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Elementary Slapping And Popping
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[b][u]Slapping[/u][/b]
Slapping is a sound made by striking the string with your thumb. - Hold your thumb parallel to the string - Twist your wrist sharply so that the thumb hits the string, and pull away again immediately. I've often thought that slapping was closer to a Drumming technique than a stringed instrument technique. You're looking for the same kind of bounce off the string as if you were drumming. Slapping is easiest on the E string, so start there and work your way onto the other strings. You don't have to slap hard, as a general guide I slap the back of my left hand with my thumb, and if it hurts AT ALL I'm slapping too hard. I personally slap near the fretboard, but experiment with this. [b][u] Popping [/u][/b] Popping is a technique commonly used in conjunction with slapping. Usually slapping will be used on the lower strings, with popping covering the higher ones. - using your index or middle finger, pull the string away from the fretboard, perpendicular to it. - release. This doesn't have to be hard either, you are not trying to break a string. The beauty of slapping and popping in conjunction is that a slap sets you up for a pop and vice-versa. A good exercise for slapping and popping is the song 'Higher Ground' as covered by the RHCP. A tab is included here. Slap the lower notes, and pop the high ones. Build up speed until you can play along with the song. Incidentally, this song uses octaves almost exclusively, going two strings up and two frets up like this is an octave and is a handy tool in songwriting. Other good songs for demonstrating slap include: Oysterhead - Little Faces, Mr. Oysterhead Red Hot Chili Peppers - Can't Stop (during the guitar solo), Aeroplane, Higher Ground Primus - Antipop, Golden Boy, Tommy The Cat (Hard) Awakening, most other songs Wooten - Classical Thump (Extremely hard) Marcus Miller - Teen Town (Hard) Ella Fitzgerald - Slap That Bass (Easy) Mudvayne - Dig If you have any questions or comments, I check this thread most days and will reply as soon as I can. If you ask a question here and I can't help you out properly, feel free to add me to your MSN (gehennaprophet@hotmail.com) and I'll try and help one to one. [url]www.soundclick.com/apgmxmusic.htm[/url] - download 'Slap Demo'. This is a brief demonstration of the technique. I first slap each of the strings, then pop each of the strings, then have a quick run through RHCP's 'Higher Ground' and Oysterhead's 'Little Faces' * * * * * * * * * * [i][u]Addendum[/u][/i] This is an addition about gear. People ask questions such as which basses are best, and similar. So here are some important points. [color=red][b]NEVER[/b][/color] slap on a fretless bass unless you are VERY sure you know what you are doing. It can tear the neck apart, unless it has been made from a select list of hardwoods, or has a slap plate. You see, when you slap, the string hits the frets hard. This is what causes the characteristic noise. If there are no frets, the string hits the wood, and this can quite quickly cause noticeable damage. As for which basses are good/bad for slapping, no high end basses are bad for slapping. (bar fretless models) Some say the Fender Jazz isn't good for it, but it's good enough for Marcus Miller, one of the masters of slap... However if one must be chosen as best, the Ernie Ball MusicMan Stingray is often acclaimed as the greatest standard production bass for slapping. EQ - I personally use a 'scooped' EQ setting for slapping, Low:6, Mids:3 High:7 though I can think of at least one MXer who uses a very high Mids - experiment with this for yourself! |
nice but you forgot to mention that when you slap you nead to make sure that you slap on where the neck ends.
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dumb question by a slap n00b, but when I start to slap fretted notes, the strings keep tapping the bottom fret for an annoying 'dead' metallic tap rather than the actual note. any ideas on whats wrong? any help/advice would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NewFoundBassist [/i]
[B]dumb question by a slap n00b, but when I start to slap fretted notes, the strings keep tapping the bottom fret for an annoying 'dead' metallic tap rather than the actual note. any ideas on whats wrong? any help/advice would be appreciated. [/B][/QUOTE] Ah, it seems that either you arn't taking ur thumb away quick enough or your bass has too low action, that problem can be fixed quite easily by a guitar/bass tech Anyway, I found its also possible to slap using any of the fingers on your right hand instead of your thumb, simply put the finger at a right angle with the fingertip just above the string and do that sterotyped gay guy limp wrist thing real quick and as it goes with using your thumb, ur looking for minimum contact time with the string. Actually its a pretty useless technique and i cant find any good uses for it but i thought id post it neway:p |
Jacksloadedgun, I'm not sure what you mean but I think I mentioned that.
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took me awhile to get the sterotypical gay guy's wrist thing. but i figured it out! :thumb:
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What part of my thumb should I be hitting the string with? Like the side kind or right on the bottom?
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The left side of your right thumb (or v.v.) - unless you wanna be WeIrD!
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[url]http://www.warwickbass.com/basssurvival101/lesson_5slap.htm[/url] should be added to the first post :thumb:
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Offspringer - outer side of the right thumb, on the outer knuckle. It may hurt a bit at first but you'll soon build up a callous.
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ok, i have a dendancy to pull my hand back as soon as i slap and its making my popping slow. any suggestions?
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You should be able to hook your finger into place as you slap, ideally.
Seems like a facetious answer but 'don't' is about all I can say. Work on not pulling your hand away. You need to pull your thumb off the string, but not your hand away from the bass, for exactly the reasons you've already discovered. Try popping twice in rapid succesion, going for the bounce I described earlier. If you can get that right then you won't be pulling away from the bass too much. |
Just a question. How do i mute E when slapping D ? i always hit the E srting a little and it buzz's. Thanks for that but, that and the warwick page. i can slap now :D
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you have to practice and make sure that you don't hit the E string when you are popping the D, if you mant tryign to mute it and making a mute slap then just put presure on the string and slap it not to hard otherwise you will get some buzz.
