Betrayer/Heavy Metal

JeffofBetrayer · 01-04-2004, 05:22 PM

Metallicat1987 · 01-04-2004, 05:41 PM

I only have time to hear the first one, but I'm Really Diggin it! Sounds real kool.. i can see myself jamming to it

nice work. Except the singer.. the singer sounds like a punk singer for the most part of the song.. it might just be me.. Great song though Congratulations

~~BuddyBigsby~~ · 01-04-2004, 06:01 PM

I'm really digging this stuff, man. The guitar is great and it sort of reminds me of Iron Maiden or Manowar with less cheese. The only thing I would suggest is that your vocalist be just a little more into it, he sounds a little bored, but other than that he has a great voice. Congrats on keeping it heavy without screaming btw

iShotMyFinger · 01-04-2004, 06:05 PM

I really like the music but i'm not as into the singer but it sounds really good otherwise.

odio · 01-05-2004, 02:53 PM

listened to "fire to the coals".

sound's pretty good except like some others said, the singer, except the effect he had on his voice was pretty cool.

drums and guitars were fine though, like some others said iron maiden-esque

JeffofBetrayer · 01-08-2004, 12:41 AM

Thanks for the comments. I'm glad everyone liked something so far. I'm the singer/guitarist by the way and i also don't care for my singing all that much,lol (on that album anyways). Since that recording i think i'm much more pleased with the way my voice has developed. I think I've gained more expression & range.

Here's another song to check out (from the same CD) that features the vocals a bit more. There's some obvious problems such as some out of key (or wierd sounding) vocal harmonies and I don't really care for how the nylon string guitar tone turned out but other than that I think it's the best sounding song on the album. Just to warn you it's not a heavy track.

http://www.betrayer.ca/html/mp3/Betrayer_07_Sands_Of_Time.MP3

SkaterNick14 · 01-08-2004, 01:20 PM

Listened to the Sands of Time man that was awesome you guys really rock excellent phrasing on the solos to i listened to the other songs to and they were great you guys really know how to play excellent production to.

coldRaver · 01-08-2004, 02:51 PM

Descendants_Of_Death.MP3: Looks like you guys got some good reviews, my turn now

. The intro is clean, and it sounds like you guys have practiced (unlike other bands here

). I LOVE the trasitions from a phrase to another. I want to see your band's rig! Hey is that an electronic kit I hear? He/she is pretty good! The vocals are pretty right for the genre of music this is. I am liking the echo effect with it, makes it more creepier than it is

. Your bassist sounds nice and clean, VERY nice. You guys have your stuff together, start gigging if you haven't already! I see potential and (underground) stardom in the future!

Fire_To_The_Coals.MP3: Before I begin, I'd like to agree with the statement(s) above about the singer. He needs to get into it! Okay, here we go. I'm short for words, but this is great stuff. It's nice to hear a band's drummer on the forums here that can keep in time. I really like the fast tremolo little riffs. Vocalist: GET INTO IT!! You have a great band behind you, so you should be on FIRE with emotion!! Great guitar solo, I'm really enjoying everything from this band. You're drummer is amazing, I wish he were in my band

. Everything here is great, very very well done.

Rusted_Icons.MP3: Oh boy, I can't wait to hear this one. I can already assume it is going to be great. A bass solo with synth? That is a rare thing to hear! Rare, but very nice. Wait, that wasen't synth.. That was a clean guitar with a chorus effect maybe? Very nice job bass by keeping your riff going. Less vibrato in the vocals when he comes in. Wow, that was a nice transition from the clean to the dirty sound. Very nice. Again, less vibrato in the vocals would make it sound more like it needs to be in the song. Nothing more needed to be said, it is all very nice.

Sands_Of_Time.MP3: Very nice, clean guitar sound. Vocalist has a strong voice, always a plus. I like the solo, clean acoustic guitar sound. Very well put together song.

Overall ratings(out of 10):

Vocals: 7
Drums: 9
Guitar(s): 9
Bass: 9

MxShredder · 01-08-2004, 07:35 PM

dammit betrayer...i haven't got to see you live yet although i really wanted to, are you guys still with supernova?

