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LittlePound 05-31-2006 09:55 PM

Should some rated 'r' movies be illegal for kids under 18?
 
Ok. First i'm pretty sure it's against the law to show pRon to minors, right? That's why you have to click the agree button that says you are 18 years or older to get into most pRon sites and that's why all movies with some animal photographsagraphic material are rated R, or X (except Titanic apparently).
But this is my question, If a parent can't whip out a penthouse and show their kid pRon, wouldn't it also be against the law for a parent to take their kid to an 'R' rated movie that has sex scenes or nudity in it? I don't see much difference and the whole should parents be charged with negligence for overweight kids brought this to mind. Just wanted your opinions,
is it wrong/against the law/the same thing as showing the kid a penthouse to take them to a 'r' rated movie with explicit scenes?
or
No.

LittlePound 05-31-2006 09:57 PM

crap, i tried to add a poll before i posted it and it messed up and posted it w/o it, now when i go to edit it won't let me add one. Is there any way around that?

Reaganista 05-31-2006 10:09 PM

[QUOTE]Ok. First i'm pretty sure it's against the law to show pRon to minors, right?[/QUOTE]

well actually COPA has been declared unconstitutional twice now, so unless you live in a state that passed it's own version of COPA it's only illegal to sell internet porn to minors.

[QUOTE] That's why you have to click the agree button that says you are 18 years or older to get into most pRon sites and that's why all movies with some animal photographsagraphic material are rated R, or X (except Titanic apparently).[/QUOTE]

Kate Winslett's titty isn't porn

[QUOTE]
But this is my question, If a parent can't whip out a penthouse and show their kid pRon,[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's specifically illegal.

[QUOTE] wouldn't it also be against the law for a parent to take their kid to an 'R' rated movie that has sex scenes or nudity in it?[/QUOTE]
I think you meant shouldn't, as it's certainly not illegal right now.

and no, of course it shouldn't be.

Danish 05-31-2006 10:15 PM

[QUOTE=The Tway]Kate Winslett's titty isn't animal photographs[/QUOTE]

I think animal photograph is Pitspeak for po[size=2]r[/size]no.

BludgeonySteve 05-31-2006 10:36 PM

Why is everything 18? Half of all kids have had sex by the time they're 18 (I don't know how accurate that statistic is but it's a good guess). 15 should be the age limit for pron if there's going to be any age limit at all.

LittlePound 05-31-2006 10:45 PM

i said 18 bc that's when you're legally an adult in the US

TheOpethAffinity 06-01-2006 01:12 AM

wtf is wrong with a little tits and a$s? does it make you a serial killer? you can make a gory as$ movie where people get their intestines ripped from their stomachs, and nobody will mind but if you put in a little sex, your movie will be banned and people will cry foul....

(*The Noonward Race*) 06-01-2006 01:19 AM

[QUOTE=Danish]I think animal photograph is Pitspeak for po[size=2]r[/size]no.[/QUOTE]MX swear filter.

Berner 06-01-2006 01:46 AM

[QUOTE=TheOpethAffinity]wtf is wrong with a little tits and a$s? does it make you a serial killer? you can make a gory as$ movie where people get their intestines ripped from their stomachs, and nobody will mind but if you put in a little sex, your movie will be banned and people will cry foul....[/QUOTE]
Two words: Moral Majority. Violence is ok as long as no one is swearing or having sex in a movie.

Iscariot 06-01-2006 01:52 AM

Threadstarter can't differentiate between porn and nudity, apparently.

Most movies anymore are rated R due to excessive violence. Violence drives soccer moms insane, hence the R rating. Even if there is a little nudity, you're not going to an R-rated movie to see half an hour of in-and-out action, so no, it shouldn't be illegal to accompany a minor to an R-rated movie.

The_Passenger 06-01-2006 02:03 AM

I always thought that the "R" rating was the US equivalent to an "18" in the UK. Guess I was wrong. But like others in this thread have said, I think it should be up to the parents. Some people would be perfectly ready to see some nudity well before they're 18.

