action bronson
 

i cant believe you guys can keep talking about odd future wtf

anyway, this guy is pretty dope not great. sounds like ghostface, newest mixtape has some hot beats though, check out this cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5n8_VS_Ho&feature=player_embedded

hes okay

bronsons beats are better than his rapping usually

hes good and all he just doesnt really change anything up

I find him pretty boring, I mean he's good but it all sounds the same after a while, I've yet to get through his entire mixtape because of this.

I think you guys should give this one a shot. I thought he was pretty boring before too, but some really hot beats on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6-LVsEct6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8kX-BCuerg
This one has KOOL AD freestyling and its awesomely terrible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PurI5xrHdI

[quote=tupik;18836717]i find him pretty boring, i mean he's good but it all sounds the same after a while, i've yet to get through his entire mixtape because of this.[/quote]

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his songs are too long and he raps about the same shit always

boring white ghostface clone who raps about food

^
every song of his in a nutshell

and crusty girls that he's probably never stuck his small dick in

why are you so convinced his dick is small?

[QUOTE=Urinetrouble;18837447]boring white ghostface clone who raps about food

^
every song of his in a nutshell[/QUOTE]

Still makes him better than many

I'm just saying, i was a hater beforehand too, but this new tape has great production, and he has some clever lines.


"my conscious locked up
in an alley with a fiend getting my cock sucked
plus she wearing a wedding dress, her special day
she said she finally met a man to take her breath away"

I don't think anyone who's posted here yet has tried listening to it

hes kinda boring

Its peculiar how everyone on this website has the same opinion all the time

we don't all have the same opinion this guy is just actually bad

[QUOTE=Idnuf;18837844]why are you so convinced his dick is small?[/QUOTE]

pretty sure he says it explicitly in "Thug Love Story 2012"

[QUOTE=matious;18837895]Still makes him better than many

I'm just saying, i was a hater beforehand too, but this new tape has great production, and he has some clever lines.


"my conscious locked up
in an alley with a fiend getting my cock sucked
plus she wearing a wedding dress, her special day
she said she finally met a man to take her breath away"

I don't think anyone who's posted here yet has tried listening to it[/QUOTE]

his production is pretty cool, but gets old after the song has been going unchanged for like 2 minutes

and that stanza is pretty weak, either he just says things with no regard for how they are contextually linked, or you picked a 4 lines that are between two narratives

also he doesn't seem to make a lot of sense

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18838070]
and that stanza is pretty weak[/QUOTE]

lol it's great

Ay, thanks for like providing some reasoning
[QUOTE=Gorgon;18838070]we don't all have the same opinion this guy is just actually bad



pretty sure he says it explicitly in "Thug Love Story 2012"



his production is pretty cool, but gets old after the song has been going unchanged for like 2 minutes

and that stanza is pretty weak, either he just says things with no regard for how they are contextually linked, or you picked a 4 lines that are between two narratives

also he doesn't seem to make a lot of sense[/QUOTE]

A lot of the songs change on this, thats why it's his best so far. He changes the loops an adds layers on the good songs, ill agree many don't hold my attention, but thats true for a majority of rappers.

I didn't pick out any of those lyrics, thats how it was delivered. I just think its a pretty funny joke that the lady says "i finally met a man who takes my breath away" before she sucks his dick in an alley.

My sense of humor is questionable, i think action bronson is pretty solid. I don't think you guys like old school sounding hip hop that much ( action bronson is borderline) which is fine and will keep in mind.

from the like 4 songs I listened to he wasn't anything special.

there are only so many "getting my dick sucked by a nasty ho" jokes I can take

Danny Brown is probalby the only one who is actually funny when he makes those jokes

[QUOTE=matious;18838087]Ay, thanks for like providing some reasoning


A lot of the songs change on this, thats why it's his best so far. He changes the loops an adds layers on the good songs, ill agree many don't hold my attention, but thats true for a majority of rappers.

I didn't pick out any of those lyrics, thats how it was delivered. I just think its a pretty funny joke that the lady says "i finally met a man who takes my breath away" before she sucks his dick in an alley.

My sense of humor is questionable, i think action bronson is pretty solid. I don't think you guys like old school sounding hip hop that much ( action bronson is borderline) which is fine and will keep in mind.[/QUOTE]

We like old-school hip-hop, we just don't listen to it on a regular basis. Wu-tang ripoffs and krs get boring after a while you know.

[QUOTE=matious;18837895]Still makes him better than many

I'm just saying, i was a hater beforehand too, but this new tape has great production, and he has some clever lines.


"my conscious locked up
in an alley with a fiend getting my cock sucked
plus she wearing a wedding dress, her special day
she said she finally met a man to take her breath away"

I don't think anyone who's posted here yet has tried listening to it[/QUOTE]

I'm not a hater, he's just 97% awful most of the time

heil

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18838088]from the like 4 songs I listened to he wasn't anything special.

there are only so many "getting my dick sucked by a nasty ho" jokes I can take

Danny Brown is probalby the only one who is actually funny when he makes those jokes[/QUOTE]

See danny brown bores me. It's lil wayne punchlines with a abrasive edge and the occasional obscure reference to make the hipsters salivate.

You know danny brown has a song where he just spits "i keeps it 100", that shit doesnt bore yall?

XXX had awful production for the most part.

The collective isn't feeling action bronson, and ill try to unravel that perspective, but right now i'm digging him. I like pretty much everything coming out of new york these days its great. Azealia banks, mr muthafucking exxquire, das racist, asap rocky

[QUOTE=matious;18838285]See danny brown bores me. It's lil wayne punchlines with a abrasive edge and the occasional obscure reference to make the hipsters salivate.