GuitarDude570b · 01-08-2004, 09:02 PM

holy ****, you guys kick major ***, im listening to sands of time right now, thought u guys kickass from within the first 20 seconds of hearing it, mmmm, so good, sounds a LOT like alice in chains, omg, if your other songs r this good, then i think i found a new band to love

Metallicat1987 · 01-08-2004, 09:10 PM

Perhaps you should put the tab for those on here?

GuitarDude570b · 01-08-2004, 09:20 PM

mmm, just listened to descendants of death, really good ****, thats 2 songs that kickass, i believe u have a new fan

o and i can definately hear those influences in your music, especially megadeth, even the vocals (i actaully like the sound of these vocals better than mustaine)

JeffofBetrayer · 01-09-2004, 12:04 AM

"Hey is that an electronic kit I hear?" You got it, good ear!!!

"dammit betrayer...i haven't got to see you live yet although i really wanted to, are you guys still with supernova?" We'll be playing at the Hard Rock Cafe in Toronto on the 23rd if you're around then. We've been in contact with Supernova fairly recently and it looks like we might be involved in some Metal Fests they have planned for the upcoming year as well as hopefully something this summer at the Molson Amphitheatre again. Nothings booked yet but it looks promising.

"sounds a LOT like alice in chains" lol, that's what I thought too. Just the way some of those vocal harmonies are. Alice in Chains are a great band. I think your one of the first (if not the first) people who's brought up that connection. Cool!!!

Very insightful amazing reviews from everyone. Thanks, I really love reading peoples feedback on our music.

SkaterNick14 · 01-10-2004, 08:51 AM

wow bump because this is probably like the best band to ever post on this forum

MxShredder · 01-10-2004, 10:50 PM

did you guys record these over at machinehead studios? they definatly sound pro

JeffofBetrayer · 01-11-2004, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxShredder

did you guys record these over at machinehead studios? they definatly sound pro

Thanks, no we recorded them in Windsor at
[URL=http://www.spectresound.org]www.spectresound.org[/url]. Since then he's moved his studio and it looks really cool what he's done with it. He moved to a new house and converted the garage into a studio (there's pics on his site of the construction). We're planning on heading back there soon to cut a single for a possible video.

I think his production just keeps impoving, you can hear a big difference in quality if you compare the tracks I put up here to our Paranoid cover (which is available to download off our site). Paranoid was the latest thing we recorded there and I think the quality surpasses that of our Rusted Icons album (and it's been quite some time since we recorded Paranoid.....still at his old studio location) so I'm really looking forward to hearing how things will sound at his new facility.

Themadhatter · 01-11-2004, 03:54 PM

Ah Mother of God! You guys know how to ****ing rock! You are the best band I have come across on these forums by far. You alked about a Cd? Can I order it online? I would easily pay like $10 bucks or something for this. So far, I like Descendants of Death, that is ****ing rock, right there. The solo parts in the second song are amazing, and I think you guys easily have the potential to get big. Thats just my opinion, but let me know about the CD or availability or whatever, rock on dude.

JeffofBetrayer · 01-11-2004, 10:25 PM

Thanks for the great feedback Themadhatter!!! Yes, our Cd is available for purchase on our site. It's $10.95 CDN (which includes shipping & taxes). If there's any questions feel free to email me [email]jeff@betrayer.ca[/email]

HondoII · 01-12-2004, 12:51 PM

omg...not only were those songs awesome...but that Paranoid cover was fuckin kick ass!!!

Themadhatter · 01-12-2004, 02:18 PM

Agreed, Betrayer owns me and I am now a fanboy. I'm gunna order your album later on tonight, maybe the promotional package. I'll join the mailing list too, as I'm really interested in watching you guys go big. I've the songs you posted to my playlist, and am addicted to Fire to the Coals, because the first solo is the best I've heard in a LONG time. Deffinetley keep me updated how how things work out with you guys.

