Cain vs. Danish: Preliminary Thread - Page 3

Danish · 05-29-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tway

sovereignty ended with world war two.

Hardly.

Cain · 05-29-2006, 10:02 PM

Ooo I like Tway's topic.

EDIT: On the other hand I don't want to debate it if Tway's gonna argue about it anyway.

As of now for me it's a tossup between PerpetualBurn's idea and the "is a loss of national sovereignty good for humanity" bit of Tway's idea. I could go for Danish's modification of Tway's idea too but I prefer the previous ones.

Danish, what's your AIM?

Reaganista · 05-29-2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Hardly.

wow that's a super-loose definition of sovereignty you've got there

-1up!- · 05-29-2006, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tway

sovereignty ended with world war two.

wow that's a very detailed argument you got there.

Reaganista · 05-29-2006, 10:22 PM

it wasn't an argument it was a statement of fact

Cain · 05-29-2006, 10:27 PM

Here's one idea that I just had, inspired by the vegetarianism thread and a biodiversity class I took last year:

"Can the welfare of the planet's natural biology be improved only at the cost of human economic welfare?"

Reaganista · 05-29-2006, 10:31 PM

that comes down to the science way to much. it would either be nothing but speculation or really boring. or both.

~~Iskandar~~ · 05-30-2006, 11:21 AM

Debate whether socialism necessarily requires a high degree of government control over economy.

dustindow · 05-31-2006, 09:28 PM

whatever the topic may be. It should be made clear the meaning/definition and all the ends and outs of it. Just to make it more insightful sp?

Danish · 05-31-2006, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tway

wow that's a super-loose definition of sovereignty you've got there

It's probably the same as yours.

Hababi · 05-31-2006, 11:35 PM

Hey I have an idea for a future debate thread:
Cain vs Tway

It'll average 1,005 words per post--Cain with his 2,000 and Tway with his 10. Pamphlets vs sound bytes, the battle of two era's of media.

PerpetualBurn · 06-01-2006, 04:17 AM

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era's

Plurals don't use apostrophes, dammit!

-1up!- · 06-01-2006, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadway Danny Rose

Hey I have an idea for a future debate thread:
Cain vs Tway

It'll average 1,005 words per post--Cain with his 2,000 and Tway with his 10. Pamphlets vs sound bytes, the battle of two era's of media.

I can see that. Detailed arguments pitting against the 10 word idiocies of a retard who sees no truth but his own fantasies.

Sovereignty has certainly not ended with WWII. Globalisation, deregulation of worldwide economy, and neoliberalism in itself is making deeper holes in sovereignty, especially in third world countries, than 39-45 ever did. (WWII was the start of a massive wave of decoloniation, btw.)

-1up!- · 06-01-2006, 11:07 AM

me, Marxist? Hardly

lfantwister · 06-01-2006, 11:20 AM

I still think the practicality of instilling democracy worldwide is a good one

Reaganista · 06-01-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

It's probably the same as yours.

the only countries that excercised anything that i would begin to describe as soveriegnty throughout the cold war were the US and USSR.

I don't think you can claim to be living in a soveriegnty-based system when hardly anybody has it.

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, than 39-45 ever did

haha you can't even read you ****ing cunt

dislocated214 · 06-01-2006, 02:49 PM

Socialism versus Capitalism.

Cain · 06-01-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadway Danny Rose

Hey I have an idea for a future debate thread:
Cain vs Tway

It'll average 1,005 words per post--Cain with his 2,000 and Tway with his 10. Pamphlets vs sound bytes, the battle of two era's of media.

Nah, with Tway I can kick back and relax about the word count.

To be honest, though, I have no time at present to involve myself in a debate thing, at least formally. All of the topics suggested (although they're REALLY good, some of them) are going to neccesitate a lot of research on my part that I don't really have time for. I was up for it a few days ago, but it's seemed to meander since then whereas my non-intranet life has gotten more hectic.

Sorry Danish. I am honored that you would challenge me!

Anyway, give me a few more days at least. I may return to this soon.

MAthiAS · 06-01-2006, 09:07 PM

Did Danish mention his 'capitalism conflicting with democracy' idea in here? I'd like to see it debated, with whoever, or at least read some more about it.

05-29-2006, 10:02 PM	#42
Cain xenomorph may be involved Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,053	Ooo I like Tway's topic. EDIT: On the other hand I don't want to debate it if Tway's gonna argue about it anyway. As of now for me it's a tossup between PerpetualBurn's idea and the "is a loss of national sovereignty good for humanity" bit of Tway's idea. I could go for Danish's modification of Tway's idea too but I prefer the previous ones. Danish, what's your AIM? Last edited by Cain; 05-29-2006 at 10:14 PM.

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05-29-2006, 10:22 PM	#45
Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,089	it wasn't an argument it was a statement of fact

05-29-2006, 10:27 PM	#46
Cain xenomorph may be involved Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,053	Here's one idea that I just had, inspired by the vegetarianism thread and a biodiversity class I took last year: "Can the welfare of the planet's natural biology be improved only at the cost of human economic welfare?"

05-29-2006, 10:31 PM	#47
Reaganista ill be ur dog Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: come to u when u call me Posts: 29,089	that comes down to the science way to much. it would either be nothing but speculation or really boring. or both.

05-31-2006, 09:28 PM	#49
dustindow I h@x0rZ RulZ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Relocated Posts: 2,637	whatever the topic may be. It should be made clear the meaning/definition and all the ends and outs of it. Just to make it more insightful sp?

05-31-2006, 11:35 PM	#51
Hababi Serenity Now Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,052	Hey I have an idea for a future debate thread: Cain vs Tway It'll average 1,005 words per post--Cain with his 2,000 and Tway with his 10. Pamphlets vs sound bytes, the battle of two era's of media.

06-01-2006, 11:07 AM	#54
-1up!- Hypermodern Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 2,070	me, Marxist? Hardly

06-01-2006, 11:20 AM	#55
lfantwister dr chim richolds Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,549	I still think the practicality of instilling democracy worldwide is a good one

06-01-2006, 02:49 PM	#57
dislocated214 The Boogeyman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,657	Socialism versus Capitalism.

06-01-2006, 09:07 PM	#59
MAthiAS A Firestorm to Purify Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DC Posts: 10,713	Did Danish mention his 'capitalism conflicting with democracy' idea in here? I'd like to see it debated, with whoever, or at least read some more about it.