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Old 05-04-2009, 04:17 PM   #12
Flex of the Yellow
errm....hi?
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceramicbunny View Post
Hi.
I'm his guitar player.
sup.

He's talking about the Line6 M13.
It does 75 effects and about 40 or so really well.

Pros
-universal tap tempo
you have no idea how useful this is. to be able to sync your delays and your tremelos and your seek wahs and your flangers and your butt sliding and just about everything makes life so much easier.
-delays.
a lot of people like the line 6 dl4 but rat on it for breaking. this thing is built like a tank and you can run 4 dl4s at once if you were so inclined (i rarely go over 2 different delays at the same time)
-Looper
This is just a nice bonus.I mean, this is a kind of looper thats only useful live. You can't save any loops. but you can go half/double speed, reverse and ****. which is great fun.
-expression pedals.
You said you didnt know what expression pedals do. They are what my den mother affectionately calls "foot knobs." all they do is change the value of one or many of parameters of different effects controlled by the knobs on the unit. so you could find a effect you like and have 2 settings (one in the heel position or one in the toe). or you can do crazy **** like play a delayed note and slowly increase the speed of the delay, use it for volume swells, feedback the **** out of a space echo, discover the secret to infinite sustain or some of the other things i use it for.

Cons
-distortions
I didn't realize how barely passable the distortions were until i got a radial tonebone.
drooooooooooooooooooooooool.
-big mother ****er.
I just built(am in the process of building) my own pedalboard. I had to build a separate board just for this ****er. kinda sucks, but theres no way its gonna break.
-tiny knobs.
This is just a personal thing, but I have giant ****ing hands. the knobs are tiny. its a pain in the ***.
Ah, thats great advice, thanks I'll definitely check that out

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Originally Posted by TriggerNYC View Post
my biggest beef with multi-fx is the fact that if the delay sounds cool, but the phaser doesnt, then whats the point of having it if you need a good phaser. thats just an example.

another example is if something happens with it, batteries die, screen cracks, anything, you just lost ALL your effects. sometimes a beer can slip out of your hand inbetween songs and now instead of losing one or two pedals you lost everything.

and you have to cycle through patches. i like single effectxs bc everything is right in front of your face. if you have patch A thats delay, then patch B is delay and phaser, and patch C is phaser and chorus, an d pathc D is chorus, if you want to go from D to A thats a lot of clicking. then u might click 4x instead of 3x and now ur all ****ed up.

also i feel if the effects were so good, multis wouldnt be so much cheaper than buying single effects. you cant get the same circuitry in the same order in a mutl ithn u can on single effects, so idk if all the effects will suffer, but a lot of them might.

but i always think live. if youre a bedroom guy, those things are great for ****ing around, but i never buy anything i wouldnt bring on stage with me.

take this for example :
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line6-Floor-POD-Plus-Multi-Effects-Pedal?sku=150212

distortion aside (bc its whack) thats cheaper than a DL4, it doesnt make sense to me that the delays would be as good as the dl4 if its cheaper, PLUS all that other ****. idk. plus its so little. idk it doesnt make sense. but try some **** out and see if u like how it sounds.
I intend to try out as much as i can, and if I can get as many of the effects i need in one handy pedal, I hope thats a bonus

Thanks for the replies everyone, keep 'em coming
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