[QUOTE=matious;18821443]yo son, those are very average lyrics. Thats being generous.

Be a big boy and actually listen to el-p[/QUOTE]

I actually listen to El-P and love most of his production but calling him a better lyricist than Vast Aire? It's not me the one who has to be a big boy ;)

Dude, try to prove otherwise.

Your not going to be able to quote any of his lyrics(they're mediocre), or use his flow as a positive aspect, because he only has 1.

He's garbage, and if your a self-respecting hip hop listener, I'm confident you will eventually figure this out.

I'm not trying to make this the "matious needs to validate his own opinions" thread

but guys, c'mon, Vast Aire? Fucking[I] Vast Aire[/I]?

His name is VAST AIRE. Thats lame enough right there.

Out of Cannibal Ox's Cold Vein, Company Flow's Funcrsuher Plus, and El-P's Fantastic Damage, I'd choose Cold Vein w/o a doubt. Now I'm not sure if that's because of the rapping or the production.

fantastic damage is my fave out of those purely in terms of production

cold vein probably has the best rapping

vast aire is great, but listen to any vast aire record besides cold vein and tell me it doesn't suck. el-p is easily a better rapper and definitely lifted cold vein up to where it is. everything he touches is a classic pretty much.

cannibal ox and el-p are both terrible

[QUOTE=robertsona;18822153]cannibal ox and el-p are both terrible[/QUOTE]

lol
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuwthdHxBJI[/url]

nice try

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;18822110]vast aire is great, but listen to any vast aire record besides cold vein and tell me it doesn't suck. el-p is easily a better rapper and definitely lifted cold vein up to where it is. everything he touches is a classic pretty much.[/QUOTE]

Thanks dog

I just don't understand how the two are even comparable.

Maybe it's cuz we both rep 612.

You excited for soundset? El-P, Danny Bown, Aesop Rock etc. Way better lineup than last year fersure.

damn, might have to go. is el-p there this year? didn't see him on the main webpage. if he's there i am down for sure

damn i swear a saw a list where he was on it. damn, i was super excited :(

Still got aesop rock at least

To be honest EL-P is so much better than vast aire...no doubt

[QUOTE=matious;18821862]Dude, try to prove otherwise.

Your not going to be able to quote any of his lyrics(they're mediocre), or use his flow as a positive aspect, because he only has 1.

He's garbage, and if your a self-respecting hip hop listener, I'm confident you will eventually figure this out.[/QUOTE]

I can quote any line off The Cold Vein, even those you quoted. I mean you find them wack? If you are a self-respecting hip hop listener you should do your h/w and realize that lyrically Vast Aire in the Cannibal Ox days was way ahead off any El-P time. Besides The Cold Vein he is bad, i accept that. No surprise that you like El-P as an MC that much. Since you are new to this forum why don't you mention any other preferences you have? And last but not least how old are you?

[QUOTE=WooHa;18823298]I can quote any line off The Cold Vein, even those you quoted.]


[/quote]
[QUOTE]Plus your girl's sex technology, I wanna plug in
Now every golden egg my goose lay stay golden[/QUOTE]

Damn, your right vast aire really snaps. I'm sorry guys i've been blinded this whole time.:chug:

[QUOTE]I mean you find them wack? If you are a self-respecting hip hop listener you should do your h/w and realize that lyrically Vast Aire in the Cannibal Ox days was way ahead off any El-P time.
[/QUOTE]

I can't even respond to this. Your right, I really haven't been doing my homework, it was foolish to think I could justify my opinion.
[quote]
[B]No surprise that you like El-P as an MC that much.[/B] Since you are new to this forum why don't you mention any other preferences you have? And last but not least how old are you?[/QUOTE]
Why is that?

I'm kinda old

Preferences are music thats rewarding and has replay value.

funcrusher plus >>>>>>>

also that el-p verse someone quoted reminded me of a lil wayne verse from bun bs second album

[quote]one two three, wait, fo' fo' makes eight
nine times out of ten, it's an eleven or a 12 gauge
friday the 13th, that's the day that hell raised
but y'all boys too weak, like 14 days[/quote]

except that wayne verse blows

[QUOTE=matious;18823371]
I can't even respond to this. Your right, I really haven't been doing my homework, it was foolish to think I could justify my opinion.