01-04-2004, 05:22 PM	#1
JeffofBetrayer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 72	Betrayer/Heavy Metal Here's some songs from my band to check out. New Single! http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=017 Headed For Disaster New Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYD_PWBj_9w Love is Pain (Live) Originals from the EP 'Shadowed Force' http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=014 Partaker of Evil http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=015 Burden of the Pacifist http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=016 Shadowed Force Originals from the album 'Rusted Icons' http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=001 Descendants of Death http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=002 Fire to the Coals http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=008 Rusted Icons Covers http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=010 Paranoid http://www.31.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?id=011 Holy Wars More songs are also available to download off our site at http://www31.betrayer.ca For anyone interested in purchasing these CD's please visit our online store http://www.31.betrayer.ca/shop.shtml thanks! Last edited by JeffofBetrayer; 05-28-2008 at 11:36 PM.

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01-04-2004, 05:41 PM	#2
Metallicat1987 Voice Of The Soul Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winona, Minnesota Posts: 407	I only have time to hear the first one, but I'm Really Diggin it! Sounds real kool.. i can see myself jamming to it nice work. Except the singer.. the singer sounds like a punk singer for the most part of the song.. it might just be me.. Great song though Congratulations

01-04-2004, 06:01 PM	#3
~~BuddyBigsby~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: inland empire Posts: 13,264	I'm really digging this stuff, man. The guitar is great and it sort of reminds me of Iron Maiden or Manowar with less cheese. The only thing I would suggest is that your vocalist be just a little more into it, he sounds a little bored, but other than that he has a great voice. Congrats on keeping it heavy without screaming btw

01-04-2004, 06:05 PM	#4
iShotMyFinger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 113	I really like the music but i'm not as into the singer but it sounds really good otherwise.

01-05-2004, 02:53 PM	#5
odio addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: headphones Posts: 220	listened to "fire to the coals". sound's pretty good except like some others said, the singer, except the effect he had on his voice was pretty cool. drums and guitars were fine though, like some others said iron maiden-esque

01-08-2004, 12:41 AM	#6
JeffofBetrayer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 72	Thanks for the comments. I'm glad everyone liked something so far. I'm the singer/guitarist by the way and i also don't care for my singing all that much,lol (on that album anyways). Since that recording i think i'm much more pleased with the way my voice has developed. I think I've gained more expression & range. Here's another song to check out (from the same CD) that features the vocals a bit more. There's some obvious problems such as some out of key (or wierd sounding) vocal harmonies and I don't really care for how the nylon string guitar tone turned out but other than that I think it's the best sounding song on the album. Just to warn you it's not a heavy track. http://www.betrayer.ca/html/mp3/Betrayer_07_Sands_Of_Time.MP3

01-08-2004, 01:20 PM	#7
SkaterNick14 are you experienced? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 4,079	Listened to the Sands of Time man that was awesome you guys really rock excellent phrasing on the solos to i listened to the other songs to and they were great you guys really know how to play excellent production to.

01-08-2004, 02:51 PM	#8
coldRaver i play guitar. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 70	Descendants_Of_Death.MP3: Looks like you guys got some good reviews, my turn now . The intro is clean, and it sounds like you guys have practiced (unlike other bands here ). I LOVE the trasitions from a phrase to another. I want to see your band's rig! Hey is that an electronic kit I hear? He/she is pretty good! The vocals are pretty right for the genre of music this is. I am liking the echo effect with it, makes it more creepier than it is . Your bassist sounds nice and clean, VERY nice. You guys have your stuff together, start gigging if you haven't already! I see potential and (underground) stardom in the future! Fire_To_The_Coals.MP3: Before I begin, I'd like to agree with the statement(s) above about the singer. He needs to get into it! Okay, here we go. I'm short for words, but this is great stuff. It's nice to hear a band's drummer on the forums here that can keep in time. I really like the fast tremolo little riffs. Vocalist: GET INTO IT!! You have a great band behind you, so you should be on FIRE with emotion!! Great guitar solo, I'm really enjoying everything from this band. You're drummer is amazing, I wish he were in my band . Everything here is great, very very well done. Rusted_Icons.MP3: Oh boy, I can't wait to hear this one. I can already assume it is going to be great. A bass solo with synth? That is a rare thing to hear! Rare, but very nice. Wait, that wasen't synth.. That was a clean guitar with a chorus effect maybe? Very nice job bass by keeping your riff going. Less vibrato in the vocals when he comes in. Wow, that was a nice transition from the clean to the dirty sound. Very nice. Again, less vibrato in the vocals would make it sound more like it needs to be in the song. Nothing more needed to be said, it is all very nice. Sands_Of_Time.MP3: Very nice, clean guitar sound. Vocalist has a strong voice, always a plus. I like the solo, clean acoustic guitar sound. Very well put together song. Overall ratings(out of 10): Vocals: 7 Drums: 9 Guitar(s): 9 Bass: 9