LittlePound 06-01-2006 07:51 AM

[QUOTE=Iscariot]Threadstarter can't differentiate between porn and nudity, apparently.

Most movies anymore are rated R due to excessive violence. Violence drives soccer moms insane, hence the R rating. Even if there is a little nudity, you're not going to an R-rated movie to see half an hour of in-and-out action, so no, it shouldn't be illegal to accompany a minor to an R-rated movie.[/QUOTE]
you still have to claim to be 18 to get into even most professional soft core porn sites....so....what's the difference there?
[QUOTE=The_Passenger]I always thought that the "R" rating was the US equivalent to an "18" in the UK. Guess I was wrong. But like others in this thread have said, I think it should be up to the parents. Some people would be perfectly ready to see some nudity well before they're 18.[/QUOTE]
and hte US rating of 'r' is for 17 and older. And even if it was 18, the question still applies if the parents decide to buy their kids the tickets to the 'r' rated movie.

br3ad_man 06-01-2006 08:07 AM

In Australia, it is illegal for a parent to take a child to an R rated movie. However, we have an MA rating that is closer to your R rating in the US. You have to be 15 to see MA films. Only some of the more offensive films over here are rated R. Some examples would be [i]Pulp Fiction[/i], [i]City of God[/i], [i]Boogie Nights[/i] and [i]Eyes Wide Shut[/i].

Like Sylvia, I think it should be up to the parent and the restriction should apply for unaccompanied minors.

Stevie 06-01-2006 08:11 AM

here you can have sex 2 years before you can watch it.

denboy 06-01-2006 08:31 AM

Here they air pron on public broadcasted tv....

Dinosawesome 06-01-2006 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=Stevie]here you can have sex 2 years before you can watch it.[/QUOTE]
The cops stand there and make sure you don't remove any clothes though... right?

EinzingerIsGod 06-01-2006 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=Stevie]here you can have sex 2 years before you can watch it.[/QUOTE]

And we can legally kill three years before we can legally have a taste of alcohol.

coheneran 06-01-2006 10:44 AM

[QUOTE=TheOpethAffinity]wtf is wrong with a little tits and a$s? does it make you a serial killer? you can make a gory as$ movie where people get their intestines ripped from their stomachs, and nobody will mind but if you put in a little sex, your movie will be banned and people will cry foul....[/QUOTE]

Watch the p0rn movie Re-Penetrator 2, and you will see what's wrong with a gory arse movie. I still shudder. Zombie sex is wrong, plain wrong!

In Israel, a kid can go into any movie apart from serious "blue movies" that are purely wank material, like Debbie Does Dallas (awesome flic by the way), the Paris Hilton Video (I've seen better p0rn on the Disney Channel), Animal Hospital etc..

lfantwister 06-01-2006 11:01 AM

[QUOTE]Like Sylvia, I think it should be up to the parent and the restriction should apply for unaccompanied minors.[/QUOTE]

theres really no point. P0rn is so easily accesible that this restriction is pointless. If you really want to see that movie you can just get it on your computer, where they dont check for ID.

thedeadwalk! 06-01-2006 11:20 AM

The rule is fine now, it's just enforcement that's not. Basically it's up to the theater to enforce, and if I remember correctly there aren't any laws that they're breaking by not doing so.

I'd much rather support legislation kicking out noisy people.

[QUOTE=EinzingerIsGod]And we can legally kill three years before we can legally have a taste of alcohol.[/QUOTE]
They used to be able to until the 80s, and in some instances still can today.

EinzingerIsGod 06-01-2006 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=thedeadwalk!]They used to be able to until the 80s, and in some instances still can today.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I'm just pointing out that there are alot of laws in existence here in the states that don't make much sense when you break them down.

