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Old 03-20-2017, 12:36 PM   #10261
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Old 03-20-2017, 12:40 PM   #10262
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:20 PM   #10263
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Fellas, I urge you to read the Richard K. Morgan's superb Science Fition trilogy 'Takeshi Kovacs' before it's adapted into a Netflix series. I am certain Netflix will do a good job (as they usually do), but I just want to pursue as many people as possible to read the books first. Guess, that's how the GoT fans feel all the time about people who haven't read the books...
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:15 PM   #10264
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Thanks man, I'm just finishing off the Master and Margarita at the minute. There's so many translations too so the rec helps.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:07 PM   #10265
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could we get a more detailed review plz
Sure mate!

Basically a renowned biologist that has a cell model that shows how human intent/consciousness can change it's own DNA and cellular makeup. essentially showing that individual cells appear to have free will.

I first learned about Bruce Lipton over a year ago in an interview with Physicist that I follow (Tom Campbell) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjDQzCq6FdM
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:15 PM   #10266
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just started reading this for my great books course

read this just before

(actual manifesto is pretty short, had to slog through the 200 pg introduction first)

shit man did you get woke?
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:48 PM   #10267
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Old 03-22-2017, 03:27 AM   #10268
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no but im going to take to calling everyone i dont agree with philistines and opportunists like lenin does
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:00 AM   #10269
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do either of them directly tackle the problem of greed
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:26 AM   #10270
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not really

Lenin repeatedly thinks of the proletariat as a homogenous mass who on taking power will not be corrupted by greed/power etc

got to write an essay this month on lenin's advocation of violence as a means to suppress counter revolutionaries. basically gonna use Plato's Republic and write a shit ton about power corrupting
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Old 03-23-2017, 06:59 AM   #10271
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makes you wonder if he really believed what he was saying or if the whole thing itself was a coercion attempt

i suppose this was a time before history witnessed the results of real implementation of these ideas

communism for me is an example of utopianism. so are religious ideals and things. all pretty and nice in theory.

unfortunately, nature and instinct do not give a fuck about utopian ideals
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:44 AM   #10272
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Lenin does try to argue that he isnt a utopian repeatedly throughout the State And Revolution

hes not very convincing in it
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:50 AM   #10273
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lol really

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i wish i still believed in communism

anarchy or small communes are the best forms of organization that align with natural flow and laws so are the ideal in my opinion, but unfortunately our population is too high at this point so i don't know what the ideal is currently, but i think at some point nature will push us back into the anarchic small commune type society, unless we can surpass some sort of technological apex where super artificial intelligence can look after us and solve all issues (without going all the terminator on us of course, big if)
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:02 AM   #10274
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i think youve pretty much hit the nail on the head there

centralized, state sized communism is a massive undertaking and brings up a shit ton of problems regarding distribution of goods and essentials

small communes on the other hand are extremly manageable

my lecturer for my great books course brought up anarchist communes yesterday. said hes been to one in copenhagen. Apparently everything runs pretty smoothly there except for 2 things. 1. Whenever they get seriously ill they obviously dont have the means to deal with it themselves, so they have to go to a state run hospital, which is a bit iffy seeming as they dont pay any taxes towards running and maintaining said hospitals. Secondy, they also have issues with criminals eg drug-dealers trying to sell and push hard drugs within the commune (the anarchists are apparently cool with weed just nothing "hard), and when they need help from the police to sort it out the same issue as before arises (theyre a bunch of non tax paying anarchists needing help from the state who they dont believe in).
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yeah those are some of the biggest sacrifices in giving up on a mass organization. healthcare, education (might not be as big an issue, definitely situational), and of course for now, defense and policing. the only way we could ever revert back / evolve into such a society would be some sort of massive reduction in population, because you'll just continue to have one group invading the other, taking over spaces, and going back to similar country-style organization we have today.

which is why in reality we have all our eggs in one basket, that basket being innovation and technological advancement. hopefully our tools can save us (and don't destroy us). i fear this faith in technology is almost similar to the faith in communism back in those times, in that the idea of greed and corruption was not taken seriously enough, and inevitably that power (technological / political) will end up in selfish hands and ironically become counter-productive to progression and peace.

we're fucking smart, but we're also just animals with the same instincts as others, to create security and abundance for those closest to our genetic circle. i think it's definitely possible to overcome these instincts and realize we are all in the same bout, to be empathetic, to be all-loving. but when you consider the entire population and the power of instinct, greed is always always always going to inevitably emerge.

at some point nature will fight back i think. similar to what jeff goldblum says in jurassic park - nature uhhhhhh finds a way........

enjoy the party humanity. all good things come to an end

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Old 03-27-2017, 06:11 AM   #10276
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read the wasps in one sitting yesterday. pretty funny

leaving the other two plays for a bit, reading this instead

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Old 03-27-2017, 08:43 AM   #10277
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I've a habit of reading multiple books at once,
Currently, I'm on Anna Karerina, Describing Morphosyntax (and several other linguistics texts and papers), a Welsh copy of a Roald Dahl book, 'Charlie a'r esgynydd mawr gwydr' (gotta start somewhere, children's books are the best place! Though, it's written in colloquial southern welsh, I live in the North and my interest is mainly in reading historical Welsh, so some of the language differs from what I hear up hear and differs extensively both from the literary standard and the historical language I actually want to read in, but hey, it's going well so far; deceptively confusing language, I suspect I'll cover the immediate hurdles very fast - most of the complexities seem to be at the lower level, if that makes sense - seems to be the case with most languages; unless they're agglutinative, gotta love that regularity), an anthology of traditional Japanese poetry (really happy with this purchase), and an Icelandic novel I'm rereading, Hundadagar (due to the fact I don't live in Iceland, my practicing ability is limited to music and books pretty much, and even then, ordering books from there is verrrrry expensive.)
Also, been slowly making my way through Bertrand Russell's history of Western Philosophy, though interesting, doesn't fit my niche interests philosophy-wise so much (but hopefully it'll help me understand some of the writings of thinkers I like, but don't quite feel I grasp fully). I'm also reading through the Anglo-Saxon chronicle to get my reading level up to scratch, then I'm planning on tackling Beowulf.
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im enjoying it a lot, currently about 200 pages in. I think it has a leg up on other dystopian novels in that its portrayal of people is more realistic and perhaps a tad more human. It is however a bit of a slow burner.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:43 AM   #10285
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finished this last night. solid read. gonna start this now, got it as an anniversary present from my gf a couple of nights ago

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just read this in one quick sitting.

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