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to mute the strings so it doesnt buzz for too long, get your sisters or your prison mates hair tye- the scrunchy fuzzy ones, and wrap it around the neck, like a capo for bass, this is what such bassists as victor wooten and p-nut do! cheers
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^^Wouldnt that get annoying but?^^
:D I can slap great now, playing stuff like coffee shop-RHCP. Once you get the hang of it, it's not hard at all really (shhh, everyone that doesnt play bass, or can't do it, thinks its like the hardest thing in the world and are mega impressed when you do it ;)) |
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Isn't it great? :D |
yeah, but remember its one thing to hit the string with your thumb but its another thing to get it to sound good :thumb:
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Two questions.
I'm sitting here with my bass around me and am doing this, and am getting it. But I've come to see that slapping and popping sound essentially the same no matter where you do it. Can't you just do one or the other for a full song? For example, I point to (insert random song full of slaps and pops). Could you just slap the entire song or pop it? And secondly, does it really make a difference where you do your slaps? I've tried this, too. I like to stay...er...I guess "central" with my playing. As in if I start out playing between the pickups (why? theres about an inch freedom, but just exemplifying), I want to stay there, even if I have to slap and pop and so on. So does it make a difference? |
Okay I've read all this watched that movie on that site and read that. And I'm still clueless on what to do. I put my hand over the bass sharply turn my wrists, using the knuckle of my thumb I hit the string right where the neck ends and when I bring my finger up I pluck the string...if I'm doing this right it sound just like if I were to play normally. I don't see a difference in tone or anything except for the annoying metal click.
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trev913 - it's a case of convenience. Slapping is easier on lower strings, popping is easier on higher. Plus, alternating between the two is faster than doing one twice. And some people find they get a sharper tone when they slap at the base of the fretboard, but that's a matter of opinion.
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[quote=Blessthemartyr4]Okay I've read all this watched that movie on that site and read that. And I'm still clueless on what to do. I put my hand over the bass sharply turn my wrists, using the knuckle of my thumb I hit the string right where the neck ends and when I bring my finger up I pluck the string...if I'm doing this right it sound just like if I were to play normally. I don't see a difference in tone or anything except for the annoying metal click.[/quote]
First up, are you plugged into an amp? If not, do so. If you are, set your EQ to around about Low-8 Mids-3 High-8 and try again. Failing that, lower your action a little. Alternatively, it could be that you have a very rough tone in ordinary playing (don't take offense, I've never heard you play, I'm just going through all possibilities). If it IS the case, ease up, play more smoothly, and you'll hear more of a difference when you slap. How old are your strings? If they're losing their tone, then you may find changing them, or maybe boiling them will help. |
I find that I can usually slap fine when the string is open, but when I'm fretting a note, all I get is a clanging sound. This also happens if I try to hammer on instead. The slap doesn't sound very loud, is it supposed to be as loud as picking a string?
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I find it louder than picking a string.
Start with the obvious - if you aren't plugged into an amp, plug into one. Other than that, sounds like you're getting a muted note, which implies that you're fretting incorrectly. How does it sound when you play notes fretted normally? |
[QUOTE=Wintermute]First up, are you plugged into an amp? If not, do so. If you are, set your EQ to around about [B]Low-8 Mids-3 High-8[/B] and try again. Failing that, lower your action a little.
Alternatively, it could be that you have a very rough tone in ordinary playing (don't take offense, I've never heard you play, I'm just going through all possibilities). If it IS the case, ease up, play more smoothly, and you'll hear more of a difference when you slap. How old are your strings? If they're losing their tone, then you may find changing them, or maybe boiling them will help.[/QUOTE] thanks man, i was having real trouble figuring out a good eq setup for slap bass. :thumb: |
It sounds quite normal when I don't slap. The note rings out fine and sounds good. I get a bit of clanging when I play the same note quickly (especially on E), however.
I think I have the hang of slapping pretty well, but the clanging is holding me back a bit. I'm pretty sure it's not the way I'm slapping it, as I can do it on open pretty well. |
[QUOTE=jacksloadedgun]nice but you forgot to mention that when you slap you nead to make sure that you slap on where the neck ends.[/QUOTE]
not entirley, there is a technique for slapping on the neck, in the middle of the neck, for instance slap the neck, but hold down youre left index on the 3rd fret of E, when slapped at 3 take your ring and middle and hammer on and pull off of 5 then 4. its like fretboard slap/tap...ing ha |
[QUOTE=burntgorilla]It sounds quite normal when I don't slap. The note rings out fine and sounds good. I get a bit of clanging when I play the same note quickly (especially on E), however.
I think I have the hang of slapping pretty well, but the clanging is holding me back a bit. I'm pretty sure it's not the way I'm slapping it, as I can do it on open pretty well.[/QUOTE] Sounds like a case of extreme fretbuzz - how low is your action? if you raise it, you may find you get a cleaner, less clangy sound. Again - no offence if you know, I just tend to assume people don't to cut down the number of posts I have to make - the action is the distance between the string and the frets. Particularly the 12th fret. It can be raised at the bridge. On my bass you need a small allan key, but that varies with the model. |
Cool, this thread help me a bit. But I was curious as to what strings some people use to slap with. Like what gauge, brand, ect. whatever really.
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That I can't help you with - don't have a lot of experience with string guages and such. I get a nice slap sound with my Warwick strings, but I also did with my D'Addarios.
Anyone else have any suggestions? |
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