01-08-2004, 07:35 PM	#9
MxShredder (1 Viewing) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada :) Posts: 1,742	dammit betrayer...i haven't got to see you live yet although i really wanted to, are you guys still with supernova?

01-08-2004, 09:02 PM	#10
GuitarDude570b Twiggy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Illinios Posts: 259	holy **, you guys kick major *, im listening to sands of time right now, thought u guys kickass from within the first 20 seconds of hearing it, mmmm, so good, sounds a LOT like alice in chains, omg, if your other songs r this good, then i think i found a new band to love

01-08-2004, 09:10 PM	#11
Metallicat1987 Voice Of The Soul Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winona, Minnesota Posts: 407	Perhaps you should put the tab for those on here?

01-08-2004, 09:20 PM	#12
GuitarDude570b Twiggy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Illinios Posts: 259	mmm, just listened to descendants of death, really good ****, thats 2 songs that kickass, i believe u have a new fan o and i can definately hear those influences in your music, especially megadeth, even the vocals (i actaully like the sound of these vocals better than mustaine)

01-09-2004, 12:04 AM	#13
JeffofBetrayer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 72	"Hey is that an electronic kit I hear?" You got it, good ear!!! "dammit betrayer...i haven't got to see you live yet although i really wanted to, are you guys still with supernova?" We'll be playing at the Hard Rock Cafe in Toronto on the 23rd if you're around then. We've been in contact with Supernova fairly recently and it looks like we might be involved in some Metal Fests they have planned for the upcoming year as well as hopefully something this summer at the Molson Amphitheatre again. Nothings booked yet but it looks promising. "sounds a LOT like alice in chains" lol, that's what I thought too. Just the way some of those vocal harmonies are. Alice in Chains are a great band. I think your one of the first (if not the first) people who's brought up that connection. Cool!!! Very insightful amazing reviews from everyone. Thanks, I really love reading peoples feedback on our music.

01-10-2004, 08:51 AM	#14
SkaterNick14 are you experienced? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 4,079	wow bump because this is probably like the best band to ever post on this forum

01-10-2004, 10:50 PM	#15
MxShredder (1 Viewing) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada :) Posts: 1,742	did you guys record these over at machinehead studios? they definatly sound pro

01-11-2004, 03:54 PM	#17
Themadhatter Mustaine is God Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 616	Ah Mother of God! You guys know how to **ing rock! You are the best band I have come across on these forums by far. You alked about a Cd? Can I order it online? I would easily pay like $10 bucks or something for this. So far, I like Descendants of Death, that is **ing rock, right there. The solo parts in the second song are amazing, and I think you guys easily have the potential to get big. Thats just my opinion, but let me know about the CD or availability or whatever, rock on dude.

01-11-2004, 10:25 PM	#18
JeffofBetrayer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 72	Thanks for the great feedback Themadhatter!!! Yes, our Cd is available for purchase on our site. It's $10.95 CDN (which includes shipping & taxes). If there's any questions feel free to email me [email]jeff@betrayer.ca[/email]

01-12-2004, 12:51 PM	#19
HondoII Maiden Army Supreme Ruler Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,788	omg...not only were those songs awesome...but that Paranoid cover was fuckin kick ass!!!

01-12-2004, 02:18 PM	#20
Themadhatter Mustaine is God Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 616	Agreed, Betrayer owns me and I am now a fanboy. I'm gunna order your album later on tonight, maybe the promotional package. I'll join the mailing list too, as I'm really interested in watching you guys go big. I've the songs you posted to my playlist, and am addicted to Fire to the Coals, because the first solo is the best I've heard in a LONG time. Deffinetley keep me updated how how things work out with you guys.