Iskandar 06-01-2006 11:49 AM

I haven't even read the thread but I can say that I'm opposed to any age laws for movies.

Reaganista 06-01-2006 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=Danish]I think animal photograph is Pitspeak for po[size=2]r[/size]no.[/QUOTE]

actually it's the swear filter

and her titty isn't por[SIZE="7"]n[/SIZE]o

****ing is p[SIZE="7"][FONT="Fixedsys"]o[/FONT][/SIZE]rno

peeted 06-01-2006 02:10 PM

hmm. i think age restrictions should be more of a general guideline, not to be so strictley enforced. there not that strict any way but still. the types of people who are going to be negativley effected by films that would be rated r probibly need help any way.

LittlePound 06-01-2006 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=The Tway]actually it's the swear filter

and her titty isn't por[SIZE="7"]n[/SIZE]o

****ing is p[SIZE="7"][FONT="Fixedsys"]o[/FONT][/SIZE]rno[/QUOTE]
not necesarily. Pron has just become more hardcore in the present times. It' used to be viewing a girl partially naked, with maybe just her shirt off or etc. was pron. It's just as pRon and grown more acceptable it's gotten more hardcore.

MAthiAS 06-01-2006 09:49 PM

I'm pretty sure that movie ratings don't have any real requirements under the law. That is, theaters can let people in under 18 (to R rated movies) if they want to and its not illegal. I learned of this a year ago so it could be different now, or I'm just incorrect.

LittlePound 06-01-2006 09:54 PM

it's not illegal for hte movie theaters to let them in, bcuz if it was it would also be illegal for parents to take them. But, most movie theaters don't want to be held liable by the parents when their child sees a movie that the parents didn't think was appropriate which is why most theatre's enforce that you have to
a. Be over 17 to by your ticket
b. Have someone over 17 by your ticket for you
or c. Have a parent/gaurdian with you in the theatre.

Jharaski 06-01-2006 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=LittlePound]it's not illegal for hte movie theaters to let them in, bcuz if it was it would also be illegal for parents to take them. But, most movie theaters don't want to be held liable by the parents when their child sees a movie that the parents didn't think was appropriate which is why most theatre's enforce that you have to
a. Be over 17 to by your ticket
b. Have someone over 17 by your ticket for you
or c. Have a parent/gaurdian with you in the theatre.[/QUOTE]

I don't see your point. Hardcore pr0n is genital focused. Titanic did not have Kate's under region with Leo's going inside it. Sure, it was sexy to 12 year old boys, but that's not what the intention was.

PO[font=2]RN[/font] ISN'T IN R RATED MOVIES. Otherwise, it's a PO[font=2]RN[/font]O not an R rated movie. What in the world would be the point of a 30 second fully visible sex scene in an action or drama movie, or whatever? Because if there ever was such a movie, the producer should be shot. Anything with actual sex in it is a po[font=2]rn[/font]o, is almost entirely comprised of sex (sometimes a cheesy plot is added, like a woman who has sex with every police officer investigating her husband's murder). One more thing. They are not shown in American movie theaters. They do not have R ratings.

Please. Learn the difference between a movie with boobies shown and/or sexy things going on than actually showing the sex itself.

LittlePound 06-01-2006 10:41 PM

i adressed that though it may not be considered pRon as of present times, at one point it was considered pRon to just see a little bit of breat or something of the sort. I don't see why you feel the need to try to blow up on me, as of this far in the thread i haven't even stated my opinion on which i think it is, for all you know i could be completely against and just playing devils advocate some what

Jharaski 06-01-2006 10:44 PM

[QUOTE=LittlePound]i adressed that though it may not be considered pRon as of present times, at one point it was considered pRon to just see a little bit of breat or something of the sort. I don't see why you feel the need to try to blow up on me, as of this far in the thread i haven't even stated my opinion on which i think it is, for all you know i could be completely against and just playing devils advocate some what[/QUOTE]

Read what you write before posting then. Seriously.


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