Fast scaling tips

Drop_D'd · 10-17-2004, 03:18 PM

Ok, im sure a lot of you here play some Muse, right?

Well, on Butterflies and Hurricanes, the middle piano instrumental thing, i have the sheet music, but I cant seem to get the big up and down scales right. Does anyone have any tips for helping to nail this and increase my speed to the speed that Matt plays it at?

Cheers, Karl

PDWAB · 10-17-2004, 04:01 PM

I haven't tried to play it, but in general, take your time in figuring out the fingering for the scales and practice slowly, with a metronome, and work your way up.

Cecillianne · 10-18-2004, 05:56 AM

I've got the most fantastical strategy how!

The old fashioned way. Metronomes, play it slower and increase your way up, and lots of practice. I'd love to tell you that giving you a tip would magically help increase your speed, but it's near impossible :-/

*punk_rock_sophie* · 10-19-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Drop_D'd

Ok, im sure a lot of you here play some Muse, right?

Well, on Butterflies and Hurricanes, the middle piano instrumental thing, i have the sheet music, but I cant seem to get the big up and down scales right. Does anyone have any tips for helping to nail this and increase my speed to the speed that Matt plays it at?

Cheers, Karl

im having the exact same prob!! its sooo fast!

clearvision · 10-22-2004, 03:43 PM

I'm gonna have a go at that one day...I find it funny in the video where he uses his whole hand to push loadsa notes down.

*punk_rock_sophie* · 10-22-2004, 04:02 PM

the video is amazing!!!!!

Piano Thing · 10-23-2004, 07:40 PM

Soak your fingers in a soothing eucalyptus solution, then take them out and wrap them around each other, then sit on them for half an hour. You'll be playing like bellamy in no time!

I love Muse · 10-23-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Piano Thing

Soak your fingers in a soothing eucalyptus solution, then take them out and wrap them around each other, then sit on them for half an hour. You'll be playing like bellamy in no time!

I agree with that 100%. That's what I did.

*punk_rock_sophie* · 10-24-2004, 04:45 AM

what is eucalyptus solution and where can i get it!?

Shagz · 10-24-2004, 05:48 AM

well by forcing yourself to play fast will only make your body wear itself out faster it you sit down and do a slow tune you shall get it in the end.
But if that bit is extremely hard make your own bit for it might sound better to yourself that way.

SocoAmarettoLime70x7 · 10-26-2004, 10:24 AM

A big part of scaling is playing the scale with the correct fingering. Make sure your fingers are in the right places so that you don't "trip" over yourself. Your fingers are "numbered" 1 - 5, with 1 being the thumb and then consecutively through 5 at the pinky. So, in the key of C major, the correct fingering is:
1 2 3 1 2 3 4 1
C D E F G A B C
But the fingering changes based on the key you're playing in... maybe this is too much theory for you, but it's just a suggestion.

PianoDan · 10-26-2004, 07:53 PM

The only way you'll be able to play the interlude to Butterflies and Hurricanes at full speed is if you have a strong enough technique. To build up your technique, practice scales and, especially, arpeggios (as they're arpeggios in the interlude, not scales). Start slowly and build up, otherwise it's simply a waste of time. Do about 10 minutes a day, every day, for a few months, and you might start building it up a bit.

I can play B&H at full speed, but I have been trained in classical piano for 13 and a half years - that's the only reason. If you're just someone who has a hack every now and then for fun, and doesn't really play much classical, it will be much harder to do.

10-17-2004, 03:18 PM	#1
Drop_D'd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wigan, England Posts: 234	Fast scaling tips Ok, im sure a lot of you here play some Muse, right? Well, on Butterflies and Hurricanes, the middle piano instrumental thing, i have the sheet music, but I cant seem to get the big up and down scales right. Does anyone have any tips for helping to nail this and increase my speed to the speed that Matt plays it at? Cheers, Karl

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10-17-2004, 04:01 PM	#2
PDWAB Rock It Out Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: University of Washington Posts: 18,060	I haven't tried to play it, but in general, take your time in figuring out the fingering for the scales and practice slowly, with a metronome, and work your way up.

10-18-2004, 05:56 AM	#3
Cecillianne oh yeah i don't give a fu Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: sarcasm bounces off my marshmellowy outer shell Posts: 885	I've got the most fantastical strategy how! The old fashioned way. Metronomes, play it slower and increase your way up, and lots of practice. I'd love to tell you that giving you a tip would magically help increase your speed, but it's near impossible :-/

10-22-2004, 03:43 PM	#5
clearvision Registered Loser Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,337	I'm gonna have a go at that one day...I find it funny in the video where he uses his whole hand to push loadsa notes down.

10-22-2004, 04:02 PM	#6
punk_rock_sophie ..no longer likes punk Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: london Posts: 1,618	the video is amazing!!!!!

10-23-2004, 07:40 PM	#7
Piano Thing ashtray girl Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: England Posts: 82	Soak your fingers in a soothing eucalyptus solution, then take them out and wrap them around each other, then sit on them for half an hour. You'll be playing like bellamy in no time!

10-24-2004, 04:45 AM	#9
punk_rock_sophie ..no longer likes punk Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: london Posts: 1,618	what is eucalyptus solution and where can i get it!?

10-24-2004, 05:48 AM	#10
Shagz The End Beautiful Friend Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 66	well by forcing yourself to play fast will only make your body wear itself out faster it you sit down and do a slow tune you shall get it in the end. But if that bit is extremely hard make your own bit for it might sound better to yourself that way.

10-26-2004, 10:24 AM	#11
SocoAmarettoLime70x7 Lizbeth means I'm crazy! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Southwestern United States of America... Posts: 174	A big part of scaling is playing the scale with the correct fingering. Make sure your fingers are in the right places so that you don't "trip" over yourself. Your fingers are "numbered" 1 - 5, with 1 being the thumb and then consecutively through 5 at the pinky. So, in the key of C major, the correct fingering is: 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 1 C D E F G A B C But the fingering changes based on the key you're playing in... maybe this is too much theory for you, but it's just a suggestion.

10-26-2004, 07:53 PM	#12
PianoDan Soli Deo Gloria Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,605	The only way you'll be able to play the interlude to Butterflies and Hurricanes at full speed is if you have a strong enough technique. To build up your technique, practice scales and, especially, arpeggios (as they're arpeggios in the interlude, not scales). Start slowly and build up, otherwise it's simply a waste of time. Do about 10 minutes a day, every day, for a few months, and you might start building it up a bit. I can play B&H at full speed, but I have been trained in classical piano for 13 and a half years - that's the only reason. If you're just someone who has a hack every now and then for fun, and doesn't really play much classical, it will be much harder to do.