Why is that?
[/QUOTE]
Why is that?

[I]I'm a Rocky, run a hundred a mile before my coffee[/I]

And then you quote lines off The Cold Vein and baptize them wack...Hmmm

[QUOTE=publicastration;18823420]except that wayne verse blows[/QUOTE]

true

that el-p verse fucking rules too. whole song is awesome. except despot. fuck despot.

second part of that song is fuckin great... Danny Brown and EL-P!!

[QUOTE=WooHa;18823521]Why is that?

[I]I'm a Rocky, run a hundred a mile before my coffee[/I]

[/QUOTE]

That line is funny I think. You seem pretty young to be drinking coffee, but when you depend on it, the idea of being able to wake up and run a hundred miles before drinking it is funny.

Maybe that's why you like vast aire, no subtle nuance. Everything he says is clear and obvious.

That chalky outline is a father figure

those are some deep lines man, vast aire is talking about how there are no fathers for the babies in the ghetto. LOL

Sorry to be using hyperbole,
we will have to agree to disagree about this.

[QUOTE=matious;18823635]That line is funny I think. You seem pretty young to be drinking coffee, but when you depend on it, the idea of being able to wake up and run a hundred miles before drinking it is funny.

Maybe that's why you like vast aire, no subtle nuance. Everything he says is clear and obvious.

That chalky outline is a father figure

those are some deep lines man, vast aire is talking about how there are no fathers for the babies in the ghetto. LOL

Sorry to be using hyperbole,
we will have to agree to disagree about this.[/QUOTE]

listen buddy,

not everyone can be as good as mf doom


just sayin :p

haha
I see ya what your saying dude, I guess I should be more self aware of my way-too-high standards for rap music, of all genres

I guess I just have a bone to pick when it comes to vast aire vs el-p because of their myspace beef from 2009 lol
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2009/08/today_in_rap_be.php

Vast Aire to El-P: ""IF I DONT LIKE YOUR BEAT I DONT LIKE IT, YOU ****ING EMO BITCH!""
lol

okay whats the beef if he dont like a beat he dont like it

matious you're kind of an asshole

matious is the best new person in awhile

also kind of the only new person

[QUOTE=Idnuf;18823812]matious you're kind of an asshole[/QUOTE]

I'd agree with this. Can we get this out in the open now so i'm free to say my opinions without steppin on toes?

@publicastration

He did a diss track too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY6NJiguU8Y

Funnily enough he uses parts of cannibal ox in it

i know god forbid we have debate in this forum again instead of HAM and CRAY being spammed

[QUOTE=matious;18823724]haha
I see ya what your saying dude, I guess I should be more self aware of my way-too-high standards for rap music, of all genres

I guess I just have a bone to pick when it comes to vast aire vs el-p because of their myspace beef from 2009 lol
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2009/08/today_in_rap_be.php

Vast Aire to El-P: ""IF I DONT LIKE YOUR BEAT I DONT LIKE IT, YOU ****ING EMO BITCH!""
lol[/QUOTE]

easily the worst thing vast aire did for his career right there, as you can see by all the gems he's released since cold vein. now he just raps over beats that sound like rza

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjP8jQ6Pd4g&feature=related[/url]

this is one of the few good tracks he's rolled out

[QUOTE=matious;18823635]That line is funny I think. You seem pretty young to be drinking coffee, but when you depend on it, the idea of being able to wake up and run a hundred miles before drinking it is funny.

Maybe that's why you like vast aire, no subtle nuance. Everything he says is clear and obvious.

That chalky outline is a father figure

those are some deep lines man, vast aire is talking about how there are no fathers for the babies in the ghetto. LOL

Sorry to be using hyperbole,
we will have to agree to disagree about this.[/QUOTE]
Yes i don't drink coffee even now that i am 21. But that doesn't change the fact that El-P isn't that good MC. :P

It's good having such a conversation, forum's alive again.

Last 3-4 days Ive been listening FANTASTIC DAMAGE.... It's fuckin fantastic, production, rhymes everything

youre such a faggot luc

wooha youre worse though

^the truth if ive ever heard it

Don't let this topic died

children of every race creed and religion frolic through fields of golden dandelions.

lil bitch