Crossed Out

[QUOTE=raus;14143236]I didn't say fast and/or thrash, I said fast and thrashy. Like Eaten Alive, Mobile Terror Unit, and probably more bands you listed.

You don't know the difference, because you called Eaten Alive power violence. That's f[FONT="Verdana"]u[/FONT]cking ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

You should spend more time trying to make some friends than trying to convince me that Eaten Alive and Mobile Terror Unit aren't PV.

[QUOTE=IgniteYourAvail;14143265]Crossed Out[/QUOTE]

Rule.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14143340]You should spend more time trying to make some friends than trying to convince me that Eaten Alive and Mobile Terror Unit aren't PV.[/QUOTE]

Mobile Terror Unit are most definately Powerviolence. Eaten Alive, hmm, not too sure i'd classify them as powerviolence, that's definately up for discussion. raus brings up a valid point there methinks.

Crossed Out definately do rule, amazing how they're so popular, yet only played 13 (or 19, can't remember :upset:) shows. :thumb:

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14143340]You should spend more time trying to make some friends than trying to convince me that Eaten Alive and Mobile Terror Unit aren't PV.[/QUOTE]I've got plenty. Maybe you should spend more time trying to get your life together than listeing to s[FONT="Verdana"]hit[/FONT]ty music.

This thread got dumb fast.

[QUOTE=raus;14143633]I've got plenty. Maybe you should spend more time trying to get your life together than listeing to s[FONT="Verdana"]hit[/FONT]ty music.[/QUOTE]

Go listen to Blink, f[I]a[/I]ggot.

[QUOTE=DaveToopes;14143653]This thread got dumb fast.[/QUOTE]

Not my fault. Niko had to come in here with his superior "knowledge" and pretend like he knows everything.

Guys, let's try to make this thread work. From now on, I'll just ignore whatever Diapers (my new nickname for Niko) says.

ahaha Diapers.

He'll probably defend himself by saying I'm a crackhead or whatever. You should rep me for giving him such a suiting nickname.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14144111]He'll probably defend himself by saying I'm a crackhead or whatever. You should rep me for giving him such a suiting nickname.[/QUOTE]

No, but I agree with Niko.

You've got no clue about PV.

I've got a clue about what PV is. I got all the clues.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;14144118]No, but I agree with Niko.

You've got no clue about PV.[/QUOTE]

LOL, hey thanks for the rep. I like how it just said "k."

No. Dude, PV isn't thrashy and fast. You're wrong.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;14144134]No. Dude, PV isn't thrashy and fast. You're wrong.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I like you, you're funny.

Sadly, Niko is right.

Dude, Justin, you need to lighten up and just accept the fact that you're wrong in this case. Fast hardcore doesn't necessarily mean it's power violence. Just because Niko gives you and a lot of other people s[FONT="Verdana"]h[/FONT]it over little things doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about at times. In this case, he is right.

What am I wrong about?

Look, powerviolence is basically limited to less than 10 bands, most of which feature in the song "H.S.M.P." as the guy said earlier. They also are only bands around during the late 80s until about 1991. At least formed by 1991 anyway.

Yeah, it wasn't a genre as much as a group of bands using a similar term to bind them all. Had they not called themselves power violence, people would've probably just called them fast hardcore bands. So unless referring to those who were actually included in that group of OG PV bands, then just say fast hardcore or something similar, but it ain't PV.

Fast hardcore is ridiculously retarded.

Almost as stupid as melodic hardcore.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;14144641]Fast hardcore is ridiculously retarded.

Almost as stupid as melodic hardcore.[/QUOTE]
...just another way to differentiate between bands.

I mean, in the end, it's all just hardcore, but for those who want to be able to imagine a particular sound through some words, than that's where Fast/Melodic/etc Hardcore comes in.

[QUOTE=Excursions;14144471]Look, powerviolence is basically limited to less than 10 bands, most of which feature in the song "H.S.M.P." as the guy said earlier. They also are only bands around during the late 80s until about 1991.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

[QUOTE=Feel The Darkness;14144713]...just another way to differentiate between bands.

I mean, in the end, it's all just hardcore, but for those who want to be able to imagine a particular sound through some words, than that's where Fast/Melodic/etc Hardcore comes in.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but if a band was obviously just jacking a previous scene and remaking the type of music of the "power violence" scene. You'd refer to them as power violence.

It is like bands being called as "emo" during revolution summer. Just because they were called that then, doesn't mean they're the only emo bands. If someone rips them off, then they're associated with that genre.

I mean, I think most of the bands Retired is listing suck, but you can't deny they're obviously drawing alot from bands like Spazz, MITB, etc.

"Power violence is dead. Anyone claiming the 'power violence' description for their own is cancer." - Eric Wood

[QUOTE=Excursions;14144849]"Power violence is dead. Anyone claiming the 'power violence' description for their own is cancer." - Eric Wood[/QUOTE]

Ah. Well, at least we know Eric Wood is a f[I]a[/I]ggot now.

This thread can be handled by the In Grind We Crust thread guys.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;14144817]Yeah, but if a band was obviously just jacking a previous scene and remaking the type of music of the "power violence" scene. You'd refer to them as power violence.

It is like bands being called as "emo" during revolution summer. Just because they were called that then, doesn't mean they're the only emo bands. If someone rips them off, then they're associated with that genre.

I mean, I think most of the bands Retired is listing suck, but you can't deny they're obviously drawing alot from bands like Spazz, MITB, etc.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, there was never really an established power violence scene, it was just a label that certain bands attached to their music as, if i recall, some sort of joke. I don't recall the actual reason for the name, but overall, it wasn't a genre, it wasn't its own scene, it was a group of hardcore bands calling themselves something else.

[QUOTE=Feel The Darkness;14144923]The thing is, there was never really an established power violence scene, it was just a label that certain bands attached to their music as, if i recall, some sort of joke. I don't recall the actual reason for the name, but overall, it wasn't a genre, it wasn't its own scene, it was a group of hardcore bands calling themselves something else.[/QUOTE]

Well by that nature the bands that are power violence shouldn't even be labeled as power violence. You can't have a group of bands that embody a genre but are only solely representative of it. That wouldn't make any sense. I guess this is kind of what you are saying though, correct?