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breakster 01-21-2005 09:13 AM

I prefer the slide tecnnique
 
lately there has been alot of hype bout the "heel-toe" technique but after learning to play both i prefer the slide technique and can still get fast triplets effortlessly. Any one else use the slide technique predominately? And does anyone want instructions on it since there is more than enough on heel-toe? thanks

ilikenoise 01-21-2005 09:52 AM

I find slideing easier to do, especially because I've got quite big feet. You can get the doubles and triplets all even aswell I find, or If you want accents, it's easier to do aswell. With hell toe I think you just get the two sounds: loud or quiet.

breakster 01-21-2005 10:16 AM

I agree, my feet are only between a 8 and 9 but i still have trouble with my iron cobra. heel-toe doesnt impress me much...

Det_Nosnip 01-21-2005 12:03 PM

Oh, I dunno....Porcaro? :p He had a nasty slide technique, very fast and clean doubles.

Josiah 01-21-2005 12:04 PM

Yea.. very true!

If you can do it.. do it.

breakster 01-21-2005 03:45 PM

too true. but hav any of u guys tried bouncing the foot a bit instead of a complete slide. it helps on grippy pedals like the eliminator.

dank drummer 01-21-2005 06:09 PM

im up to trying this technique, anyone have a explanation?

poppinfresh 01-21-2005 06:33 PM

I think mylious johnson called this a "modified moeler thecnique" i do this also its much easier to figure out.

breakster 01-22-2005 07:05 AM

ok well. lets say you wanna play a double on ur bass in 16th notes:
For the first stroke, your foot needs to be quite far down the pedal (i do this heel up).
use your toes and push down but as soon as u hit, u slide your foot up to the top of the pedal and hit again.
May sound useless, but the pedal is slanted upwards right? So if you slide your foot almost forward the second stroke will happen with out you doing much because you are still pushing the pedal down.
This technique may be harder to visualise than "heel-toe" but it is actually so much easier and smoother.

Don't know if thats a good explanation, but if u cant understand, il draw a picture or try do a little movie clip for you.

MartinGoff 01-22-2005 09:51 AM

I use the slide technique, now I have been shown how to do it properly by my instructor. Takes a bit of getting used to, but IMHO much more versatile than heel/toe in the long run.

breakster 01-23-2005 06:53 AM

its also great for accenting certain bass notes because u have more control then with HT

Jezen 01-24-2005 03:00 AM

Its pretty good, but it doesn't help when you want to go to triplets or further. :lol:

breakster 01-24-2005 08:34 AM

i dont know, i can go pretty fast. eg triplets and further.

playwithfire 01-24-2005 10:07 AM

I've never noticed any more hype about the heel-toe technique than I have about the slide technique. Slide technique is more versatile, but is harder to learn. Either is good to know.

breakster 01-24-2005 11:34 AM

well put

MartinGoff 01-24-2005 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=British Boy]Its pretty good, but it doesn't help when you want to go to triplets or further. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Having seen Andy Edwards play bloody fast triplets using the slide technique with ONE FOOT, I can quite confidently state that you are most incorrect sir!

musicpfdg 01-25-2005 03:30 AM

what is slide technique ?
i know foot,toe and heel-toe technique
what is the 4th?

breakster 01-25-2005 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=musicpfdg]what is slide technique ?
i know foot,toe and heel-toe technique
what is the 4th?[/QUOTE]
um the slide technique is the 4th. its kind of like a toe toe tecnique, i explain in in one of the above posts.

musicpfdg 01-31-2005 04:02 AM

could you please guide me a clip ? or a picture ? anything ? a url ?

breakster 01-31-2005 09:39 AM

ok, i just need to get hold of a camera, check back in a couple days and il either have my own clip or an url for you.

StormX 01-31-2005 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=musicpfdg]could you please guide me a clip ? or a picture ? anything ? a url ?[/QUOTE]

he already said it

[quote=breakster]ok well. lets say you wanna play a double on ur bass in 16th notes:
For the first stroke, your foot needs to be quite far down the pedal (i do this heel up).
use your toes and push down but as soon as u hit, u slide your foot up to the top of the pedal and hit again.
May sound useless, but the pedal is slanted upwards right? So if you slide your foot almost forward the second stroke will happen with out you doing much because you are still pushing the pedal down.
This technique may be harder to visualise than "heel-toe" but it is actually so much easier and smoother.[/quote]

PowerStamp 02-01-2005 01:19 AM

[QUOTE=breakster]I agree, my feet are only between a 8 and 9 but i still have trouble with my iron cobra. heel-toe doesnt impress me much...[/QUOTE]
yea same here...I mean big feet. My shoes are 11 right now (though I'm very short), but my last shoes were 9 and I can wear 10 too, it all depends on the brand.

But I find slide a LOT easier, i can't even DO heel-toe on my pedal, my heel with heel-down rests at the bottom (non-moving) part of the pedal

breakster 02-01-2005 11:20 AM

what pedal do u have?

ToMsK 02-01-2005 02:44 PM

is the slide technique simialr to what Chad Smith uses? i saw a video of him a while back and from what you describe it sounds to me like he does that. or is it me not understanding?

Tyrnox 02-01-2005 08:48 PM

Actually, I too use the slide technique, and have always used it. I just never really had the Heel-toe down right with my Iron Cobra's, and never really bothered to sit down and get Heel-Toe working since Slide works great for me.

breakster 02-02-2005 07:44 AM

[QUOTE=ToMsK]is the slide technique simialr to what Chad Smith uses? i saw a video of him a while back and from what you describe it sounds to me like he does that. or is it me not understanding?[/QUOTE]
I havnt seen the vid, but he probably does use the slide technique im talking about.

musicpfdg 02-03-2005 04:41 AM

with slide technique we can play triplets? or 2 notes? or both ?
actually i havn't try it yet , i play out side of the home and it is too cold here !
anyway any clip ? pic ?

breakster 02-22-2005 02:43 PM

*bump*
im just making it easier for the guy who was interested in slide to find this thread.
sorry

TDrummer219 02-22-2005 02:49 PM

sweet, I could never even atempt HT because i wear size 11 shoes. I'm excited gonna go try now.

trysthedrummer 02-22-2005 02:55 PM

Thanks for bumping this thread. Cheers. :)


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