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Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 09-01-2015, 02:40 PM
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Posted By Smokey D
Coz Australia and about 14 other pacific...

Coz Australia and about 14 other pacific countries have basically the same flag. Or because the government is trying to distract us with a flag referendum while entering the tpp by stealth. Depends...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 09-01-2015, 01:34 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
well, for sure, electable police forces (sheriffs...

well, for sure, electable police forces (sheriffs or whatever you guys have) are stupid as well. but the point i'm making is why would a private police force respond to public concerns and not profit...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 09-01-2015, 01:24 PM
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Posted By Smokey D
that's not really how "private ownership" works....

that's not really how "private ownership" works. you filthy communist.
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 09-01-2015, 01:23 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 598
Posted By Smokey D
Either they're scum you need to keep off the...

Either they're scum you need to keep off the streets. Or they're not.
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-31-2015, 09:27 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
how would a "private police force" put control in...

how would a "private police force" put control in the hands of the community? wouldn't it put control in the hands of the board/shareholders?
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-31-2015, 03:31 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 204
Posted By Smokey D
I'm pretty sure nobody agrees that it's...

I'm pretty sure nobody agrees that it's acceptable for the government to use violence to achieve trivial things. I'm pretty sure most people agree non-government actors can use violence in some other...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-31-2015, 02:58 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 598
Posted By Smokey D
It does seem relevant to the claim america is the...

It does seem relevant to the claim america is the freest place on earth. Not that I'm suggesting "freedom" can be reduced to a single line spectrum.

but "Yeah we have high incarceration rates to...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-30-2015, 10:18 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
And they are justified keeping that money because...

And they are justified keeping that money because [fill in the blank]



So you can't give an answer other than "because it's theirs". Not a satisfactory answer, really. I'm not advocating any...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-30-2015, 09:31 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 598
Posted By Smokey D
Vaguely amusing that HCT complains about high...

Vaguely amusing that HCT complains about high incarceration rates in one thread but says they're perfectly okay in this one.
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-30-2015, 02:58 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
I will respond to the big post when I get time,...

I will respond to the big post when I get time, but I don't think we can say your moral entitlements are strictly a function of work. It's implausible that teachers and nurses like (let alone doctors...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-29-2015, 01:49 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
Any given distribution of wealth in a society you...

Any given distribution of wealth in a society you can imagine.



You're only morally entitled to things you're morally entitled to. Saying "just because" doesn't take us anywhere in the...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-27-2015, 03:02 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
I haven't asked you to show why private property...

I haven't asked you to show why private property is justified. Your point is that it's wrong for the government to use its coercive powers to compel people to pay taxation they (presumably) wouldn't...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-26-2015, 02:18 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
Nobody i've referred to in this thread is a...

Nobody i've referred to in this thread is a marxist or anything approaching it.



meaning you can't



because america doesn't engage in redisributionist taxation at all. dum dum, that's...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-24-2015, 03:14 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
Sure, they might. Arguably the founding father's...

Sure, they might. Arguably the founding father's intention is relevant to whether something is constitutional or not. It's not particularly relevant to whether a given distribution is just(ified) or...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-24-2015, 02:15 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
(a) this is an appeal to authority and/or...

(a) this is an appeal to authority and/or tradition, not an argument;
(b) the articles of confederation were replaced by the constitution for exactly that reason.



Maybe not, but they...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-24-2015, 01:09 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
you can't appeal to democracy and say that...

you can't appeal to democracy and say that personal consent of every government action is required to justify state action. if democracy is the justifying principle, then personal consent is...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-24-2015, 01:04 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 203
Posted By Smokey D
I'm a real hard ass on free expression.

I'm a real hard ass on free expression.
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-24-2015, 01:04 AM
Replies: 74,790
Views: 5,628,087
Posted By Smokey D
Didn't say all wars are predictable. Said as...

Didn't say all wars are predictable. Said as circumstances currently exist, there's 0% chance of Sweden being invaded by anyone.



I guess you don't know what per capita is.



Lots of...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-19-2015, 07:24 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
you seem to be running two lines of argument...

you seem to be running two lines of argument without clearly distinguishing between them.

the first is that a welfare state is morally repugnant per se because of the coercive element involved in...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-19-2015, 02:47 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
What you have to show is not that it's wrong for...

What you have to show is not that it's wrong for the government (or someone else) to compel taxation but that it's right for the persons opposed to taxation to resist the claims of society to...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-19-2015, 12:59 AM
Replies: 74,790
Views: 5,628,087
Posted By Smokey D
I think the existence of strategy as a concept...

I think the existence of strategy as a concept implies wars can be predicted, yes.



Yeah, nobody saw world war 2 coming.



Doubtful you would need to reduce military spending significantly...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-19-2015, 12:54 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
I haven't read the whole thread, it's true. But...

I haven't read the whole thread, it's true. But you should know your arguments aren't novel or anything. They barely rise above a bare assertion that government coercion of any form is a bad thing,...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-18-2015, 11:08 PM
Replies: 74,790
Views: 5,628,087
Posted By Smokey D
No, it's often predictable:...

No, it's often predictable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy

the US spends half a trillion dollars on its military because its predominant position is a condition precedent of "peace" and it...
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-18-2015, 11:00 PM
Replies: 2,262
Views: 144,464
Posted By Smokey D
hct, i'm not going to ban you. but i want to...

hct, i'm not going to ban you.

but i want to make it clear, i don't think you're smarter than anyone.
Forum: Politics, News, and World Issues 08-18-2015, 10:59 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 1,420
Posted By Smokey D
No I'm not. I'm saying (a) there is a limit to...

No I'm not. I'm saying (a) there is a limit to demand for unskilled labour and (b) going to the library is not generally enough to prove to a prospective employer that you are skilled.



There's...
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