Yamaha Direct Drive Double bass pedal questions
 

Well, I'm thinking about picking up a Yamaha Double direct drive double bass pedal. I was just wondering how it compared with the other high end pedals, and is it as durable as other pedals? Also, how smooth is it? Thanks.

I've never tried one, but they look like they're built like a tank to me. I'd love to get one.

They are REALLY nice.

I brought iron cobras though, they were nicer.

Looks pretty sturdy. Dont like the look of the mounting claw thing

Right now, I'm deciding between Iron Cobras and the Yamaha Direct Drive. The Iron cobra looks to be alot better quality, and smoother, with better features, but I really like how the Direct drive feels on the yamaha, along with the felt beaters. I'm probably going to try them out at my local store(yamaha and tama pedals are the only ones they sell) and try to finalize my decision.

Good idea.

[QUOTE=dontblink182]Well, I'm thinking about picking up a Yamaha Double direct drive double bass pedal. I was just wondering how it compared with the other high end pedals, and is it as durable as other pedals? Also, how smooth is it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]


That's really something you should be trying out before you buy.


It's a high end pedal, just like all the other ones. Over designed and over built. Will last a lifetime if taken care of. And will be just as smooth as any other.


Direct drive is a very different feel though. Some love it. Some hate it. You should check it out in person along side other non direct drive pedals.

[QUOTE=dontblink182]Right now, I'm deciding between Iron Cobras and the Yamaha Direct Drive. The Iron cobra looks to be alot better quality, and smoother, with better features, but I really like how the Direct drive feels on the yamaha, [B]along with the felt beaters.[/B] I'm probably going to try them out at my local store(yamaha and tama pedals are the only ones they sell) and try to finalize my decision.[/QUOTE]

You can get felt beaters for the iron cobra too, (dunno if it comes with them, they couldn't cost alot though)

[QUOTE=Bone]Direct drive is a very different feel though. Some love it. Some hate it. You should check it out in person along side other non direct drive pedals.[/QUOTE]
(modern day) direct drive is better suited for high speed blasting and are less articulate at lower speeds. heel/toe may be very difficult depending on your settings.

direct drive requires more inertia then a chain or strap drive.

:wave:

[QUOTE=ThugsRook](modern day) direct drive is better suited for high speed blasting and are less articulate at lower speeds. heel/toe may be very difficult depending on your settings.

direct drive requires more inertia then a chain or strap drive.
[/QUOTE]



HAhahaha that's so laughable it isn't funny.


I'm still.. oh lordy.. hahaha hahaha

I'm sorry kid. But that's histerical. You might want to try studying physics before you talk about inhaha oh goodness.. hahahha

Thugs? Kid? Something here doesnt add up

I don't or at least, didn't think most adults are capable of such utter stupidity.

This kid, adolescent, teenager.. whatever. Whoever he is he has no clue what he's talking about.

He's around the 30 mark somewhere IIRC... maybe 25 but deffo 25 or above

[QUOTE=Bone]I don't or at least, didn't think most adults are capable of such utter stupidity.

This kid, adolescent, teenager.. whatever. Whoever he is he has no clue what he's talking about.[/QUOTE]
i know what im talking about, im prolly just not explaining it correctly. sorry.

No, you don't.

But go ahead and try to explain why direct drive pedals are "better for blasting" but less articulate at lower speeds... oh my goodness thats so retarded.

The inertia comment is just totally wanting of an understanding of the word.

Laughter is good, and you are providing it free of charge... please, contiune.

[QUOTE=Bone]No, you don't.

But go ahead and try to explain why direct drive pedals are "better for blasting" but less articulate at lower speeds... oh my goodness thats so retarded.

The inertia comment is just totally wanting of an understanding of the word.

Laughter is good, and you are providing it free of charge... please, contiune.[/QUOTE]
actually right now im more interested in your explaination of the differences between direct, chain, and strap.

I'm not going to bother. Here's a link for you to start your studies however..

[url]http://www.pearldrum.com/03_nuupdts/edu/articles/student/okamoto_pedals.html[/url]

I could have a lot of fun with this.. but I'm just going to only quote a few words from that very informative write up Gene did.

Them - "....come to mind as pedals with solid link drives. Because there's no slack in the drive, the footboard and beater move in perfect tandem thus making these pedals favorites of those who demand absolute precision. "

You - "..and are less articulate at lower speeds."

Um Hmm

Yea I must say thugs thats pretty silly. I agree with ya on alot of things but this one... Sheesh!

I can see where thugs is coming from i think.

With a powerglide you can press the pedal slower and you still get the power boost at the end of the stroke, but with direct drive you lose that power?

[QUOTE=Bone]HAhahaha that's so laughable it isn't funny.


I'm still.. oh lordy.. hahaha hahaha

I'm sorry kid. But that's histerical. You might want to try studying physics before you talk about inhaha oh goodness.. hahahha[/QUOTE]
No more beng a dick for you...tsk, tsk. Oh and he's definitely not a kid.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I can see where thugs is coming from i think.

With a powerglide you can press the pedal slower and you still get the power boost at the end of the stroke, but with direct drive you lose that power?[/QUOTE]


Haha no.

The reason you get that "power boost" as you say has to do with the cam ratio's. In this sense you are refearing to an accelerated cam design. The cam is designed so that the more you push the pedal down, the more the beater moves as it gets closer to the head (pedal gets lower).

Where as a linear cam would simply be a 1:1 ratio of movement throughout the entire stroke of the pedal

DirectDrive's can be design in such a way as to have an accelerated caming motion, though I believe that all the current ones on the market are pretty linear. The BOA may not be, it looks like it has a bit of an over center pivot point in the motion.

[QUOTE=Double Bass Jim]Yea I must say thugs thats pretty silly. I agree with ya on alot of things but this one... Sheesh![/QUOTE]
sorry Jim, im not really able to explain myself properly on this one so i will gladly bow out ;)

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I can see where thugs is coming from i think.

With a powerglide you can press the pedal slower and you still get the power boost at the end of the stroke, but with direct drive you lose that power?[/QUOTE]
actually Phil i wasnt refering to the cam. what im trying to say has todo with the direct attatchment to the pedal plate, and the way that direct drives "return" to the normal possition after a hit. but the words to explain it eludes me.

id like to hear someones explaination tho ;)