Women may now officially be combatants in the US military ... HUZZAH!

[1338 h4x0r]

http://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/women-warriors-are-battlefield-eliminate-outdated-unfair-military-combat

now all we need to do is amend the Selective Service so that they have to register when they turn 18 and we're EQUAL

[JizzInMyPants]

I mean, I don't know much about the military but isn't frontline stuff like...optional? If they don't want to be on the frontlines then don't put them on the frontlines, if a woman wants to be in the frontlines then all the power to them, got more guts than me I'll tell them that.

If they are going to force women to be on the frontlines than thats where I would see a problem.

[Iscariot]

It's optional to the extent that you can choose an MOS that isn't combat specific, but in a hostile theater you can be redirected at the discretion of your C/O. A surprising number of female soldiers in the Afghan war saw combat regardless of official policy due to the absence of a definable front line

[Trebor17]

Please reinstate don't ask don't tell so if there's a draft I can just pretend to be gay

[RouteOne]

old sub-mariner's saying since they let women serve on subs



"110 people go down, 111 come up"





Of course this is a dumb idea and it will lead to more problems but odds are not a lot of women will go for front line stuff. My father who was in the military for 25 years was responsible for promoting a lot of people in the 90s and he said that women were nothing but problems and everyone had to walk on eggshells around them and men would fight over them.

[RouteOne]

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?7633-A-woman-goes-to-war-in-a-man-s-world

http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal

[Iscariot]

Sounds like your father is incredibly sexist. If they can shoot straight and carry a fellow soldier out of the line of fire then let them fight. Women have had as historically significant a role in combat as men.

I bet more people are familiar with the name Joan of Arc than General Patreus.

[Smokey D]

israel seems to cope.

[Iscariot]

Sparta as well. Spartan women were held to the same physical fitness and combat standards as the men.

The Scythian kingdom also employed equal male/female warrior roles.

[HillaryClitTounge]

Sparta as well. Spartan women were held to the same physical fitness and combat standards as the men.

Absolute bullshit.

[HillaryClitTounge]

Women have had as historically significant a role in combat as men.

are you serious? that is actually the most absurd thing I have ever heard...

[Iscariot]

Yeah, no. Spartan women were not only allowed an education, the right to own land, and the right to control independent finances, but during their adolescent years they were required to undergo the same physical trials as their male counterparts. Wrestling, javelin, and other stereotypical male events of the period were a part of every Spartan female's development.

[Iscariot]

Also that's the worst fucking gimmick account I've ever seen, and that's coming from the guy who used to post as Adolf Hitler.

[Smokey D]

The historical role women played in the military is more or less irrelevant to the issue of whether they can serve effectively in combat roles in the modern military.

Theoretically, I guess there might be issues of physical capacity in certain roles but provided the military doesn't set double standards and selects on ability to do the job required, it shouldn't be a problem. I couldn't physically cope with the physical requirements of a lot of jobs in the military, which goes for a lot of men.

[Iscariot]

It's relevant to the point that "they can" perform the roles and that there's no unbiased rational argument to the contrary that would effectively disqualify all women from combat duties.

Combat was a lot more strenuous before you could pop someone's skull from a mile and a half away, so I think any determined woman today could do just fine.

[Smokey D]

It's relevant to the point that "they can" perform the roles and that there's no unbiased rational argument to the contrary that would effectively disqualify all women from combat duties.

What I should say is that their exclusion from combat roles is not good evidence that they are incapable of serving in combat roles.

Combat was a lot more strenuous before you could pop someone's skull from a mile and a half away, so I think any determined woman today could do just fine.

But don't you get it? They'll have their periods and get all emotional and probably start shooting up their own units.

[Iscariot]

Don't forget that the male soldiers won't be able to keep themselves from raping them but it's all the woman's fault because she went out of her way to look extra sexy in 160 lbs of combat gear and ten layers of dirt, grime, and blood.

[RouteOne]

Originally Posted by Iscariot

Sounds like your father is incredibly sexist. If they can shoot straight and carry a fellow soldier out of the line of fire then let them fight. Women have had as historically significant a role in combat as men.

I bet more people are familiar with the name Joan of Arc than General Patreus.

lmao you're lying straight through your teeth this is garbage

[RouteOne]

Originally Posted by Smokey D

israel seems to cope.

oh sure, they can operate weapons and shoot well but they're frames aren't cut out for boot slogging.

PS Israel does it out of desperation as did the Soviets

[Smokey D]

oh sure, they can operate weapons and shoot well but they're frames aren't cut out for boot slogging.

that's true of lots of men and not true of at least some women.

but of course, if israel is known for anything, it's how badly its military works.

PS Israel does it out of desperation as did the Soviets

as if why they did it matters at all.