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big nothing
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Hardcore Community Thread
WE GOT THE POINT ACROSS!
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Good, this thread will probably do more good in here than R/M. Less morons and newbs.
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big nothing
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I would ask for it to be stickied but I doubt JmE is going to think it's very important, and I'm pretty positive Kithkin won't.
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No Fire In Our Eyes
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I didn't realize half those bands are considered Metalcore or Hardcore I always lumped it into one genre because I was too lazy to figure out who went where but you dumbed it down enough for me so thank you.
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God
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Grindcore in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Some bands in this catagory can also be known as Mathcore. Meaning they're more complex in the musical writings.
Grindcore bands: Napalm Death, Dillinger Escape Plan, Death, Carcass, The Locust, The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza Last edited by Let's Chop Cats!; 06-16-2004 at 10:12 PM. |
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God
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I'm no expert on that so someone add more if needed.
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Against Automation
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I remember you posting this in R&M.
I also remember it getting completely ignored with the exception of BuddyBigsby and I. |
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I don't feel like typing out a definition of screamo, because I know someone's going to ask it in here eventually, so if you want one:
Go to the pop-punk forum. Search for a thread titeld "REAL screamo" Voila. |
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i want tha gold
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For people's education we should also make a list of all of the professors on the subject who actually know what's going on. That way they won't be getting bogus info from some stupid n00b.
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We should have a thread like the metal forum has stickied, explaining all the genres that fall into this forum.
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big nothing
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Grindcore Bands:
Pig Destroyer, Agorphobic Nosebleed, Cock and Ball Torture... Sk8Ska, could you bold the word Grindcore on yours so people will notice that it's another explaination? |
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Quote:
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http://www.novarecordings.de/mp3/kaospilot_a_false_hollywood_promise.mp3 Neil Perry http://www.novarecordings.de/mp3/neil_perry-split_7inch-white_trash.mp3 |
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Vagitarian.
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what would you consider the Circle Jerks, then.
i've always considered them hardcore. |
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God
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Hardcore
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No Fire In Our Eyes
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Probably "Old Hardcore."
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Quote:
Give me a minute and I'll copy paste some stuff off of fourfa.com for emo/emocore/screamo |
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Emocore style has become broader over the years. In the beginning, these bands consisted mostly of people who played in hardcore punk bands, got burned out its limited forms, and moved to a guitar-oriented, midtempo rock-based sound with emotional punk vocals (i.e., no posed soulful crooning like pop music). The central aspect here is the guitars - distorted, strummed mostly in duo unison, with occasional catchy riff highlights. This becomes known as the classic "D.C. sound," along with the octave chords that show up in later "emo" music. Later bands bring in more pop elements, like catchy-riff based songs, pop song structures (listen to Jawbreaker's "Chesterfield King" to illustrate this), and less-punk, more-smoothly-sung high-register singing (less yelling, straining, throatiness). Listen to Elliot or Chamberlain for an example of how alternative-pop this music has become. Yet those bands are undeniably still emocore. Also note most emocore bands play Gibson Les Paul guitars, with a few SGs, and use mostly Marshall JCM-800 amps.
Emocore bands: Rites of Spring, Embrace, Gray Matter, Ignition, Dag Nasty, Monsula, Fugazi kind of, Fuel, Samiam, Jawbreaker, Hot Water Music, Elliot, Friction, Soulside, early Lifetime, Split Lip/Chamberlain, Kerosene 454 |
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God
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Emo is one of the most misunderstood genres of all time. Started 1988 post-Minor Threat. One of the most recognizable and universal elements of emo shows up in the guitar sound of this style: the octave chord. The vocal style is usually much more intense than emocore, ranging from normal singing in the quiet parts to a kind of pleading howl to gut-wrenching screams to actual sobbing and crying. Lyrics tend toward somewhat abstract poetry, and are usually low in the mix and hard to decipher.
Emo bands: Moss Icon, the Hated, Silver Bearings, Native Nod, Merel, Hoover, Current, Indian Summer, Evergreen, Navio Forge, Still Life, Shotmaker, Policy of Three, Clikatat Ikatowi, Maximillian Colby, Sleepytime Trio, Noneleftstanding, Embassy, Ordination of Aaron, Floodgate, Four Hundred Years, Frail, Lincoln, Julia, Shroomunion |
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But that FourFa definition doesn't cover the modern stuff. Might want to elaborate on that.
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big nothing
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I'll do it.
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