of them, so that's a similarity.
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Old 10-31-2004, 08:39 PM   #23
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Basless, useless thread.
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Old 10-31-2004, 08:46 PM   #24
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Yes. They are exactly the same.
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Old 11-01-2004, 06:36 AM   #25
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I thought they were the same band.
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Old 11-01-2004, 09:15 AM   #26
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They are both very good but I prefer Muse - I can't see much similar between them except they are both bands that are a kinda 'aquired taste'
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I see Muse as kindof a "poppy" version of Radiohead. Muse is really easy to get into, while Radiohead is not as easy to get into. However, in the End, Muse will get boring, but Radiohead will continue to BURN strongly in our hearts.

Another example of this comparison is : Nirvana to Smashing Pumpkins

Anyway...yeah...vocal style is one similarity indeed. Muse is way more rockin and energetic than Radiohead. Too many people don't listen beyond vocals these days.
i've always thought of muse as radiohead with nitrous oxide.
but yeah, i got bored with muse after 1 album, the initial effect kind of wore off on me and i was no longer impressed.

radiohead have a much more promising future than muse, they just need to stop being so f.ucking miserable..
i really need to see them live tho, apparently that's when it all comes together and makes sense so i'm told by my fellow band members.
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The influence is obviously there, but I don't think they are the same, at all. I find Muse a lot more enjoyable personally.
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Old 11-01-2004, 12:21 PM   #29
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i like both, ive seen both, i am uncool.
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Love both, but never even understand the comparisons. it's bizarre to me.
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