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well yes, you see, i listen to industrial artists like Dissecting Table, Einsturzende Neubauten and such (the list is way long, i`m just saying some big names here), and i see PIG or Deathboy as mainstream. I`m not saying that they are not ok, i enjoy listening to them quite often, but imo they are commercial (which of course, doesnt mean that they are bad, or that nodoby should listen to them)
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