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Old 11-07-2013, 03:04 AM   #72001
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:06 AM   #72002
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:07 AM   #72003
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:34 AM   #72004
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no.
No, you did. And that shows because the guy you were quoting seriously disagrees with you. Period.

Anyhow, this is my plan for the future of America:

Pay every poor jig who is willing to get irreversibly sterilized. Include penalties if they already have children, but not so steep as to dissuade "better late than never" sterilizations. A typical payout should be able to afford rims that spin, a few pairs of Nike Airs, a few months of frah chiggen and plenty of malt liquor to wash it all down. Throw in an equally long supply of cragg roggs or blagg tah heroin, a deluxe cable or satellite subscription, rent money and enough gas to drive that Excalade from LA to DC and I think we've really got a plan. This sounds expensive and decadent but remember it will pay for itself many times over in a few generations.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:35 AM   #72005
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i dunno it sounds a lot more expensive than walled ghettos into which we throw large bales of crack
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:35 AM   #72006
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I should amend that to and "cragg roggs and/or blagg tah heroin" for all mah poly-drug abusing niggas out dere.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:40 AM   #72007
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No, you did. And that shows because the guy you were quoting seriously disagrees with you. Period.
No, I didn't and he doesn't disagree with me.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:25 AM   #72008
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No, I didn't and he doesn't disagree with me.
Insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. I've never expected your bare assertions before; what makes you think I'll accept them now?
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:28 AM   #72009
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the point chris is that that thread wasnt even about "the dysgenic effect of the stupid" and it wasnt something i was interested in talking about or even denied. maybe read that thread again.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:04 PM   #72010
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I need to point out that the Flynn effect has run out of steam in bold and italics and you get some numbers wrong.

Then you say that "Flynn's work suggests this isn't true", where "this" is the notion that we have reached a plateau in our intellectual development and, guess what?

THAT'S WHAT HE ACTUALLY THINKS
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:25 PM   #72011
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no he doesn't.

he said if educated people in new zealand don't start having more babies, the average iq of nz will fall in a few generations. i don't know what the empirical basis for that conclusion is, but a) it probably doesn't apply to china or anywhere outside the west/rich countries and b) it's a mistake to equate education levels with genetic intelligence.

and the "Flynn's work suggests this isn't true" quote was directed at the quote from that article suggesting there was a plateau between archimedes and einstein.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:37 PM   #72012
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no he doesn't.

he said if educated people in new zealand don't start having more babies, the average iq of nz will fall in a few generations.
Yeah, you're right, that's worse than plateauing.

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i don't know what the empirical basis for that conclusion is
Why don't you read the article?
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and the "Flynn's work suggests this isn't true" quote was directed at the quote from that article suggesting there was a plateau between archimedes and einstein.
The Collapse of Complex Societies makes a strong case that intellectual development has indeed hit diminishing marginal returns.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:38 PM   #72014
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Why don't you read the article?
i did. the herald reports it as if he's making some back of napkin ruminations based on census figures. not very robust.

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The Collapse of Complex Societies makes a strong case that intellectual development has indeed hit diminishing marginal returns.
plausible. i havent denied that and wont.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:39 PM   #72015
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a) it probably doesn't apply to china
How good is nutrition in a city like Beijing or Shenzhen?

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b) it's a mistake to equate education levels with genetic intelligence.
Maybe but they're strongly correlated. For the obvious reason.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #72016
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How good is nutrition in a city like Beijing or Shenzhen?
im not sure, probably decent. what's your point?

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Maybe but they're strongly correlated. For the obvious reason.
im not sure how strongly correlated they are. im not going to make self serving assumptions like that.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:19 PM   #72017
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:30 PM   #72019
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:59 AM   #72020
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im not sure, probably decent. what's your point?
The effects of diet on intelligence should be maximum in any city that has Pizza Huts everywhere.

(I wonder how they handle lactose intolerance though.)

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im not sure how strongly correlated they are.
Why not Google "IQ educational attainment" or similar?

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Trade-offs in decision-making depend on whether you are only looking at only the next decision or a longer time period, both theoretically and according to behavioral evidence. If you are taking decisions one at a time, a suboptimal outcome may be attained. Addiction is a particularly strong example of this.

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Old 11-11-2013, 12:07 PM   #72022
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The effects of diet on intelligence should be maximum in any city that has Pizza Huts everywhere.

(I wonder how they handle lactose intolerance though.)
sure but most chinese people don't live in cities (they may have just reached tipping point) and i don't know that the chinese working class eats especially well.

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assuming iq reflects native, genetic intelligence only. i dunno, maybe this is true in some highly developed countries (i doubt there are no confounding factors) but we're not talking about them.

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sure. what is this to do with?
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:31 PM   #72024
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at a high level of abstraction, maybe.
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #72025
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Study doesn't mention if the twins were raised in the same household and/or grew up in the same location.
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the implication is that the gene pool in the us is radically different to anywhere else in the western world, and such difference has arisen in the past 400 years give or take despite massive and continuing exchange of genes.

colour me skeptical.

the historicity of political choices is also problematic. if genes were decisive factors (although the study hedges on this), you would expect political choices to be relatively stable from generation to generation (because genes are relatively stable). but political choices/attitudes can change radically in less than one generation (compare politics pre and post 1960s); political change comes in fits and starts - it's punctuated equilibrium.

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Old 11-11-2013, 06:10 PM   #72027
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but really though genetics probably determines almost everything lets be real here we're sacks of chemicals
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:17 PM   #72028
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aside from learned behavior and the psychological impacts thereof

which you would know about firsthand from working at a psych ward
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:53 PM   #72029
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but really though genetics probably determines almost everything lets be real here we're sacks of chemicals
the second half of the sentence does not imply the first.
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