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fatkidzonmopedz 01-11-2009 04:58 AM

any good new info on green day's latest album?
 
i know many people probably don't like green day very much especially after american idiot, but idk i kinda liked it and i've been lookin forward to what green day has in store next, but i can never find anything about their next project. anyone got any info idk bout?

Shady Ultima 01-19-2009 02:40 PM

I loved American Idiot, never understood why anyone didnt.

Anyways, I've heard it's coming out later this year, but no 'real' news.

Permanent Solution 01-19-2009 03:17 PM

American Idiot was a good album just a little pretentious for Pop Punk...or at least it was when it was made. Now all Pop Punk artists are pretentious ^_^

Shady Ultima 01-19-2009 04:55 PM

Well, I enjoyed it because it was something nobody had really done before. I mean, it had a 'story' but it was still accessible (unlike some rock-operas). I also loved that they actually grew up, and talked about things that matter in the world, like religion and politics, and gave up the masturbation jokes.

VikkiH 01-26-2009 10:06 AM

I love most things Green Day come out with, I wish I did have some news, but nope. Nothing, All I know is that they say they're returning to the older style for a while I think. Can't remember where I read that though.

Paperdice 02-02-2009 06:18 PM

THAT ALBUM WAS AMAZING ... they needed to cash in on the success and release soemthing soon after

Shady Ultima 02-09-2009 02:05 PM

Well, apparently, it's coming out May 2009! Woot! So excited!

MattSharpIsCool 02-10-2009 03:05 AM

I'm sure I'll give it a listen. American Idiot was good for like a week, it just didn't have any re-listen value.

But I still like GD and am willing to give them another go.

Iscariot 02-10-2009 03:42 AM

American Idiot was a pretty awful album. It was riddled with self-important left-wing ideals and half-formed opinions aimed at people under 18 who were looking for someone to make up their mind for them.

Old Green Day is dope though.

kitsch 02-10-2009 10:11 AM

i agree with iscariot.

although jesus of suburbia rules.

Iscariot 02-10-2009 01:54 PM

Yeah that track is awesome.

Shady Ultima 02-10-2009 02:37 PM

I completely disagree.

I think American Idiot is Green Day's best album since Nimrod, both musically and lyrically. So they grew up, they're 40 yr old men, they can't really sing about masturbation any more, I think they needed a new direction, and politics is something that worked for them.

But I really hate one thing. People hate Green Day because of the ****ing fans. That's not fair to the band, they don't choose their fans, and I hate half the ****ing 'emo-punks' that love them.

Iscariot 02-10-2009 02:44 PM

American Idiot, musically, is about ten steps below both [i]Nimrod[/i] and [i]Insomniac[/i]. AI is more simplistic, less exciting, and less involving. The biggest mistake though? A pop-punk band trying to make a rock opera.

I don't know how you can say with a straight face that AI was better than Nimrod and still call yourself a competent GD fan.

Shady Ultima 02-10-2009 04:25 PM

Wait... I never said it was better than Nimrod, I said best SINCE Nimrod (can't be better than Nimrod, that's by far their best.) The albums between Nimrod and AI were pretty pathetic, at least AI was more than half electric guitars...

And Insomniac isn't that good, Dookie and Nimrod are Green Day's best, and then AI, IMO. I don't really see how it's more simplistic, I think the songs are around the same, and they're as exciting and involving. I really thought AI was great, not their best, but much better than many of Green Day's Albums (Insomniac, Shenanigans or... Warning (ewww))

And why can't a pop punk band make a rock opera? Where is the pop-punk rule book that says 'no rock operas'? I mean, I think it was a bold step for them to try it and do something no one else has done.

Oh right, I remember the rule, punk can never innovate right?

MattSharpIsCool 02-11-2009 12:40 AM

My biggest beef with AI was the complete lack of bass riffs. They've always had some pretty cool bass lines in their songs, and on AI it was just root notes like any other boring pop punk band.

Iscariot 02-11-2009 01:07 AM

[QUOTE=Shady Ultima;17094414]Wait... I never said it was better than Nimrod, I said best SINCE Nimrod (can't be better than Nimrod, that's by far their best.) The albums between Nimrod and AI were pretty pathetic, at least AI was more than half electric guitars...[/quote]

I misread, my bad.

[quote]And Insomniac isn't that good, Dookie and Nimrod are Green Day's best, and then AI, IMO. I don't really see how it's more simplistic, I think the songs are around the same, and they're as exciting and involving. I really thought AI was great, not their best, but much better than many of Green Day's Albums (Insomniac, Shenanigans or... Warning (ewww))[/quote]

[i]Dookie[/i] is good, yes, but calling [i]Insomniac[/i] bad is like calling the Bubonic Plague good. [i]Insomniac[/i] is one album short of marking the end of an era for Green Day. After [i]Nimrod[/i] their sound changed completely, and IMO not for the better. And yes, [i]Warning[/i] is bad. Sadly, it was the first GD album I bought.

[quote]And why can't a pop punk band make a rock opera?[/quote]

Because the prefix in "rock opera" is rock and pop-punk is not a naturally diverse enough genre to pull it off. Nothing against them. Kudos for trying, but it blew fat c[size=2]ock[/size]. It was ****ing horrible.