You know danny brown has a song where he just spits "i keeps it 100", that shit doesnt bore yall?

XXX had awful production for the most part.[/QUOTE]

:chug:

rappers don't say anything interesting


i wonder why they cant flow me
makes me think if they ever studied poetry

[QUOTE=matious;18838285]See danny brown bores me. It's lil wayne punchlines with a abrasive edge and the occasional obscure reference to make the hipsters salivate. [/quote]

nothing like lil wayne wtf

[quote]You know danny brown has a song where he just spits "i keeps it 100", that shit doesnt bore yall?[/quote]

his personality keeps shit like that from boring me

[quote]XXX had awful production for the most part.[/quote]

lol

[quote]Azealia banks[/QUOTE]

really doe?

that one azealia banks song is fun

but XXX has good production, it was quirky and really gritty which fit the feeling of the subject matter perfectly.

See, the thing about danny brown is that he actually raps about something that is relevant and worth discussing (real poverty, the state of Detroit, personal experience in drug abuse, theft, etc) whereas Bronson doesn't seem to rap about anything of importance or interest.

and simpleton shut the fuck up, poetry is not prose IE doesn't have to say anything at all, not to mention how rap is much more musical that pure poetry and has additional constraints that make it incoherent to analyze it as such.

[QUOTE=matious;18838087]My sense of humor is questionable, i think action bronson is pretty solid. I don't think you guys like old school sounding hip hop that much ( action bronson is borderline) which is fine and will keep in mind.[/QUOTE]

I love old-school hip-hop (duh), and I usually am pretty fond of recent but old-school sounding rap as well. I'll have to give his mixtape a real proper listen but so far there's nothing about him that makes me actually want to do that. I have a friend who digs him a lot, and usually when I listen to one of his songs I like it, but I don't think he has anything more than an interesting voice and flow, and that can get boring after a while.

I will come back with more precise feedback once I actually listen to it from beginning to end though.

EDIT: Your stance on which rap is good seems to be pretty well defined, from what I get you focus on lyrics and wordplay a lot, this isn't the case for everyone. I only gave XXX a 3.0, and I can still see how people love it, but obviously it's not going to be because of incredible and intricate wordplay. And you can't be serious about the production man, Lie4 probably has one of the best beats from last year imo.

[QUOTE=matious;18838285]See danny brown bores me. It's lil wayne punchlines with a abrasive edge and the occasional obscure reference to make the hipsters salivate.

You know danny brown has a song where he just spits "i keeps it 100", that shit doesnt bore yall?

XXX had awful production for the most part.

The collective isn't feeling action bronson, and ill try to unravel that perspective, but right now i'm digging him. I like pretty much everything coming out of new york these days its great. Azealia banks, mr muthafucking exxquire, das racist, asap rocky[/QUOTE]

I think you're too bent on seeming analytical and thoughtful or whatever that you say dishonest things like your first paragraph. I mean besides Danny Brown not being like Weezy (don't get me wrong Weezy is good but), "occasional obscure reference to make the hipsters salivate" makes it sound as though you just don't want to like the same thing that a certain crowd likes. What, for example, is a "obscure reference to make the hipsters salivate"? It's an empty statement, made only to separate yourself from people you don't like. I'm being sincere, I'd love to see an example of these "obscure references".

XXX had low-budget kind of production, not full or expensive, but since when did that matter? Especially coming from a guy who defends New York and old school, simple production should not mean bad. I know what you mean though, with more listening it grows on you.

Also saying that New York is in a good state (pun intended) is laughable.

idnuf is right; just because "hipsters" like something doesn't mean it's bad

anyway:
back to the review site, asshole

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18838491]

and simpleton shut the fuck up, poetry is not prose IE doesn't have to say anything at all, not to mention how rap is much more musical that pure poetry and has additional constraints that make it incoherent to analyze it as such.[/QUOTE]
Sure it doesn't HAVE to say anything but its always better when it does. Separating rap from poetry is retarded son, and if you aren't able to analyze rap because you think there are "constraints" which make it somehow outside the realm of analysis you're just giving into some predetermined traditional idea of what hiphop is, which makes you a dipshit.

wow great misreading of a perfectly intelligible post:

1) poetry that "says something", as in have some sort of sociocultural context or relevance, isn't always better. Abstraction and expressionism are as alive in poetry as in visual arts.

2) I said that you can't analyze rap with the same techniques as with pure poetry because [I]it isn't pure poetry[/I]. Rap inherently has constraints on it (correspondence with verse structure to the instrumental rhythm, vocal delivery, tonality, annunciation and pronunciation of words, etc etc) that arise from it being a performance art compared to a literary art. I never said that that makes it unanalyzable.

Rap is unanalyzable in any meaningful sense as of right now because I don't think anyone has taken it seriously enough to really look at the artform and try and objectify the good and bad practices in rap

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18838930]blah blah blerrrrrg[/QUOTE]

:lol:

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18838930]
Rap is unanalyzable in any meaningful sense as of right now because I don't think anyone has taken it seriously enough to really look at the artform and try and objectify the good and bad practices in rap[/QUOTE]

Then do it!


but seriously, i find all rap boring unless it actually says something that i don't immediately understand and am forced to analyze.

basically its worthless if its direct. the whole direct approach is dead. just because someone can write rhymes and "punchlines" within a meter is an old, dead, and boring, that's all I'm saying. complete abstraction isn't easily achieved in language and can be pretentious. It takes a subtle acknowledgement of finesse and storytelling to be an interesting rapper today.