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NavyBass 06-03-2005 02:18 PM

Why MIA Fender costs more than CIJ or MIM
 
I've posted this before but figured that I should post it here also. Here is a list of items found on the MIA basses that aren't on the CIJ or MIM.

MIA Fender Basses have;

Graphite re-enforced necks
Bi-flex 2 way truss rod
Die Cast tuners
Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing
Better pickups
Better electronics (potentiometers)
Much better fretwork
Better grade of wood for the body and neck
Comes with a hardshell case
Straplocks


This is why the MIA basses cost more than the other Fenders.

Just FYI

tim_commerfordism 06-03-2005 02:28 PM

whats the difference in MIJ's to MIM's and MIA's?

:rolleyes: :p

NavyBass 06-03-2005 03:19 PM

The MIJ's are in between the MIA and MIM.

Most of the MIJ's are either Vintage reissues that are made in Japan or signature models like the Sting and Geddy. They usually use vintage reproduction parts.

Anarchy&Peace 06-29-2005 10:15 PM

ive got an american j bass and what will the "Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing" affect? tone?, action?, anything?

LewsTherin 06-29-2005 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=XpunksXdeadX]ive got an american j bass and what will the "Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing" affect? tone?, action?, anything?[/QUOTE]

string-through will give you more sustain
top-load will give your attack more punch, i think.

hartke20g 06-30-2005 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=JPBass]I've posted this before but figured that I should post it here also. Here is a list of items found on the MIA basses that aren't on the CIJ or MIM.

MIA Fender Basses have;

Graphite re-enforced necks
Bi-flex 2 way truss rod
Die Cast tuners
Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing
Better pickups
Better electronics (potentiometers)
Much better fretwork
Better grade of wood for the body and neck
Comes with a hardshell case
Straplocks


This is why the MIA basses cost more than the other Fenders.

Just FYI[/QUOTE]






whats a CIJ?

Anarchy&Peace 07-01-2005 03:36 AM

crafted in japan

I-cant-sing 07-01-2005 05:46 AM

wow, i wash just going to ask this in the pit. Myn only question is, which of the three guitars are the most reliable, and what is the hardcase that comes with it like. I will be travelling around the world with mine so will it hold up.

LewsTherin 07-01-2005 08:41 AM

[QUOTE=I-cant-sing]wow, i wash just going to ask this in the pit. Myn only question is, which of the three guitars are the most reliable, and what is the hardcase that comes with it like. I will be travelling around the world with mine so will it hold up.[/QUOTE]

the MIA will most likely be the most reliable, as the most care is taken in building them, and better materials are used.

the fender hardshells are pretty good. i dont know if theyd pass as a flightcase, but they can take a beating.

Radiobass81 07-01-2005 11:30 AM

*can finally prove Eddie wrong*

Chaos 07-01-2005 01:16 PM

wow thanks a lot this is very helpful.

PainKiller8191 07-01-2005 02:11 PM

dude....look at the price differences though...i mean:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=122/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/515201/c_lv=1/[/url]
and slap the word "america" on it:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=122/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/511390/c_lv=1/[/url]

is
"Graphite re-enforced necks
Bi-flex 2 way truss rod
Die Cast tuners
Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing
Better pickups
Better electronics (potentiometers)
Much better fretwork
Better grade of wood for the body and neck
Comes with a hardshell case
Straplocks"
that really worth double the MIM/MIJ/whatever the first one is!?!?!????????
i need an answer quick it would either save my life or force me to wait and work another year or two

LewsTherin 07-01-2005 02:19 PM

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]dude....look at the price differences though...i mean:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=122/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/515201/c_lv=1/[/url]
and slap the word "america" on it:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=122/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/511390/c_lv=1/[/url]

is
"Graphite re-enforced necks
Bi-flex 2 way truss rod
Die Cast tuners
Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing
Better pickups
Better electronics (potentiometers)
Much better fretwork
Better grade of wood for the body and neck
Comes with a hardshell case
Straplocks"
that really worth double the MIM/MIJ/whatever the first one is!?!?!????????
i need an answer quick it would either save my life or force me to wait and work another year or two[/QUOTE]

yeah, it really is worth it.

EDIT: Of course, Mexi's are still good instruments, and Im sure youd be happy with one, but yes, I think the americans warrant the doubling in price.

