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Old 10-28-2015, 04:34 PM   #48541
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Old 10-28-2015, 05:04 PM   #48542
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Any other player playing as badly as Rooney (e.g. Memphis) would be dropped, he is not untouchable, LVG needs to leave him out for the benefit of the team.

Personally I think he's finished, he's slow, he doesn't possess the "football brain" that allowed Scholes and Pirlo etc. to continue on, his first touch is gone, his passing is wayward both short and long. However ignoring that and just looking at form and form alone, he should be dropped.

He wasn't the only problem tonight, but this makes 14 games so far this season and I can't recall him having one good one and I do think it directly affects the team around him.

Memphis got dropped for effectively not wanting to pass to him, watch some of those early games again, if Martial is available, Memphis passed him the ball, they were developing a good understanding, watch when Rooney was the player in space, couple of passes where he fucked up and suddenly Memphis decides he's better off trying to take it on himself. Only a matter of time before other players do the same.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:21 PM   #48543
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they can't

they have made him such a massive part of their identity that the brand value would collapse.

by the way, the more sickening observation is, they have never fired wenger

how the fuck can you come back season after season and justify his ongoing ruination of a proud club?
If only we were all ruined so well.
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Old 10-29-2015, 02:40 AM   #48544
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auld frankie must be dead

rooney should've went when ferguson did.

lol. la galaxy have won the mls 3 out of the last 4 seasons. stevieg arrives and they go out early. lol
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:55 AM   #48545
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It's like you don't know anything about arsenal.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:54 PM   #48546
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:09 AM   #48547
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liverpool must have pathetic training content if they get so many players injured
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:16 PM   #48548
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A couple of the younger ones got crocked playing for England.
And Sturridge is semi-crocked for life it seems - actually, that all started when he played for England...

Liverpool might have a quality manager, but they are missing quality players. Where did all that money go eh Brendan?
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:45 PM   #48549
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:58 PM   #48550
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:55 AM   #48551
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Whether he wants to admit it or not, Jose is bricking it right now
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:00 AM   #48552
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It's getting embarrassing now. He's seriously in danger of getting fired
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:22 AM   #48553
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:26 AM   #48554
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Surprise surprise, he didn't want to talk about it.
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:51 AM   #48555
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:41 PM   #48556
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i reckon hes mad enough to have taken the job when he knew he could win at least the premiership in his first seaon back, get the owner to buy in more to his contract long term, and then reverse fuck chelsea for the way they treated him previously. only this time his payment if sacked is rumoured to be well above 10m

not a bad 18 months work for a man who is a cert to get a high profile job elsewhere.



we need a manager who doesn't think it is ok to put the most promising youngster in world football out on the left wing. when you have a perfectly good left winger on the bench and no striker.

it really is confusing
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:42 PM   #48557
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i'm a guessin' frankie has just woken up in a male brothel in piccadilly manchester with the mother of all hangovers since Wednesday
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Old 10-31-2015, 05:57 PM   #48558
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I know we joke that Jose has always been mad (in a mad scientist kind of way), but I'm actually starting to fear for his mental state of mind. He can't be so ridiculously ignorant and, well, crazy as he's being right now.
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Old 10-31-2015, 06:07 PM   #48559
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sure he can

its a tantrum. its what he does. and i love it. fuck chelsea. they don't belong. just like jose. premier league has killed him.
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:03 PM   #48560
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I'm concerned LVG is blind or oblivious to United's current dilemma. Scholes called us boring which I agree with but LVG says is wrong and we entertain him enough. Yet v Palace we manage one shot on target and 66% of our completed passes were sideways or backwards. Possession is good, but only when you make something of it. LVG's tactics seem to be hindering the team massively.

Also Rooney is terrible at the moment, I'm massively concerned that not only is he undroppable in LVG's eyes, he also is unsubbable by the looks of it, despite his poor performances, other players get sacrificed and he gets to play the full 90, even when he's pushed wide left and the winger we bring on is for Mata instead of him...
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:22 PM   #48561
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no leader at the moment. no emotion. no shots. i'm not expecting to click any time soon.

rooney isn't there. he'll go in the summer.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:38 PM   #48562
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Can't disagree with what you all stated re: Utd.

BUT the crazy thing is that Utd are currently 4th and only 4 points off top spot. How the hell do they have 21 points from 11 games with the way they've played!?
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Old 11-01-2015, 01:31 AM   #48563
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Their defense have tightened up massively, it's a great foundation to have. Shame about the rest.
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:16 AM   #48564
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they were actually playing well. martial playing up front with, depay, mata. herrara has played well. i think we are suffering because of lvg's desire to play rooney. drop him, play the german a little further forward in front of schneiderlin on the left, and alongside herrara on the right. the left to right - depay, martial and mata. leave rooney on the bench to see if he can get his head around not being god for a while. then swap in the three attacking young fellas.

the team feel when fellaini is brought on.
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Old 11-01-2015, 12:01 PM   #48565
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I'd even be tempted to go back to 4-4-2(1-1), we shouldn't need to play two holding midfielders against every team, could go:

de Gea
Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Rojo
Valencia, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Young
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Martial

Young and Mata's position changeable with Memphis. Lingard changeable with Valencia. Carrick and Schweinsteiger can cover Schneiderlin. Best of all, no lump it to Fellaini tactics!
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Old 11-01-2015, 12:34 PM   #48566
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rooney should break fellaini's leg and his own at the same time when lvg is trying them as a pair of centre backs in training
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Old 11-01-2015, 12:35 PM   #48567
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i wouldn't have young or valencia there unless as back up to depay and mata
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Old 11-01-2015, 02:19 PM   #48568
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rooney should break fellaini's leg and his own at the same time when lvg is trying them as a pair of centre backs in training
lol shouldn't laugh but yeah
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:11 PM   #48569
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not sure schweinsteiger should be played in advanced position -- that was what got them into trouble against arsenal. in fairness, i guess that was more a case of him moving out of position then lacking the pace or whatever to get back.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:34 PM   #48570
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he doesn't need so much pace. and he has a turn when he needs it. i'd have him closer to schniederlin than depay. we miss shaw to really make those triangles work. rojo aint up to it and blind is too slow given the slow german and how advanced i'd want depay to play. and a decent winger would skin anyone else we have out that side too.

Herrera amd mata ahead of darmian or valencia on the right seems ok. mata's lack of pace really means ithas to be valencia and he doesnt defend well.

it must be jones alongside smalling.

if de gea goes any time soon we have some serious buying to do

happy with the kids though
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