The Drum Stronghold

[American Motor]

guys, listen
http://newwings.bandcamp.com/album/ground-sits-on-ground
I know the album starts kinda slow but if you have 40 minutes to waste then you should turn this up real loud and rock out

oh and the toms sound bad and we fuck up a bunch

[Vinnie's Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Thinking of adding another floor-tom to my new kit. Can't decide if I want 15" or 16" though.

What are the other sizes? You want to maintain the "family" of intervals between drums.

[Drum Phil]

I thought about a special dry but the sound doesn't really appeal to me for some reason

[Aaron]

Really? I play a few of them and love them.

Originally Posted by vinnie's ice cream

what are the other sizes? You want to maintain the "family" of intervals between drums.

10, 12, 14.

[spirit]

personally, the largest tom only being 1" bigger than the 14" would bug me. i'd go for 16", but that's just me.

[billdrum]

I play a 14 and 15. Because I am mounting on a rack, I didn't want a 16. It works really well for me.

[Vinnie's Ice Cream]

ya, I wouldn't mix a 14 and 15 either having 10,12,14 being what's ahead of it.

I use 16" rack toms, never had issues. Yamaha though, rock solid gear. Other companies not so much.

If you are talking about the yellow short stack kit you have, weight won't be an issue anyway because they are so shallow.

[Aaron]

Yeah that kit. It'd be 8x15 or 8x16.

[Steffanwolf]

there's something symmetrical about 8" x 16"...

[Pearl2004]

Almost too symmetrical, it might produce a magic sound that kills people divisible by 4 :0

[Vinnie's Ice Cream]

What is the depth of the 14"?

[Pearl2004]

7", all his toms are the same ratio

[Vinnie's Ice Cream]

Well that makes it easy doesn't it?

Use the same shell and edges, and they'll all be one happy family.


Interesting I remember when OCDP came out with the short stack toms a LONG time ago, I think DW did it for awhile too. Lacking in power and projection big time, but make for one super portable tiny little kit.

[Pearl2004]

I find the shallow sizes appealing cuz I'm kind of short, well, maybe more than that, I'm just not very tall at all, but, I hate angling my toms very much

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Vinnie's Ice Cream

Well that makes it easy doesn't it?

Use the same shell and edges, and they'll all be one happy family.


Interesting I remember when OCDP came out with the short stack toms a LONG time ago, I think DW did it for awhile too. Lacking in power and projection big time, but make for one super portable tiny little kit.

I find projection not to be an issue if they're tuned right.

[Vinnie's Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by Aaron

I find projection not to be an issue if they're tuned right.

It's a simple matter of a physics. Less drum = less sound. A 14x7 floor tom just can't compete with a 14x14 floor tom.


In most the cases, unless you are particularly short (or young), tom height shouldn't be an issue. It's most likely your posture. Take a video of you playing from the side to check.

[spirit]

volume != projection

i suppose it would be more accurate to say that volume isn't the only component of projection, but it's less pithy.

also, considering the sound comes from the head, not the drum, way to not make any god damned sense

and when in the bollocking fuck did aaron say he got short stack toms because he was short? if he did, i'll retract the question, if not, stop bringing up irrelevant shit

[Aaron]

It's not really accurate to say more depth equals greater projection.

Also I'm 6'0" and 26 years old. Ain't either of those things.

[Pearl2004]

Good call on the posture actually, my throne has given me that bad habit, but it's not that bad, I just like my toms barely higher than my snare, honestly if I could afford a custom kit it would look like a child's kit haha, 20x20 bd, Tom sizes like Aaron, also I play may cymbals low too,

[Drum Phil]

Makes me laugh that OCDP have changed to a bog standard company nowadays. The whole point of them was those ridiculous kits people custom ordered and now, they don't do custom kits except for their top tier endorsers.