PainKiller8191 07-01-2005 02:24 PM

that's really amazing...
do you think it's worth it? i mean as all you guys from the forum, do u think I should go for the american...coz I really want this to be like the bass i have for the next couple years, and have it be reliable and i wouldnt wanna change anything about it....?

LewsTherin 07-01-2005 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]that's really amazing...
do you think it's worth it? i mean as all you guys from the forum, do u think I should go for the american...coz I really want this to be like the bass i have for the next couple years, and have it be reliable and i wouldnt wanna change anything about it....?[/QUOTE]

A mexi would do you fine for a long time, plus theyre highly upgradable.

An american would probably last forever.

I-cant-sing 07-02-2005 02:21 AM

[QUOTE=LewsTherin]A mexi would do you fine for a long time, plus theyre highly upgradable.

An american would probably last forever.[/QUOTE]
i need one for gigging, do you think there is much differance between the tone of the two basses (mex+ame) when played with a pic. :thumb: I really like the colours that the american offers aswell. :thumb:

PainKiller8191 07-02-2005 02:39 AM

I'm guessing the american would have different tone (if not better) than the mexican not only because of the materials used to make it, but also coz it's got a J humbucker in the bridge and the mex has one J

I-cant-sing 07-02-2005 03:03 AM

what is the s-1 switching system like, is it reliable?

Anarchy&Peace 07-02-2005 03:15 AM

[QUOTE=LewsTherin]the MIA will most likely be the most reliable, as the most care is taken in building them, and better materials are used.

the fender hardshells are pretty good. i dont know if theyd pass as a flightcase, but they can take a beating.[/QUOTE]
When i got the hardshell i got a big lecture about how i should buy this one instead of "brand x", well it cost about a hundred bucks but i guess its shatter proof, bullet proof (kinda hard to believe), and allowed on airlines you can stick it in the coat closet thing.

good rats 07-02-2005 03:34 AM

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]I'm guessing the american would have different tone (if not better) than the mexican not only because of the materials used to make it, but also coz it's got a J humbucker in the bridge and the mex has one J[/QUOTE]
What? You can get Mexi's with P/J configs, J/J configs, P configs. Mexi's don't just have P/J configs.

The American will have a better tone because it has much better electronics.

deemo 07-02-2005 10:52 AM

[QUOTE=good rats]The American will have a better tone because it has much better electronics.[/QUOTE]

don't forget... tone is subjective. i've liked some squiers' tone much better than americans.

I-cant-sing 07-02-2005 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=deemo]don't forget... tone is subjective. i've liked some squiers' tone much better than americans.[/QUOTE]
thats if you like the sound of tin lol

PainKiller8191 07-02-2005 12:31 PM

i-cant-sing, you're just being stupid now, there alot of alright squiers out there, every brand name's got its lower quality insturments and higher quality ones....

as for radio, show me a mexican with a J humbucker...only in america:)

LewsTherin 07-03-2005 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=good rats]What? You can get Mexi's with P/J configs, J/J configs, P configs. Mexi's don't just have P/J configs.

[/QUOTE]


yea but he was comparing the P-Bass Special (P/J) to the American Deluxe P (P/HB)

Radiobass81 07-03-2005 01:45 PM

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]as for radio, show me a mexican with a J humbucker...only in america:)[/QUOTE]

*confused*

LewsTherin 07-03-2005 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]*confused*[/QUOTE]

/doesnt think he meant to adress that to you.

Az_Holl 07-03-2005 07:09 PM

Wouldnt the MIA cost more as well because of labour costs? Id assume that the American builders would get more then the Japanese or Mexican workers.

Radiobass81 07-03-2005 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=LewsTherin]/doesnt think he meant to adress that to you.[/QUOTE]

Didn't he say "Hey radio"?

LewsTherin 07-03-2005 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]Didn't he say "Hey radio"?[/QUOTE]

yeah, he did, but i dont think he meant to. he prolly just got you confused with someone else.

LewsTherin 07-03-2005 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=Atomicant]Wouldnt the MIA cost more as well because of labour costs? Id assume that the American builders would get more then the Japanese or Mexican workers.[/QUOTE]

yes. the americans get paid more.


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