[quote]Where is the pop-punk rule book that says 'no rock operas'? I mean, I think it was a bold step for them to try it and do something no one else has done.[/quote]

Where is the pop-punk rule book that says, "operate outside of the parameters of your personal talent to make more money"? I'm sure that rule book is sitting on the desks of Simple Plan and must have passed by Blink 182 around the time they made their self-titled album, but it's disappointing to see Green Day following the same path. And saying that they're doing something no one else has done is like saying they took a s[size=2]hit[/size] and forgot to flush for the very first time in recorded history.

[quote]Oh right, I remember the rule, punk can never innovate right?[/QUOTE]

Innovation =/= self-destruction

And stop calling them punk. They're not punk goddammit.

kitsch 02-11-2009 10:05 AM

[QUOTE]Where is the pop-punk rule book that says, "operate outside of the parameters of your personal talent to make more money"? I'm sure that rule book is sitting on the desks of Simple Plan and must have passed by Blink 182 around the time they made their self-titled album, but it's disappointing to see Green Day following the same path. And saying that they're doing something no one else has done is like saying they took a **** and forgot to flush for the very first time in recorded history.[/QUOTE]

cept blink 182s s/t was kick ***

Titan50 02-11-2009 10:23 AM

American Idiot was alright, although the title track and JoS got annoying after a while. And, seeing as this is going to be a "power pop" album, it;ll be a hit and miss. Just have to see.

Shady Ultima 02-11-2009 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=MattSharpIsCool;17095625]My biggest beef with AI was the complete lack of bass riffs. They've always had some pretty cool bass lines in their songs, and on AI it was just root notes like any other boring pop punk band.[/QUOTE]

This I also had a problem with, as I used to play bass, and there were no good bass lines...

[QUOTE=Iscariot;17095680]
[i]Dookie[/i] is good, yes, but calling [i]Insomniac[/i] bad is like calling the Bubonic Plague good. [i]Insomniac[/i] is one album short of marking the end of an era for Green Day. After [i]Nimrod[/i] their sound changed completely, and IMO not for the better. And yes, [i]Warning[/i] is bad. Sadly, it was the first GD album I bought.[/QUOTE]

My first Green Day album was Nimrod, and it's still my favourite. I honestly hate Insomniac, it doesn't have any Green Day-ish songs. After Nimrod though, they just changed, and went all acoustic for Warning...

[QUOTE=Iscariot;17095680]
Because the prefix in "rock opera" is rock and pop-punk is not a naturally diverse enough genre to pull it off. Nothing against them. Kudos for trying, but it blew fat c[size=2]ock[/size]. It was ****ing horrible. [/QUOTE]

Perhaps it isn't, but I'm arguing that it was great to try it, and I disagree, I thought it was a much better album then they'd done in years. At least it went back to their punk-based formula.

[QUOTE=Iscariot;17095680]
Where is the pop-punk rule book that says, "operate outside of the parameters of your personal talent to make more money"? I'm sure that rule book is sitting on the desks of Simple Plan and must have passed by Blink 182 around the time they made their self-titled album, but it's disappointing to see Green Day following the same path. And saying that they're doing something no one else has done is like saying they took a s[size=2]hit[/size] and forgot to flush for the very first time in recorded history.[/QUOTE]

Well I thought Blink's S/T was excellent as well. I like it when a band tries new things and expands their sounds. I guess that's why my favourite Metallica album is Load/Reload, while most hate them, I love them for being more alt rock.

Sir William 02-11-2009 04:42 PM

Actually I like Blink's S/T too I was just trying to make a point.

MattSharpIsCool 02-12-2009 12:29 AM

I respect Green Day for at least trying something new with AI. Maybe it didn't pan out so great, for most of the reasons Jared mentioned, but at least they tried with it.

ArgyleSocker 03-18-2009 05:28 PM

clips are starting to appear on their myspace

boundbytransience 03-18-2009 09:53 PM

Most nostalgic band ever.

Bad Blood 05-12-2009 11:40 AM

i've got it

it's pretty suhweeeeet actually.

fatkidzonmopedz 05-12-2009 12:21 PM

they sound boring as hell. all their damn music sounds exactly the same as american idiot.

MattSharpIsCool 05-13-2009 12:23 AM

I've only heard "Know Your Enemy" but it just sounds like a continuation of American Idiot.

What pisses me off the most is they might as well drop Mike Dirnt from the band. One of the few things that seperated Green Day from other bands in the genre is they actually had a bass player that knew what he was doing.

The last two albums he's just been playing 8th notes and it's boring as hell and I think it really takes away from their sound.

Jim West 05-13-2009 12:37 AM

yeah i hate the new single

i mean, i [i]hate[/i] the new single

i bought american idiot before i heard it because i was relying on what i'd heard before and it completely let me down, and from what i've heard so far for this upcoming album, i have zero interest in it

boundbytransience 05-13-2009 01:40 AM

Yeah, Know Your Enemy is effing awful. Probably the worst track on the album, hah.
And, go figure, they pick it for one of the singles.

If Green Day has any respect for themselves, they'll throw in the towel after they tour this lame album.

DannyBoyLewis 05-24-2009 09:46 AM

Green day hmm
 
well i was hoping they would suprise us with a good album cos i knew loads of people who said it was gonna be crap , but im sorry to say they were right , its so boring a shite, the only good song is know your enemy but its still boring , i dont get how they still are a signed band.

kitsch 05-24-2009 11:08 AM

lol


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