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tomg666 05-18-2006 01:05 PM

fret scalloping?
 
ok i have a tele im redoing i know what scalloping is as ive seen ywngie malmsteems strats but ive never playe don a scalloped fretboard first of all what kind of difference does it make and secondly once youve used a file on a rosewood fretboard that is really dark in colour wont there be scratches and how do you return it to its original colour basically would it be worth doing?

LewsTherin 05-18-2006 01:44 PM

scalloping offers a different feel, plus it changes the way you do vibrato/bending.


theres a tutorial here:
[URL="http://projectguitar.com/tut/scal1.htm"]http://projectguitar.com/tut/scal1.htm[/URL]

moghes69 05-18-2006 01:50 PM

just use some lemon oil to get the rosewood to look darker and fuller.

semi 05-18-2006 03:24 PM

scalloping will not make you play faster. it will teach you to press more lightly as pressing hard will make the string go out of tune. this in turn will get you used to pressing for a shorter ammount of time improving your playing and speed. it will allow for better bends and vibrato also. if i were you i would try it out first and see if you like it.

WindowLedge 05-19-2006 04:28 PM

Yeah my first reaction when I played a scalloped board was "OMG how do you slide on this thing". Play a bunch of scalloped guitars to make sure it's what you want before you do it.

Sir_Robert 05-22-2006 07:10 PM

where would i be able to pick up a file to use?

LewsTherin 05-22-2006 07:23 PM

[quote=r0bB]where would i be able to pick up a file to use?[/quote]

stewmac.com

any decent woodworking shop.

I_go_by_mikee 05-22-2006 09:45 PM

i just recently made my ibanez's frets scalloped towards the end.

i made a thread in the guitar forum.

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469604[/url]

Sir_Robert 05-22-2006 11:28 PM

did you put any type of finish on it when you were done? or just leave it?

mnemonic 05-22-2006 11:53 PM

if your doing a maple fretboard, your supposed to put a finish over it, but you dont have to on rosewood, or ebony

AG 05-23-2006 03:46 AM

I used a rasp with a second level file. I wouldn't recommend using a bastard cut.

CCR90 05-23-2006 05:49 AM

If you are going to do your whole freboard, using a file on the lower frets will take a hella long time. I'm scalloping one of my old gutiar necks and is it ever taking long.

What should I finish the neck with since it's maple?

LewsTherin 05-23-2006 02:55 PM

[quote=CCR90]If you are going to do your whole freboard, using a file on the lower frets will take a hella long time. I'm scalloping one of my old gutiar necks and is it ever taking long.

What should I finish the neck with since it's maple?[/quote]

i think it says in the tutorial from projectguitar i posted.

Darsh 05-23-2006 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=AG]I used a rasp with a second level file. I wouldn't recommend using a bastard cut.[/QUOTE]

When I scalloped my bass, I used a file with a bastard cut for roughing it out, than finished it with sandpaper. I guess using a finer file would save some time though.

[QUOTE=mnemonic]if your doing a maple fretboard, your supposed to put a finish over it, but you dont have to on rosewood, or ebony[/QUOTE]

On my rosewood fretboard, it drastically lightened the color, so I would definitely put some kind of finish on it.

CCR90 05-23-2006 04:35 PM

Oh, well I'll check projectgutiar again then.

I'm using a big rough bastard file right now to get the lower frets and then I jsut use a smaller finer bastard file and that takes a lot of work out instead of using a small round file lol.

Peg Dizzler 05-23-2006 07:02 PM

Personally, I find that buying a bunch of different sized wood dowels and some sandpaper is better. It seems to be faster that way. Even more so, if you have a good variety of dowel sizes, the scallops will look more even, instead of using a file or two on all of them.

mnemonic 05-23-2006 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=Darsh]On my rosewood fretboard, it drastically lightened the color, so I would definitely put some kind of finish on it.[/QUOTE]

it might not have been very dark rosewood, it seems to be a comon practice to rub dye into the fretboard to make it darker. gibson does it.

also, if its really dry, lemon oil helps

CCR90 05-23-2006 07:24 PM

[QUOTE=Peg Dizzler]Personally, I find that buying a bunch of different sized wood dowels and some sandpaper is better. It seems to be faster that way. Even more so, if you have a good variety of dowel sizes, the scallops will look more even, instead of using a file or two on all of them.[/QUOTE]


I'm finding that the 2 different files are working fairly well. But I am having a hard tiem trying to keep a certain depth, not that tit really matters on teh neck I'm doing. But hey, for a first timer, it's not as bad as that one pic that floats around.

CCR90 05-23-2006 08:00 PM

Here's an almost finished job. It looks really bad but it's just the lemon oil I put on the fretboard

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/CCR844/DSCI0440.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/CCR844/DSCI0443.jpg[/IMG]

This is what I started with.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/CCR844/1.jpg[/IMG]

Az_Holl 05-24-2006 12:25 AM

Has that got a zero fret?

Belfast Bassist 05-24-2006 05:46 AM

[QUOTE=Atomicant]Has that got a zero fret?[/QUOTE]

Yep.

CCR90: do you find the zero fret makes much difference?

CCR90 05-24-2006 05:50 AM

You know, I don't think it really makes a difference.

moghes69 05-24-2006 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=CCR90]Here's an almost finished job. It looks really bad but it's just the lemon oil I put on the fretboard

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/CCR844/DSCI0440.jpg[/IMG]

This is what I started with.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/CCR844/1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
i can't believe a rosewood fretboard got that light after you sanded it.

CCR90 05-24-2006 07:55 PM

Um ya, not rosewood, maple like markered or soemthing lol with some crappy plastic binding on the neck.

LewsTherin 05-24-2006 08:04 PM

"ebonized" maple, perhaps?

CCR90 05-24-2006 08:22 PM

possible, doubt it but who know's,70's beginner guitar.

LewsTherin 05-25-2006 12:20 PM

its not that uncommon.

alot of lower-end instruments (esp orchestral strings) have maple fingerboards that have been dyed black so they look like the traditional ebony.

Sir_Robert 05-25-2006 12:39 PM

ok so im gunna be scalloping prolly the last 4 or maybe 6 frets on my guitar this weekend. im using a 1/4 file and then some sandpaper to finish it off (maybe 600? i dno how fine i would need to go. can any help me out here?) also then im going to use some lemon oil on the fretboard and polish the frets. so to my question, is there anything else i should be doing to the fretboard once im done with all this? or is it ok to just leave it as is?

I_go_by_mikee 05-25-2006 02:14 PM

i wanna get an eboyn stain for it.

but i dont mind how it is now.

Akira 05-25-2006 03:21 PM

[img]http://www.shredaholic.com/images/m4448307-3012.jpg[/img]
[/Mandatory Scallopwn3d pic]


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